Mini Normal 1954: Iambic Tetramafia: Endgame

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hey guys

What’s shaking?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I’ll be catching up shortly.

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etl I assume we all missed it for the same reason you did but it looks like a good thing to make them squirm

VOTE: ucv

Maybe it's my inner awkward but I don't see that as being forced moreso than overly geeky

Stating your voting for pressure immediately reduces any chance of creating it to zero.

I also don’t think you can make that assessment about Awoo unless you know them personally. The latter part of being a little late to the game reads as trying to come off more humorous to me than anything.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

JINGLE. WICKED. YALL. IVE LEGIT FOUND THE FIRST REAL SCUM. Check Two's tone in this game: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72708
other town games readily available as well.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

VOTE: twoinamillion

I don’t get it. Where’s the analysis? Why aren’t you providing quotes from that game to point out these tonal differences? Why does context seem to not be taken into account? Hard to acknowledge this meta case without any of that

[Lil Uzi Vert]

General question, how often making a dumb move like self voting in RVS is an actual scumtell as opposed to a weird/noob playstyle tell?

PEDIT:

You're acting like an arrogant "veteran" who thinks they can push new people around and everyone will just sheep them. Trust me that will not be the case.

Close, but not quite a real point. ETL, your reasoning has been weak as hell so far on every vote you've made. What I've seen from you so far is just a string of easy to make votes that you can later point to as "aggressive townplay" as scum. What is your motivation for this? More importantly, if you are town, what have you learned from this chain of votes?

PEDIT: I cant post because everyone keeps posting, literally unplayable

I don't see anything wrong with being aggressive. I have a history in my games of being town, and being town read, so I know what I need to do to catch scum. There is no downside to being aggressive early unless you are scum.

This is an outright lie. You’re often seen as extremely scummy on Day 1 from my experience with you and what I’ve heard.

Sorry for being late.
Skitter might be scum becauae every single game we have together is her as scum.
Dunk seems a bit off this game. Illpost more thoughts later

Could you go a bit more in detail on your experince with Dunk?

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Oh nice, only one page of ETL accumulated while I slept? This game isn't going to be as hard to read as I thought. I liked ETL's 106, it feels honest.

I think someone asked why I was voting taiho? One of the people I've got my eye on. I don't like his opening string and I want to see where he goes now that we're game on. I cannot speak for 2mil or his vote.

Apparently I should've voted for you to be townread by you too lol

Don't like this particularly, it got my attention.

DD's string this game has been naked early reads. I don't know how easy it is to fake something like that, but ultimately I TR it since he looks like he's having fun.

91 town.

[a post by 2iam]

is all sorts of ick. Why do you want to form a double wagon on someone who still hasn't posted? Why is this a good thing (you're a fan of it?) and what info would you get out of it? And why on Fykus in particular, out of everyone who only had one vote on them at the time?

Also, I'm feeling like votes on Two are kinda opportunistic/easy? Like, he's blatantly new, and awkward and bad does not necessarily mean scum. I kinda feel like he's an easy place for scum to go at that point (ie I'm talking about Taiho's vote on Two). I vaguely feel the same way about UC.

Fence sitting detected. VOTE: skitter30 Like what, he's all sorts of ick, but it's too easy to vote for him? Usually when I (hear this/have done it in the past myself as scum), it's scum worrying about whether or not their target is too "lynchbait-ey" to vote for. Sometimes they make it real obvious and slip the word lynchbait into their post. Since I just read two conflicting statements, what do you think of TIM?

I’m not a woman but I don’t think ick is always used to describe something that is scummy. Could mean bad, could mean gross. I think Skitter was attempting to understand where 2Milli was coming from and seeing if the thought process if any comes from town or scum.

I also don’t think you can accuse her of fence sitting here as she hasn’t been unwilling to give an opinion on 2Milli for an extended period of time.

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Glad we can agree on 2000000 though.

If you agree, show me with your vote. Otherwise, I would greatly appreciate some insight to your current skitter vote.

p-edit: UCV, I have a full time job and go to school full time, so that's really no excuse to come in here and flat out say you have no intention of even reading what we're all talking about, and yet have the nerve to think you'd be able to just jump in and have anything worthwhile to add to the conversation that's been going on for the last few pages... I've been able to contribute. It's 5 pages, not 50.

I don't have any obligation to let you slide for that, so, do what you will but don't expect me to be ok with you being lazy on page fucking 7.

Good. You’re active and care. Safe it for post-game.

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OHHH MY GODDDD

Why do these people even sign up to this site? I honestly don't understand it at all. They don't wanna play so why do they waste everyone's time and steal a player slot from someone who would actually contribute to the enjoyment of the game...

Dude, is this your first game in a while? Incase you haven’t notice, site meta has changed and complaining about it here does no one any good. Either shut up or replace out.

I've actually never seen formatting like that. I'm impressed and repulsed.

I love how ESL (especially the lies) has so far tried to be the town leader or something. He has been drawing attention to everyone, but it almost as if he is trying to avoid bringing attention to himself! He has very ineffective scum hunting tactics, and it makes me think he is scum!

Why is this AI? Do you think this isn’t in her personality to assume the role of town leader? If so, why? Walk me through this.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

stop townreading me it makes me less engaged
everyone that townreads me is locktown though

Find it hard to believe scum say this.

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VOTE: twoinamillion

that's a scumclaim if ever i saw one.

why claim at this point? a bit of pressure from awoo and suddenly it's time to claim?

nope.

Why does he claim neighborizor as scum? I think scum are more likely claim a stronger role such as cop or doctor in order to try to live longer or draw a counterclaim.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

[CONSPIRACY THEORY] Hear me out on this, since I know a people have this slot as null - town and I don't agree with that at all:

My initial vote on taiho was because of his opening. I always scumread super-meta RVS posts like *insert joke here*, since they are by nature defensive instead of aggressive. In addition, they also read as over thought out by nature.

Spoiler: ?

If you really wanted to read why, here is why:

What did he mean by this? It's not easy to vote someone based off of something so meta, and for that reason I call it a defensive vote. Defensive since it discourages votes from coming your way as opposed to a standard offensive rvs post such as "I don't like your avatar".

But we're not in RVS anymore, and I get that, and my attention has shifted elsewhere. Even so, unfunny meta posts like that may be only indicative of humor style and played without a second thought. But here is the kicker:

:3 lately i've been trying to catch scum from their first vote, reading past game's rvs votes and afterward looking at the spoilers to check if i've been right.

This confirms my suspicions, you have put thought into your rvs vote. Meaning as scum, you would have been worried about your opening vote, and making it more likely you'd post something like you did.

-- So what is the reason people are townreading this again? I want to hear it especially from you, ETL, since I recall you having that read.


BTW: wicked / two SVS interaction not impossible here.

Explain this to me like I’m 5. I don’t get it.

hey dunk, you town? I think you might be town.

I'm iffy on skitter, but maybe its just superstition, im 80% certain that iron is scum though. That whole "im not gonna read anything" post and then the whole lack of anything after that is basically just scum saying im gonna lurk the entire game, deal with it. I think I was leaning town on tiam yesterday when i caught up while at the drs, but i cant really remember now. I think im town leaning jingle but he seems like a player you cant get a proper read on until later in the game. Plus hes apparently a town pr, though there could be a chance hes actually a mafia encryptor, but based on his actions thus far thats probably only a slight chance.

Ill keep thinking on it and post a bit more later if any of my thoughts from yesterday return to me.

How is lurking and not planning to do anything an effective strategy as scum? Not being present doesn’t help him control the game state or push mislynches. Just potentially puts a big target on his back if town start finding each other and forming a block.

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I think Awoo is town. Don't agree with his taiho thoughts, but I see where he's coming from. In general, it feels like he's genuinely trying to figure things out.

Do you understand where’s he’s coming from Taiho? It read like nonsense to me.

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VOTE: ucvoyager

what is this

Reading is necessary for town to win games. Not wanting to read is an excuse for mafia to be lazy and get away with it.

How about trying to get everyone to request for the mod to replace players you basically want to policy lynch instead?

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I was voting tiaho, she started hard lurking. I didn't want to have my vote sit on the same person the whole day, so I switched to another read.

This doesn’t make sense. You are scum reading Skitter and her wagon has more traction. Low content posters or lurkers aren’t going to get lynched unless a game is in a serious state of apathy or there’s a guilty on one of them. Why did you think moving your vote would do anything at all?

All 3 are scumreads so I really don't need a reason to vote for one over the other. I just prefer to be voting for someone when making a case on them normally.

I highly doubt you scum read them all equally and even if you do, you always go with what seems to be more likely to happen.

Just for the record, see this game where I was town, was mislynched day 1, and the town lost.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72770

Town loss that game because they didn’t lynch Mulch Day 2 and Danny instantly voted in LYLO. Stop lying.

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woah hold on a sec

"I was endgamed as town"

"town won"

hooooold on a sec

You literally can’t make this up

My point is this seems like a policy lynch and I'm saying thats a bad idea. I have a lot to contribute.

How can you say this given your reasoning for voting Taiho and UCV?

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Tell them im town. Lol.

I’m finding this hard to believe

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm town. Lol.

We've been pretty stalled out with me wanting lurker slots to post more, 2 a hair's breadth from the noose, 2 slots other than yours which have done nothing much to be read on, and at least one more with subpar content. You're functionally replacing into a fresh slot (called it, btw), and there are a bunch of people I've questions of who have not yet responded.

We've had no significant motion or pushing since the point where Skitters and 2 were at L-2 at the same time. Other than me, we've had no serious wagons other than those two. I'm a basically universal townread.

I've hardclaimed that my death does something to or for all non-mafia-factional PT's (which I believe means multiple non mafia factional pts or something powerful like masons, friendly neighborizer or weak neighborizer in addition to some other PT based roles). 2 has claimed neighborizer, and I'm specifically not bringing up that that could be a partial claim which is the big impetus behind wanting to sort him tomorrow.

And again. I away!

Hi Jingle!

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Hi Luv!

SKITTER:

The only thing I'm learning from this 1v1 is that we are both good at misinterpreting each other's posts. I'm burned out on confronting you directly, and nitpicking over little points isn't going to help me develop my reads. Take that however you will.

Meh, fair. I can argue minutia for like forever, but I get that it can be annoying, so I'll drop it if you want me to; I'll revisit after a flip.

So let's talk about something else instead. Who are your top two lynches today?

jic i got a prod.....

i honestly am having a hard time following the game. can someone fill me in with a breif and to the point summary of what has happened so far....

A wagon developed on Two, I didn't like the reasoning people were using, a wagon developed on me, Two claimed, and the wagon on Two is still a thing and most people seem kinda resigned to his lynch.

What do you think about a Two lynch? Do you have any scumreads other than ETL? Any townreads?

My reads haven't changed since you've opened up. I don't think they will.

Tbh, I kinda feel like the game has kinda stagnated, and that people are kinda around waiting for *something* to happen to affirm the Two lynch, or for some new wagon to develop, but nothing's really *happening*. Like, I look at the game, and I don't really have anything to say cuz nothing really happened since the last time I was here. I'm hoping a new perspective will serve as the impetus for discussion.

Hi Skitter!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: TWOINAMILLION

Here's your hammer. If this flip makes me look bad at least I can say that I lynched scum.

Is this really a hammer? Why? I didn’t even catch-up before this and there were calls from several players for more content.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Wicked, nice tetrameter lol

Fykus, what do you currently think about Ironstove?

Why did you ask Fykus specifically as opposed to everyone?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

That's quite a long explanation of reason to hammer. Getting defensive much eh awoo. hmm.

What’s wrong with being defensive?

Feels like you should’ve voted for Awoo here.

Did you read my post or are you making shit up?

Huh? How is she making anything up?

VOTE: taiho

Do something to convince me you're town and I'll move my vote.

467 --- taiho posts an rvs vote that reeks of being overthought. Later says "I like to catch scum based on thier first vote", confirming my suspicions. Why am I going back that far? It's pretty much all the posts from that lurking slot which is being townread for no reason. No, it is not a strong read.

^ copypaste for LUV

This is NAI. Both alignments can put thought into their entrance because of self-awareness. Both can also do it in order to garner specific reactions. I don’t like it how feels like you’re clinging desperately to your very weak Taiho read.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have a result on dunkerdoodles

Well, out with it!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

skitter, flubber is absolutely, 100% confirmed scum right now.

not yet

he's making shit up. no actual town role with loyal modifier would behave this way if he had a true guilty.

This.

Flubber not taking into consideration that Dunk could be a commuter or a miller, has an ascetic modifier, or that he could’ve been role blocked is really bad.

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Also, ETL, get your head out of your ass. Why does flubbs fakeclaim not a hard guilty with almost no pressure on him. He’s 90% town 10% insane. And in either case he lives at least one more dayphase

Why does he vote and then out he has a result? There’s no town motivation to do so as it just creates unnecessary wine in front of me. I expect town to hold that result to there chest and continue to observe and sort Dunk in order to give more weight to play over role.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

"why is flubber trying to incite reactions from dunkerdoodles. If he was town he would be trying to sort dunkerdoodles"

Can you tell me what you were looking for? Can you tell me what’s a town reaction to you voting him and then saying you have a result on him?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Flubber not taking into consideration that Dunk could be a commuter or a miller, has an ascetic modifier, or that he could’ve been role blocked is really bad.

:Thorface:



What the fuck even is this? This is 10x worse than ETL's reaction. This is reaching for a reason to disbelieve Flubber without even considering his claim.

Flubber: I have a result on DD.
DD: I think Flubber is a loyal cop.
Flubber: I'm not going to fullclaim.
ETL: This isn't how loyal town responds.
LUV: The fact that flubbs isn't even considering alternatives to the guilty is really bad.

First, both ETL and LUV have just jumped onto the explanation that Flubbs is a loyal cop and are discrediting his claim solely on that basis, WHEN HE DIDN'T EVEN BRING THAT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.

DD's rolefishing is terribad. ETL jumping onto it is either scum or a bad case of confbiasing. LUV dropping a legitimate (if mediocre) line of questioning to pile on is the scummiest piece of shitposting in the thread.

Second, there are a plethora of roles that are both explicitly normal and have a reason for which there might be a false positive. Pouncing on one and then claiming Flubber is scum for not considering why it might be a false positive is presupposing information, which is decidedly not a town trait, especially from someone who was not even scumreading Flubbs prior to this AFAICT.

Third, LUV's argument is in itself a strawman. Flubber IS provably looking for cases why he would have a fake guilty. It's pretty much the cornerstone of the gambit he's running.

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

And, furthermore, the correct response to this is not "Flubber I demand your fullclaim right now" but "Dunkerdoodles, why would anyone reasonably get a false positive investigation on you".

If DD fails to answer, I'll post a list of roles for which flubbs play is not only acceptable, but arguably optimal.

I could ask you the same thing in regards to you voting for me Jingle

I assumed he’s a cop with a modifier based on 582 due to him previously being hounded by Skitter on whether he’s loyal or not. I didn’t consider a vanilla cop or a neapolitan. Or even something really non-standard like a private thread cop but I think my current gripe still applies no matter how you slice it.

So as well know, Flubber appeared to go into today voting someone he believes to be guilty based on him immediately voting Dunk and then stating he has a result on him. I later find out he was not taking his result as a hard guilty but was considering how he could’ve gotten a false guilty and was trying to sort Dunk by reaction testing. My gripe before was that he voted assuming it was a guilty which is why I brought up a few ways in which it could’ve been a false guilty. I wasn’t discrediting him. I was giving my opinion on the information that I had processed. I felt it was bad play to come off the way he did.

My gripe now is that he cannot or won’t tell me what reaction was he looking for. He also seems to expect that someone wouldn’t react in the way Dunk has to someone voting them, claiming they may have a guilty on them, and being vague about how they reached such conclusion. That to me reads like hiding behind gambits and reaction testing in order to get away with scummy behavior. I don’t see how town handles the result the way he did but I don’t see why scum runs the gambit. So I guess I’m confused as to why it feels like he’s being read as likely town by you when I feel he should be null.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don’t get it. If you didn’t know what you were looking for, why can’t Dunk’s reaction come from town?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I can understand if you provided town and scum reactions to how you handled your result but you didn’t which leads me to believe your reaction testing had no purpose.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

UZI -- I'm going to ask you the same thing I asked DD. Do you think flub is scum faking, or town?

Neither. He should be at null.

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Oh, LUV to answer your question

Literally right after you asked how I was scum hunting dunkerdoodles I answered your question in 617. You preceded to keep repeating yourself after this for some reason. I'm deciding whether or not it's because you like hearing yourself talk or you're scum.

I can only think of one way your accusation on me isn't self contradictory, but the idea that I can have some sort of checklist of what scum and town do after I leave a strange vote on them is kinda dumb. I really think I'm misunderstanding what you're saying in light of that.

Pedit: that's a shit threat based on a shit read and for some reason I'm really not surprised

You know as well I do that doesn’t answer my question. It’s a sassy response because you cannot actually answer the question.

I’ve repeated it because you seem unaware of how you’ve came off and you’re not explaining why his reaction can’t come from town or what reaction what have caused you take your foot off the gas. You decided to reaction test by voting Dunk and outting that you have a result on him. You then acted vague for a bit afterwards. Town can and will react irrationally and negatively to that out of annoyance and paranoia.

I just think that if you’re testing someone, you should know how you’re trying to achieve your result and what you’re looking for. It’s moot now since no one seems to be understanding what I’m saying but I just feel Day 2 would’ve been going a lot more productive had you not decided to do this. There is a lot of confusion in the air and it’s distracting.

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him previously being hounded by Skitter on whether he’s loyal or not.

Where did this happen?

From 558 to like 575

Lot less than I remember

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Jingle you're a doublevoter now?

Tunneled and wrong sadly

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Good luck fishing.

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What's happening Skitter? I'm confused now.

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Both Fykus and UCV's votes read like voting due to apathy. Not in the sense that the game has been inactive but in the sense that this is topic is too big of a distraction to ignore. The claim is really all we've talked about all day and it seems like it's going to prevent attempts to sort or really game solve.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Ah. I get it now Skitter. That's something. Wonder who reviewed this.

I think it comes from the increase in gambits attempted from both alignments and the increase in instant gratification.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yeah being initially confused at first and wanting to know why it seemed like you were being town read definitely contributed. I've moved on now.

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You claimed.

You fucked up. I will move on if I want to

[Lil Uzi Vert]

That's fine.

I'll watch town lose in MYLO/LYLO tomorrow because someone who has no idea what they're doing when it comes to reaction testing, decided to do so

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You can still do both of those things without outing your result and acting vague about what you possibly are. I've done it before and I've seen it done plenty. It's called pressuring and sorting based on in-game content, not mechanics.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Or should I say outting that you have a result.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Is this based on policy?

I also didn't feed into anything. I didn't agree with you voting Dunk without having a hard gulity and then I didn't understand how you can judge others reactions without knowing what you were looking for.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The claim is really all we've talked about all day and it seems like it's going to prevent attempts to sort or really game solve.

And have you gotten any useful reads out of this mess?

I've gotten nothing.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I didn't say to ignore it. I'm saying scum read a player for what he does in-game and not based on mechanics unless you specifically receive a result that says a player does not share the same alignment as you. Ask Dunk about what players have said and done, ask him about the later stages of 2Milli's wagon, ask him what he thinks Wicked was night killed, etc. Just don't come out and state you have a result, be vauge about it, and be surprised everyone is not reacting like a robot.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I can understand if he did those things are similar ones and then outed his result based on having sufficient reasons to not like how Dunk responded but he didn't.

You get me?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I do believe in it but as I said, it doesn't seem like I'm being understood.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Also please post which threads I've gone on to go that my play style is the correct way because I'm pretty sure I haven't.

Did I do it in that game you scum slipped?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You said threads but can only site one. Why lie to justify your policy push?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Could you be any more pedantic

Also I'm not pushing you as policy

How am I being pedantic? If it was so minuscule, you wouldn't have repeated the remark.

Good. What are you pushing me on?

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LUV, the problem I'm having is that you pushed a claimed investigative for acting like he had a hard guilty while ignoring the possibility of miller/commuter/etc when he literally said he might have a false positive. You were pushing him for treating a hard guilty weird after he said wasn't treating it like a hard guilty.

And the reasoning was suspiciously similar to ETL's, so it felt like you were trying to piggyback off of ETL's push to push Flubber.

I'm also not sure when this turned into a policy lynch discussion?

I did push him for that and then I realized I misunderstood, then I pushed him for reaction testing without knowing what he was looking for, and now I've been done for bit.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I can't tell you when exactly I noticed I had gotten things mixed up and realize he had claimed as a reaction test in order to sort Dunk but I did.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I never said I was fine with it at all?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Where does that say I'm fine with him looking into their reactions?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It's scummy behavior to not know what you were exactly looking for with a reaction test as well as being surprised people are reacting the way they're and the game is in the state that it's in because of it.

And if that's the case, this is a play style difference.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have an issue with claiming yes but claiming the result isn't AI despite the wine in front of me it does create. Not being able to tell me how anyone was suppose to react to it is scummy in my opinion.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

That's not me saying I'm fine with it. I'm saying what I would've accepted him doing before a claim.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm referring to the irrational behavior from Dunk he seemed to have a problem with.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Oh I get it now.

No he did not do any of those things Jingle. What are you reading?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Dunk didn't even post anything before he posted he had a result?

So not posting is what caused him to out?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have moved on from it.

I'm the leading wagon and being voted because of what I'm trying to move on because people keep asking me about it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Nice try though.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I guess you missed 616 which lead me to having that gripe.

I don't think anyone is town reading Flubber but Jingle and those who were or are don't seem to have much say so I'm not sure why you feel like I went out of my way to justify me reading him as null.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I guess you missed 616 which lead me to having that gripe.

I don't think anyone is town reading Flubber but Jingle and those who were or are scum reading him don't seem to have much say so I'm not sure why you feel like I went out of my way to justify reading him as null.

EBWOP.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Best of luck with your exams guys

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@skitter
thanks for the long post before the vla, hope everything goes well

Best of luck with your exams guys

LUV, who do you think we should lynch today?

If I knew, I’d be voting.

There just isn’t anything that is AI from any of the people that’s in you and Jingle’s scum pool. If I had to vote right now, it would probably be casted for Ironstove for his weird reasoning for voting on Fykus.

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It’s ptetty obvious.

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Who is focusing on you solely because of personal differences?

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Both of you have to walk me through that one.

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When did I say I town read you Skitter?

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@Awoo:

What bait? She’s null for me.

@Skitter:

No, it doesn’t. All it implies is that I don’t get why they are scum reading you. I could still be scum reading for my own reasons. However I have you as null.

And no I didn’t, why?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hm... We're almost out of time today. Taiho, LUV, UCV, none of the three of you are voting anyone. Why? Who are your scumreads?

Self-explanatory.

I don’t have any scum reads and been in a rut since Flubber claimed to have a result.

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@Mod: Replace me. I have a lot of things on my mind and I'm not in a really good headspace right now. Sorry