Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

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What have I missed?

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Why is DoYouKnow a leading wagon they have 0 alignment indicative posts?

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Also why is Bujab a wagon I read there ISO and I don't see anything?

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What do you mean by not seeing anything in Bu’s posts? He has a lot of content...?

I did not see anything that would indicate that Bujab is in the informed minority while reading the posts in his iso.

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Not Voting (3): Schism

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Eh. I tend to townread his tone and like how he interacts with me (I played in his first game and he was scum), but I don’t really like the way he contradicts his own thought process a lot

Like his intent on Flubber and some of his votes didn’t really seem to fit his thought process

there’s a point though in that he’s kind of widely scumread

Do you just null him or do you think he’s town?

I think there is pretty decent odds that he just can't get into the game.

It's probably more likely he is scum then town but I don't really think it's worth pursuing a bit over 48 hours into the game since the issues with him will likely sort them self as the day phase goes on one way or another. I guess it kinda just feels lazy to me more then anything else?

I will reevaluate as I read the game but thats my 2 cents if you wanted my opinion right now.

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Bujab felt moderately town to me someone talk to me about your case on him.

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Oh I thought the last line was asking for my thoughts on DoYouKnow, my bad.

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Page 12: Bujub, Katyusha, Hopkirk, Flubber, Not_Mafia all town to some degree.

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lol expecting a decent catch up

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VOTE: Internecine

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Katy have you ever got around to explaining why HEM is town I am not really feeling it.

pedit: roughly page 20 atm, but I read his ISO

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VOTE: Internecine

Basically when reading his posts it doesn't really feel like he is scum hunting by reading the intent behind posts.
Like it kinda just feels like when he scum reads stuff it is either for no reason or because the posts are bad and that's how scum tend to scum hunt since it's relatively easy to identify posts that are bad but it is pretty hard as scum to go look at a post and explain why the intent of the post means the player is scum.

Like he hasn't actually done any real scum hunting this game, he is more just poking at stuff that is "bad".

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I think this always flips scum here.

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Can someone explain to me why Internecine is town I saw a few town reads on him while catching up.

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Most of the low content posters are being tone read as toen

That's always fun to dispute.

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What's your opinion on him popping out just to ask me about my opinion on Hop-Buj thingy? Because that's to me something scum wouldn't normally take note off. Because scum would be like "well yeah of course they aren't". And this is because I don't think there's any reason to think that scum!Internecine can co-exist with scum!Hop or scum!Buj. But I could be wrong tho.

Shallow at best?

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I just felt like he was voting in the right spots at the right time - more of a gut read more than anything

you actually have a pretty good point though

I believe those votes are on town so idk.
And even then the reason to scum read the people he was voting were basically "bad posts" which I kinda already explained on why that is a scum way to scum hunt.

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Bujub, Katyusha, Hopkirk, Flubber, Not_Mafia, Mozamis

Well those are my town reads I will figure out the rest of the slots and read the rest of the game later.
I'll be keeping up to date with recent posts though.

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So in regards to Flubber's push on you making him scum is kinda meh to me.
I dont know if i agree with his case and I am starting to lean towards no I don't but I don't think the case makes him scum.
He isn't hiding behind his case on you as he is pretty active and is sharing other reads. I also don't really see how he plans on getting anywhere with his read as scum here since it is not like he has gained any traction throughout today. With all the easy wagons to choose from i think it is a lot more town to take option 3) randomly case the top poster who is also widely town read. Like that really doesnt net you a whole lot as scum outside a lot of attention. There isnt really a whole lot of scum motivation in his actions and I dont think the quality of his arguments is a reliable way to assess his alignment or at the very least over look everything else I said.
I also think he has been pretty consistent with his push on you unless i am missing something.

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Flubber just reads as obvious town to me idk even more so then Katyusha.

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643 is a town post.
Also I think Bujab is a little too brash here to be scum. I kinda just read his posts and get an uncensored town vibe.

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Moz is town via meta i dont want to and am too lazy to get into.
Katy explained it pretty fine.

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VOTE: Internecine

Remember to do this btw.

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Give UCV 24 hours after his prod and i am ok with a hammer if he hasnt posted anything meaningful.

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Also good morning my friends!

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I still like my justice wagon no one is really talking about.

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How so?

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I am kinda curious to see what Intern thinks of my push on him.

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I am not null on Intern I highly believe he is flipping scum this game.
UCV an above average chance to flip scum but not exactly what I want to pursue when I have a real scum read.

My Flubber read makes perfect sense, this really just isn't a scum push. In addition I find Flubber tends to be a lot more passive in the way he pushes people as town from what I've seen and meta I checked from him. (Torque's open game + others) I think my Flubber read is your main issue?

If you town I think it's kinda simplistic to think I am scum because we have different reads.

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Intern has literally nothing going for him.
His pop ins don't strike me as town pop ins and all he is really doing is coasting.

I kinda just think we should sheep me here.

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Since apparently it's unpopular I am going to look at my BuJab read again.
He rolled scum in his first game on site so I'll see what conclusions I can come up with after reading that game.

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The last 2 is more me stating a lack of opinion.

Intern is just scum here, he hasn't really done anything substantial outside vote popular wagons and call an arbitrary pool of low posters scum. He's just using the game state to coast and that's the vibe I strongly get while I read his posts.
I wouldn't say a meta read is abnormal in regards to Moz.
And my BuJab read I also think is relatively clear but I am looking at it again when I read that newbie game.

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Rem, you can't see Internecine's play equivocally? Town and scum? Do you really believe it's always scum?

Probably not always it's not like I am incapable of being wrong on a read.
It's just this is how scum post while coasting, I am not scum reading him for coasting it's the way he is doing it that is pinging me especially given the active game state.

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I think one scum is pretty likely in {Serg/UC/Schism} btw

This is an opinion that I can see being reasonable

Those are just the 3 lowest posters at the time.
That is an incredibly easy read to fake and my slot didn't even have any posts at the time.
I wouldn't really say there is any nuance to those reads.

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I guess one way I can try and get you to look at this differently is.
Not Mafia and Intern are posting with relatively similar play styles but Not Mafia is pretty town this game.

Like compare the 2 ISOs and see how NM and being impactful while Intern is really just doing nothing.

It's hard for me to explain this read to you when you just don't see it but maybe doing this will help.

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maybe doing this will help you see what I see*

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Perfect!
Now let's get the lynch going.

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What are your thoughts on the intern wagon?

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unvote

sorry my bad.

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Hammering before we get a replacement helps scum so lets not do that

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Hammering before we get a replacement helps scum so lets not do that

do you want to try to explain this

I'd like a role claim from the slot + potential content that is obvious town.

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I am willing to hammer now, no idea what the VC is at but I guess we are getting one.

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@mod VLA through Saturday

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VOTE: No Lynch

Let's no lynch while scum can't make an informed kill.
I'd have preferred if you didn't lynch before I could post yesterday :'(

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Sorry I really need to find the time to sit down with this game.

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I kinda just want to know what the vote count is at right now lol.

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Bussing is not the scum game here.

Why not?