Normal 1973 - The Fall of House Viliyr - game over

[Katyusha]

Hey, Katyusha is the home wrecker. Me and Transcend we're marital couples bickering back and forth until the new guy/gal came around.

I’m ok with this

My first thought from what I’ve seen is that trans’s claim makes more sense with the setup but I’m going to read up

[Katyusha]

Has Jay fullclaimed what his JOAT powers are?

[Katyusha]

eh, ok, for some reason I thought he said tracker somewhere but that might have been from the fake guilty

that makes a little bit more sense then

This is basically a micro with a double lynch and I probably would have said that there’s scum between the two of them as soon as they were both outted though - i’m guessing this wasn’t the case when wave was lynched?

pedit: I can read trans fairly accurately but haven’t attempted to yet

[Katyusha]

Yeah I’m on it lmao

[Katyusha]

I’m like not really here

it’s probably just jay/una but I haven’t read like anything besides the claims and sheep

trying to get through d1 but I keep getting sidetracked by the view first unread posts button lmfao

[Katyusha]

One thing that does look kind of shitty for trans is he claimed JK day one and scum didn’t kill him

I got that far reading basically only trans’s posts and am kind of nullreading trans which is like... not a good sign

plus he’s basically only pushing flipped town lol

I don’t think it makes sense to have a scum pr if the townie in Jay/Trans exists so

pedit: I don’t think it makes sense for scum!you to be fencesitting here anyway considering sheep is obvtown and jay’s basically confscum fypov

ppedit: una wouldn’t it make more sense to take that into consideration tomorrow after the 1v1 is resolved, or are you approaching this by eliminating teams? Or am I missing something

[Katyusha]

Actually yeah it doesn’t even make sense for there to be an rb in a joat/vig/neighborizer world

like even 1-shot that seems excessive

[Katyusha]

trans not dying then can be explained by bad d1 reads

pedit: that’s just dumb

[Katyusha]

?

you know there’s 1 scum in jay/trans

even if you’re not confident about me vs sheep from your pov that shouldn’t matter - your main focus should be the dipole

[Katyusha]

Wait you’re gated?

pedit: yeah that makes sense too, didn’t even realize trans could have been gated since he hid his mod

And I conviently got roleblocked while you claim N2 Jailkeeper, huh?

why would scum need a roleblocker against a 1-shot cop in a micro?

[Katyusha]

Ok wait to be clear

the claims are:

Vts: me, sheep, una
JOAT (cop/doc/rolecop) - Jay
N2 JK - Trans

Yes?

[Katyusha]

Actually yeah it doesn’t even make sense for there to be an rb in a joat/vig/neighborizer world

like even 1-shot that seems excessive

I thought that was obvious? One of Jay or Trans is lying?

I mean a scum rb

which makes jay’s claim that he was rb’d illogical

[Katyusha]

?

you know there’s 1 scum in jay/trans

even if you’re not confident about me vs sheep from your pov that shouldn’t matter - your main focus should be the dipole

I dont want to risk voting either yet.
I've read both of them multiple times already, and can't say for certain anymore.
Elsas fakeclaim has soured me towards them, but I don't want that to affect me. Its hard.

So what I'm doing, is trying to decide between you and sheep, to maybe help me pick the whole team.

ok, that I guess makes more sense but still

pedit: gotcha. neighbor doesn’t really impact the setup imo though

[Katyusha]

sheep and una would you guys mind if I voted jay right now

I don’t see a world where he’s town rn

Pedit: same

[Katyusha]

^ I agree with that trans, it’s an actual pr

Una and Sheep are vanilla for all I care tho

pedit: the n1 vig is obviously to take town out of evens and to compensate for weaker power in a gated JK and a neighborizer

[Katyusha]

Setup spec is pointless in opens because the setup is already known lmfao

[Katyusha]

What’s there to spec about in like matrix6 though - it’s the same issue

This setup is designed by a human and has meaning to it, it’s dumb to at least not think about why certain roles exist

Pedit: and yet u’ve scumread me at some of my most obvtown games lmfaooooo

[Katyusha]

Again sheep/una would you be offended if I voted jay now

Since i’m a replace in i obviously have less of an attachment to the game so...

pedit: can verify that at the very least

[Katyusha]

jay that isnt a good way to convince ppl lol

Disagree

But the setup makes far more sense in a town!trans world

For you to be town scum has to have some sort of blocking power. we can see in matrix6 that a setup with just a cop (similar in power to your role, since yours is a little stronger than a 1-shot cop) scum has two goons. Town also has a double lynch with the N1 vig and a soft clear in the neighborizer

There’s also the symmetry in the N1/N2 claims and if I understand correctly that wasn’t coordinated or planned by trans after seeing dunks claim

[Katyusha]

And yeah sorry

VOTE: jay

[Katyusha]

F5ing like crazy lol

Pedit: oh - still, i’m not sure what other mod would make sense

[Katyusha]

like you made it clear if I’m timing your iso correctly that you couldn’t act n1

so it’s either n2 or even night

[Katyusha]

Sheeeeeep

[Katyusha]

it’s up to you but i’d wait for una

Pedit: damn it

[Katyusha]

uhm

[Katyusha]

Sheep would have hammered and you voting there doesn’t make any sense

Sorry sheep /:

[Katyusha]

sorry guys

[Katyusha]

yeah I probably

Should have actually read

Pedit: yEAH I WAS WONDERING WHY YOY WERE LIKE OH NO

[Katyusha]

I thought una was kind of obvious when I replaced in tbh but I’m in no place to speak :/

Pedit: Jay it really has nothing to do with that - I lynched you on shitty setup spec that I probably wasn’t going to change

ppedit: I know Jay but :/

[Katyusha]

yeah I guess I overestimated the strength of vig and neighborizer when there’s one more vt

[Katyusha]

I’d think it’s useful the way a fruit vendor is in proving it exists at the very least!

though now I’m curious what scum had as their pr

[Katyusha]

i mean

that’s what I did in my head but I’m not saying I was good - I thought a double lynch and a roleblocker/1-shot cop together didn’t make a lot of sense but I still don’t know what the real pr is - and i’d guess the rolecop was useless or to catch the roleblocker which still seems like less power,

but I still don’t really know what prs scum had and it didn’t really click with me now that trans was a one shot jk :/

I really just voted too hastily

Pedit: Trans I didn’t townread ur play so this is different!!!

[Katyusha]

not listening to me would be a good start

[Katyusha]

ty for hosting had fun can't believe i made it out endgamed by transcummy hahaha