Mini Normal 1980: TwoInAMillion - The First Game(Town Win!)

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Hey guys

What’s shaking?

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Will try to catch-up by tonight. Anything I should know currently?

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Hey guys

What’s shaking?

You

Yeah I’m not gonna lie

Pretty cold in NYC!

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Will try to catch-up by tonight. Anything I should know currently?

Flavor Leaf claimed neighbor

pedit: I'm not scum seph

Prompted or unprompted?

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VOTE: Skitter

Imo he's just pointing out what the jester wannabe is doing as weird to look good. He's putting 0 pressure on the slot.

I disagree.

She seemed to be thinking out loud and I believe asked for clarification and rationale behind one of his actions. I think if she was trying to just point out weird things to look good, she would’ve also casted a vote to draw more attention to said things.

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I still think a -1 on someone you view as town is scummy.

So in your POV scum openly announce their contradictions and draw attention to themselves?

Don’t think this is far-fetched at all considering how the current site meta arguably encourages scum to attempt to get away with doing blatantly scummy things.

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Stitch, when I think of flailing, I usually think of a child throwing a tantrum, widely grasping at anything they think could even possibly help them

I haven’t seen any of that up until this point.

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I have mod conformation he is not a jester.

This isn't game related, but after how many different games we have been in together, I never realized your username was spelt srceen. I thought is was screen

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Explain how I'm flailing stitch?

You're focused entirely on your defense and nothing else.

I can buy into skitter's reaction to Flavor Leaf now that it's better explained and the reads they have are mostly reasonable (although I'd like to explain what you like about Athena because I'm iffy).

Putting someone at L-1 early can come from both alignments, it just comes down to how gutsy the voter is rather than individual playstyle.

I was fine with Seph initially but I don't like this flailing.

Just because I’m popular, you all don’t think I’m scummy? What is this madness? Scum is likely defending me somewhere.

I don't have a read on you yet. I pointed it out to Seph to try and get them to look in a different direction in hopes that they would produce something more telling. The fact that they ignored that part of my post and stayed on the defensive is something I really dislike.

What do you think of Frogger after you L-1ed him?

VOTE: Sephiroth (L-2)

What else should he have been focused on at the time? There’s motivation for either alignment to avoid being lynched so I don’t get why you have an issue with him being defensive here.

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I don't understand why people like playing with you. You're playing poorly and being a dick about it because I called you on it. Grow up.

This feels like an overreaction.

I disagree that froggy is playing poorly if you guys aren’t scum together for Seph’s potential chainsaw from the froggy.

If froggy is town, I think he’s playing well because I’m starting to lean town there. If froggy is scum, then I believe he’s also playing well because he’s setting himself up in a nice way, albeit Froggy definitely could and would fake that. Nonetheless, at the moment it is working on me.

Unvote

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I feel like skitter would be far more paranoid. I think there was feigned paranoia early wrt seph, and now it's far too comfortable of a town read.

And that's just a small part of my skitter read

Kinda like this point. It just feels sound and well-reasoned.

Also, it sounds like skitter knows UCV is town here in post 20

Huh?

Also not following 264. I also find it kinda weak. It’s just based off one game and it doesn’t seem to take into account context. Meaning her mood at the time, mindset, role, etc.

Can you point us to other town games that display the tone you’re describing?

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rather cop voyaer because he's a common scapegoat for scum to take advantage of

Do you townread the slot or just want Seph dead more?

I can’t help but read this as forced.

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I had everything fucking covered too and now it's ruined

I'm a failure

never trying alts again

Just be you man. You keep getting in your own way because you’re so worried about how you’re perceived on this site.

I have a lot of respect for regfan but that style is not for everyone and it just doesn’t work on MafiaScum.

Anyway the REASON I was doing this was just to show all the idiots on mafia discussion how easy it is to low post and that it's not some fucking magic amazing "great" and superior thing to do, and that anyone can do it, and to stop being so fucking haughty about it

This is the Mulch I know!

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#424
What are or were your thoughts on 424 Frogger? This reads like what I’d like to think is your experience with town Skitter.

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What are or were your thoughts on 424 Frogger? This reads like what I’d like to think is your experience with town Skitter.

EBWOP.

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If you’re gonna play like that then just replace out

Town dosen't deserve to get me to replace out

I'm not conforming my play to bad play here

on Mafia universe I'm townread almost every game for my play, regardless of allignment, and towns have about a 10% higher winrate there and they don't use as many power roles

It's not a coincidence

Dude, no one cares about your MafiaUniverse. They didn’t this day, and they won’t tomorrow

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You're also in some position to comment, since in both my games all you've accomplished is replacing in and immediately getting yourself lynched or very close to it in both. The whole 'I'm better than you at mafia' thing only works if you have results to back it up.

I refuse to blame my play for being lynched every game while on other sites I am townread and lynched at a normal rate and only on mafiascum am I lynched day 1 consistently. I refuse

What’s a normal lynch rate?

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Okay, I'm back and caught up. Happy New year!

I don't like that stitch came back to a wagon and didn't even bother to comment. Seph, skitter and mulch all feel town to me based on limited meta and their reactions seeming genuine. Frogger also feels town, and transcend is too good for me to read right now. Null on everyone else so I'd say as of right now stitch is my biggest scum read.

Don't want to vote yet as I want to re-read and do an ISO first.

Already you're sounding like quite the opportunist.

Not seeing it. What situation was he trying to take advantage of here?

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Your lacking bite

Not alignment indictive.

Your lacking bite

Why do I need a bite for a simple question?
Why do you feel the need to block it instead of letting it play through?

You----



Usually have snark as town

You have no snark

Therefore you are scum

Screen I find to be more mechanical than anything. What games have made you view him as someone who has a witty mannerism?

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I'm not miller

I have no idea why i claimed unless i was drunk

And also meta sucks

Especially with mulch

Disagree on not using meta to read Mulch.

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Find with either Mulch or Stitch after an updated VC.

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I have no idea what to do with Lalendra or Transcend.

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Stitch, when I think of flailing, I usually think of a child throwing a tantrum, widely grasping at anything they think could even possibly help them

I haven’t seen any of that up until this point.

Not quite sure why what I quoted didn’t show up here but I think you all know what I’m referring to

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Will try to catch-up by tonight. Anything I should know currently?

Flavor Leaf claimed neighbor

pedit: I'm not scum seph

Prompted or unprompted?

It was a little of both. I was pushing something I agreed with from my neighbor.

Can you help me get out of this rut? I hadn’t been putting a lot of my effort into this game. I shit post here this game more than usual. I’ve been scum with you, against ou, and you’ve been scum against my town. Help me out, haha.

Forgot about this.

That’s fine. However I don’t see why you needed to claim to do that. And I’m trying to get into the game myself my man

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Hi Yoshi!

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Claiming should be done when it will do the most good in my opinion.

I don’t think his claim is AI, it’s just strange the justification for it.

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VOTE: Stitch

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I rather have final reads.

Don’t care for a claim because you should always lynch based on play rather than role.

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I also don’t scum read Seph.

Wagon speed is not alignment indictive and I recall suspicion and scum reads expressed so I’m not quite understanding that point from Seph and Skitter.

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I also don’t scum read Seph.

Wagon speed is not alignment indictive and I recall suspicion and scum reads expressed so I’m not quite understanding that point from Seph and Skitter.

Why are you acting in your scum meta

I’m sorry you rolled scum

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Flavor is just ball of WIFOM right now.

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VOTE: Mulch

He didn't do anything, why not?

Maybe because that’s not AI?

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Anyway my readslist stands.

Skitter is obvious scum and scum through meta and posts, but I"m not spending the time trying to bullshit it again

Seph is being mislynched and is obvious town from posts, Frogger is obvious town,

Athena is obvious town

, Screen is probably town just through meta alone, Boon is prob town but still deciding.

IDK about the yoshi, my points stand, I've never been able to read Lalendra and UC Voyager.

Stitch is manipulative and scummy

, Skitter is obvious scum through meta, Transcend is obvious scum through meta.

Lynch those 3 and we win

Following this for now.

Lil Uzi Vert is replacing CultOfAthena

I wouldn’t do that if I were you

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If I'm a 2-shot cop and we dont end up lynching uzi today and I end up being nightkilled, uzi is scum

I wouldn’t night kill you as scum

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If I'm a 2-shot cop and we dont end up lynching uzi today and I end up being nightkilled, uzi is scum

Okay sure.

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Skitter is v/LA right? I’d like to talk null and scum reads with them.

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I only have 1 completed game with Skitter so I can’t

Just concede bro. I know it sucks when you’re caught scum and your team is getting bodied but you gotta have some respect for yourself.

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But seriously..

Why is Doggo scum? I’m not going to pretend I can read Doggo but there’s a level of emotion he can’t hide as town and that usually allows me to read him correctly like 65% of the time. While I haven’t seen that yet, I haven’t seen anything that points to him being scum.

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‘O Skitter, where are thou?

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I’m not getting a detached feel from Transcend. He’s expressed interest in lynching my slot multiple times and I recall him being strongly against lynching Lalendra and UCV.

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A lot of the interactions have been kind of hard to read and watch. Specifically the Mulch meltdown and the back and forths Flavor Leaf had with Skitter and Seph.

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So I don’t blame anyone for not trying to parse through them.

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I think he’s been engaged just not in the way you would want town to be. If that makes sense?

Oddly I think he’s just been drowned out.

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I think he’s been engaged just not in the way you would want town to be. If that makes sense?

Oddly I think he’s just been drowned out.

BUT HE DOES THIS WHEN HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE DROWNED OUT.

I don’t know then

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Well I’d appericate if you unvote.

I’d like to not claim

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Trying to follow and understand since you all can’t be scum.

How is suggesting that another player is a good lynch in addition to who they primarily wanted to lynch, deflecting? Those posts from Stitch read like scum testing the waters and seeing what options he could have open.

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Vote Count 1.08

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Stitch(3): Sephiroth, Transcend, Flavor Leaf(L-4)
Lalendra(3): Creature, BigYoshiFan, Sreenplay (L-4)
BigYoshiFan(2): CultOfAthena, Stitch(L-5)
Sreenplay(2): Creature, Fro99er(L-5)
Flavor Leaf(2): Skitter30, Sephiroth(L-5)
Fro99er(1): UC Voyager(L-6)
Flavor Leaf(1): Stitch(L-6)
Lil Uzi Vert(1): Mulch(L-6)


Not Voting: Lalendra(1)
day ends in 5 days, 20 hours, 12 minutes or when a lynch occurs

VOTE: Stitch

Disregard Yoshi since I am Athena and was not voting at this time.

Why do I jump on my partners wagon here?

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Why do I jump on my partners wagon here?

Bus

What’s my motivation to? Why do I draw attention to him there?

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Naked votes inherently draw attention.

I was willing to vote either Mulch or Stitch when I saw VC. I saw one and voted Stitch because he had a wagon.

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So I chose to achieve my win-condition by voting a partner when there was interest expressed in three other people in Flavor Leaf, Lalendra, and Screen. Got it.

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Okay? I’m not you?

And yes I remember because I just quoted the VC and when I voted so others can see the timing of my vote and why it makes no sense for scum to vote for their partner there.

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I don’t care for scum to unvote.

I want whoever is town to stop enabling and unvote.

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Mainly my experince with him. I recall Mulch having similar break downs and irrationally lashing out in the games I’ve been with him. I don’t understand why town goes about meta with a player they did with Seph. I don’t buy his Screen meta and I’d like to think I’m not alone in thinking how he described Screen is nothing like that at all. When I asked him to clarify that as well to show us what a normal lynch rate is, I got crickets.

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Mainly my experince with him. I recall Mulch having similar break downs and irrationally lashing out as scum in the games I’ve been with him. I don’t understand why town goes about meta with a player they did with Seph. I don’t buy his Screen meta and I’d like to think I’m not alone in thinking how he described Screen is nothing like that at all. When I asked him to clarify that as well to show us what a normal lynch rate is, I got crickets.

EBWOP.

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uzi what was mulch's motivation to vote stitch then?

None. Next.

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Yeah. I’ve seen scum mindlessly vote there partners all the time.

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I’m not accusing Mulch of bussing..

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I know I’m town and I believe Mulch is scum.:

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VOTE: Frogger

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Frogger and Mulch for game.

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Srceen is my neighbor.

Sorry, buddy. Looking out for myself here.

VOTE: stitch

Important information

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I don’t care about VCA. Stop mentioning it to me.

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I haven’t used VCA to defend myself. I’ve pointed out that given the context, there is no reason to vote Stitch there as scum.

Screen being a neighbor doesn’t tell you anything about his alignment. It just makes it likely that there is a neighborhood.

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Skitter

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Yeah, I'm kinda done with this game.

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Bad Doggo!

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You’re better than gambits

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Not sure why a town player would hammer someone without a claim.

You don’t need a claim if you have a guilty.

In a meta where gambiting and reaction testing is rampant, you do.

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I don’t fault him. Just advice for next time.

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I feel like I need to reevaluate a bit. Frogger+Mulch is my bet right now but I wanna attempt to figure out Boon and reread the posts from Yoshi I haven’t liked.

UCV is null but honestly I don’t see scum playing like he’s right now and realistically expecting to achieve their win-con. One could argue he’s playing up being lynch bait to coast to end-game but there are much better ways to do that then just actively lurking and popping in randomly.

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so like even if i'm scum here, i would have absolutely no idea what had happened becaue real life took precedence

but sure you tr me for wrong reasons (:

Eh, fair. Still think that the most likely bussing vote on that wagon was FL's.

Doggo, is that a serious claim?

Only have read this page, but I literally faught and pushed that wagon the hardest, and exclaimed that I was gonna make a Stitch case prior to Mulch even replacing in. -.-

@Mulch - you were in my last game where I bused pretty hard, you replaced into it anyways, i don’t win games when I bus, I need my scum support.

Also, I’m down to clown with the mass claim.

I’m a neighbor.

Making a note of this. We had already known he was a neighbor but we didn’t know if he was a PR or had a modifier.

If Boon claims anything else, he’s probably scum.

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Boon, I’m having trouble finding any scum hunting in your ISO.

There is a few attempts and I understand you possibly could’ve been compromised, but I expect more at this point.

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@LUV: Why frogger + Mulch (specifically the frogger part)?

I could switch to Mulch if that becomes a thing, but if Boon tries to claim like anything else I'll probably just vote-park him tbh.

I agree on UCV.

I didn’t like the sequence in which he asked me about Mulch’s motivation for voting Stitch just after asking me why I’m scum reading Mulch. During that sequence, it seemed like all he was trying to do was antagonize me.

I don’t do VCA and in my experience, scum can and will do whatever it takes to win so him repeatedly being baffled that I obviously think they bussed is a defense I can’t really follow.

The other defense of Mulch was the reasoning for why Mulch had voted Stitch. He claimed that Mulch voted after important information. That information was Boon claiming he’s in a neighborhood with Screen. Nothing about that claim tells town anything.

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Not as strong of a reasoning as I thought, but it’s what I got for now.

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf