Mini Normal 1982: anagrams (endgame) (egad, men!)

[Tchill13]

if you care about town so much you can answer a few simple questions.

if not you can take the blame for your mislynch if you are town.

im giving you opportunities to work with me.

[Tchill13]

I find only one of those questions reasonable, can you guess which one?

every question is reasonable.

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I find only one of those questions reasonable, can you guess which one?

this is what youre gonna do.

"so the guy who hasnt provided any reasoning or substance has towns best interest in mind?"

"yep" - Notmafia

[Tchill13]

Notmafia you're black listed if you flip town.

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You're already hammered you bafoon.

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You're an idiot

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Welp.

I just keep seeing worse town games lol. It's like you baboons are in a competition or omething .

[Tchill13]

A majority AGREED.

You're ego got in the way.

I gave you opportunities to play.

I do not regret being on your lynch.

I regret allowing your ignorance to hurt my ability to win this game.

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Not even 50 posts from that slot by the time he was hammered...

If you're gonna sign up for a game freaking play the game.

Activity isn't AI.

Activity is what makes the game enjoyable.

Without activity there is no game.

[Tchill13]

Hey guys.... I bet he's setting up his scum partner for a win.

He'll get away with it since RC isn't in here.

[Tchill13]

Thankfully this is the last conversation we will have

[Tchill13]

Eth0s if you want to be confirmed town and you're VT Claim before the game is locked. If you're a PR don't worry about it.

[Tchill13]

I just like to play with people that like to play man. Sorry.

[Tchill13]

I just like to play with people that like to play man. Sorry.

[Tchill13]

I just like to play with people that like to play man. Sorry.

No you like to play with people who don't question you, because you want to be the hero of the game

You never questioned me. Just accused.

[Tchill13]

The fact that you're more interested in discrediting me and providing reasons for that instead of providing reasons to town for who's scum let's me and everyone else know what you care about more. So thx for playing.

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You have the opportunity to work with me now, when I'm town in twilight, instead your puffing up your chest.

Who's scum?

I couldn't figure that out because you disagreed with the majority to mass claim when lylo was a risk.

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Why did you say it was me and profii then?

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Why not use your shots as the doctor when it was clear dunk crumbed a PR while you thought me and profii were scum?

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Why not use your shots as the doctor when it was clear dunk crumbed a PR while you thought me and profii were scum?

[Tchill13]

You're still looking for excuses, talk to me here, who is scum? Do you still think eth0s is?

Sucks when people don't answer.

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OK. That's all I really have for you.

Thanks for participating AFTER you were lynched.

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Once again you're increase in activity after the lynch shows your true motivation.

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Wasn't this an 8ish page day phase? Yeah not a quick lynch when we were begging for a claim buddy.

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Well. I guess.

You post one post for every page. (Unless you've been lynched of course)

So I guess it was a bit quick for you. Maybe we should have warned you of your hammer on day 2.

[Tchill13]

Eth0s please claim.

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Quickly checking in I’ll pick up on some specific observations later when I have more time.

My first impression of day 2 is that everyone seems to have focussed on the boon-drama, this is a fairly natural thing to do I think but he was VT so although he appears to be a well regarded player on this site, I’m wary about considering he’s reads super locked on and wonder if the scum have used the natural drama focus to cast shade early

It concerns me that no one has mentioned Nero so far.

I agree some slots need to engage, so just to that effect for now
VOTE: eth0s

boon spewed nero town so i'm not surprised he died tbh

i mean i don't know why scum didn't kill me but im not complaining
speaking of which ^

i have reasons to think lycan isn't scum so he is one of my top townreads

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Can u explain this? What reasons were you referring too?

The fact that havo brought this up let's me know havo is town.

This is the whole reason I stayed off dunk and yet he did not have a night action that confirmed lycan.

Dunk as a PR was brought up multiple times yet he did not die.

This doesn't look good for dunk.

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Also the mass claim was agreed upon by a majority eth0s.

We had 2 people that decided their way was better than the majorities way.

Can't wait to hear why yours was when you claim.

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My biggest issue is I need an eth0s claim.

My 2nd biggest issue is dunks ability to know lycan is town.

When both are explained I'll be able to move forward.

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You're softs were weak man lol.

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Well we had a doc that didn't use any of his shots.

Apparently eth0s is something.

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Where are our prs
Ascetic motion detector, 2 shot doc and watcher vs ninja is nowhere near balanced

Why is there a ninja exactly?

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Where are our prs
Ascetic motion detector, 2 shot doc and watcher vs ninja is nowhere near balanced

Why is there a ninja exactly?

Never mind I understand.

I wish your lycan town tell was a little more concrete. This would make things a lot easier.

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And now we wait...

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Eth0s scum

Dunker lean scum.

Profii hard null.

Havo town.

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Can't wait to see what eth0s scum buddy comes up with.

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Im a town neopolitan.

1st night I forgot my role

2nd night I got eth0s wasn't a VT.

3rd night I got notmafia wasn't a VT

4th night I got chumba was town.

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Ethos/mulch/fykus?

Isn't this a little too easy or am I just getting ahead of myself?

A team of those 3 kinda makes sense except Eth0s straight up sided with mulch on my lynch.

VT is what mulch claimed after he said he might be a role cop and nobody even mentioned that except me I think.

Read the first word of each line.

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I now feel like profii and eth0s are scum.

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Im a town neopolitan.

1st night I forgot my role

2nd night I got eth0s wasn't a VT.

3rd night I got notmafia wasn't a VT

4th night I got chumba was town.

So.... Any guesses why I wanted a certain 2 ppl to claim first in the mass claim they pitched a fit against?

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Exactly. That's why you're scum with eth0s.

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That crumb is hard to ignore. Same goes for how I handled the mass claim

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And I'm the only investigative.

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Profii I didn't check chumba the night you claimed to jail keep him I checked chumba the night you checked havo

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I'm rereading today.

The fact that profii thought I checked chumba the night he jail kept him (which had he been jail kept he couldn't have even died night 4 when I explicitly stated I checked chumba night 4)

Is alarming.

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So you just blatantly misrepped the fact that you jail kept chumba night 4 instead of night 3 when you couldn't have because he died? Just a mistake huh?

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Profii. Why do you believe eth0s claim so hastily? What's the point of him not claiming day 4?

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If havo claim is to be believed then that would mean I could clear 5 townies...

That seems reasonable.

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The issue is jail keeper and 1 shot BP both make sense with a town neopolitan.

I'm confused as to what's so believable about eth0s claim to profii?

At first glance imo the scum team is dunk and eth0s.

Dunk due to the fact he was a known pr since day one and never died.

Eth0s because of how he handled mass claim as a BULLET PROOF lol. Just ridiculous.

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Where's the scum motivation in specifically stating dunk watched a NK so there must be a ninja?

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I've never seen dunks scum game. Only his town.

Would not surprise me a bit if he was better at being towny as scum.

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Nobody should vote in the next 24 hours.

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I feel like we can have a jail keeper or a 1 shot BP due to the neopolitan but we can't have both...

We did have a 2 shot doc which is leading me to question the jail keepers validity.

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You straight up jumped at the chance to lynch the neopolitan without second guessing but you're BP breakdown was very thorough and you believed it at first thought.

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So do I lock town dunker in lylo when I've never been able to read him correctly?

Literally my worst nightmare.

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I don't care if you scream it from the roof tops.

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Oh lord I just realized dunk is vla till Monday...

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VOTE: randomidget for when they get here. Also i find it highly probable scum is in the haven't posteds

hmm this kinda feels like a stretch cause its only like page 4
VOTE: fykus for now

VOTE: dunk
omgus

Its day 1 and we're still in rvs and so far i havent seen anything that i consider to be ai.

Wed have an early rvs vote from fykus here. That's interesting.

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so do you have like a meta read on him?
ive never played with him before so.

to me he sounds genuine, but idk

VOTE: Fykus

i'm actually going to vote here for now.
i don't think anyone particularly townreads fykus and i'd like to hear a response to my post

VOTE: sergtacos
only voting to put some pressure

"only voting to put some pressure" means he's saying its not a real vote. once again dunk says one thing but doesn't fully commit to it.

I wasn’t voting tacos cause I scumreas him but just to put some pressure to make him post.
I’ll go back now that he’s posted and hopefully he posts more
VOTE: fykus

This feels a bit awkward.

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mulch bussing probably but
VOTE: eth0s

VOTE: mulch

ok whatever
if you're wrong im parking my vote tmr
VOTE: chumba

ok
VOTE: mulch

VOTE: chumba

also this sucks

that's true
i could just see him being newb town but i'll vote there from now
VOTE: eth0s

you're making sense tbh, if mulch was right though he's gunna get so mad at me

Couple of votes on eth0s here without great reasoning.

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Taco is town af. Lol

Also, Dunkerdoodles is lock town. Don’t ever lynch him.

Well.... This is refreshing lol. May just sheep boon on his reads. He does have a history of reading tacos and dunker well opposed to myself.

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And yes Ik boon said I was scum Idc.

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Ethos could take one of the scum slots, but not enough yet.

Unah is probably the best bet for any investigatives.

This is good to see.

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So he was wrong about me and chumba.

He was right about taco. He could be looking at around a 50 percent success if eth0s is scum and that sounds about right for boon.

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Cus I'm assuming he's right about dunker which would push him over the 50 percent mark and I believe in boon enough to trust a 70ish percent success rate.

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I'm a bit confused why Mulch looked at my ISO, decided I was town for a bit then randomly went back to calling me scum.

Apart from that, with Mulch not presenting anything scummy, I can still see my Taco Frame Job at least being possible

VOTE: Fykus

That's L-1. Stating intent to hammer in approximately 19 hours if he doesn't repond. Fykus: any role claim?

LOL at Fykus just giving up. Was he game throwing?
Gonna stick with my gut read for now and

VOTE: mulch

Worth pointing out imo.

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I was okay with wagoning tacos but Mulch is actually bringing some new perspective to the table and seems to be genuinely scumhunting. As of now I see no reason to wagon him anymore. Top 3 scumreads in order of most to least certain:

profii
Fykus
Havo

1 was scum.
2 are in lylo.

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Why not?

Idk I just thought we would be a bit more methodical. If you all want to wagon him then go ahead but I would like to be a little more sure before I vote. Another mislynch+NK means our scum lynch yesterday won't mean nearly as much.

If anyone wants to actually make a case against him then I'm all ears.

mulch/dunker/profii have most of my attention currently.

1 was town.
2 are in lylo.

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@Tchill: why did you make so many posts about fykus on day1 but wait until day2 to vote him? are you still heavily townreading lycan? still townreading dunker? how are you reading profii?

in terms of who's alive in that list when it was made.

1 was town
2 are in lylo.

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Even if it's not havo/tchill we can expect at least one, maybe two scum (other than fykus) on that lynch. It was pretty obvious for awhile that he was going to die. Surely someone wanted towncred. I don't see profii being scum, and i'm townleaning mulch currently. That leaves my null dunker and the most likely imo, havo/tchill

As many lists as profii has been in eth0s states here he believes profii is town.

Also points out scum probably wanted toencred while ETH0S WASN'T ON THE WAGON.

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Ooh. That's good stuff havo.

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The problem is that dunker will always townread scum and scumread town so even if tchill is scum, dunker is preventing us from ever lynching him

We don't necessarily need dunker's vote though. I want to reread lycans iso so I can know whether or not to expect his cooperation. I think profii would probably be okay with lynching tchill, too.

disclaimer: on my phone currently so I can't verify anything I just said atm

@chumba

how are you reading tchill/havo/lycan

1 was town
2 are in lylo.

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If you want I can vote the other scum profi

I wouldn't be surprised a bit if mulch nailed scum fykus and scum profii.

Once again apologies for the mislynch mulch.

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Eth0s feel free to claim.

You're hilarious. The chances of me claiming today are 0%. You're more than welcome to, though.

sorry, the chances of me claiming without a massclaim are 0%**

Still think massclaim at this point is stupid but I guess if we go there I don't really have a choice.

Fought the mass claim after he agreed upon it.

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The way I see it, the whole fact that I'm adamant about not claiming is probably just gonna get me night killed. Not sure if that benefits the town more than someone else getting NK'ed, but whatever. If it happens it happens I guess.

Probably the nail in the coffin tbh.

Made sure to let scum know he was a PR but they killed chumba instead.

I wonder why.

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In 1320 eth0s says scum not killing dunker after he claimed pr was suspicious. I'd say the same goes for eth0s himself.

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Lmao...

Eth0s and profii has to be S/S right?

"What the hell man. You thought I could be 1shot BP and you still wanted the mass claim?"

That's cheesy as hell.

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Eth0s constantly shows an awareness for how his posts come off.

Constantly made list early that ended up with 2 of the 3 being in lylo and profii was in multiple lists.

Said he'd claim in a mass claim then refused to.

"Let" profii pull the claim out of him.

He's gotta be scum.

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So profii. You can bus your scum buddy now and we can get the show on the road or we can wait till dunker gets back on Monday.

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ok so the eth0s ISO:


#385 - Voted me because the Taco theory was out there - but I say this was proved right, so this is an alarm bell.


#783 - I pointed out I come up with theories and i was town in my last game, although I can be wrong, it's what I do. eth0s went Mulch

That reminds me of the whole eth0s vs Mulch vs Chumba episode, and I think I made quite clear analysis on how I think that went in #1173

As I was making the point in post #1165 - eth0s claimed he was doing the opposite of what I was evidencing in #1173 - so this is a concern too.

He then moves on to #1215 and tries to dismiss the whole debate, which again, a concern because I think he's been caught out or can't explain his action.


the only other main point is that there is a general theme of eth0s scum reading Tchill which he does not relax in his post today #1320

throughout the ISO you could read it as conf bias s/s distancing but given he hasn't relaxed this today and scum only need to lynch 1 town to win, I am guessing they are not s/s.

You didn't notice weird list pattern or the awareness of how posts came off as towny or scummy? That's odd.

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Quickly checking in I’ll pick up on some specific observations later when I have more time.

My first impression of day 2 is that everyone seems to have focussed on the boon-drama, this is a fairly natural thing to do I think but he was VT so although he appears to be a well regarded player on this site, I’m wary about considering he’s reads super locked on and wonder if the scum have used the natural drama focus to cast shade early

It concerns me that no one has mentioned Nero so far.

I agree some slots need to engage, so just to that effect for now
VOTE: eth0s

Oh, Eth0s posted and it was sound. UNVOTE: eth0s

Voted eth0s early for lack of content. Unvoted after knew post.

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Also tchill is town!

As time goes on, the low posters concern me more and more

Gotta look back and see if profii was on the notmafia lynch.

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I'm a bit confused why Mulch looked at my ISO, decided I was town for a bit then randomly went back to calling me scum.

Apart from that, with Mulch not presenting anything scummy, I can still see my Taco Frame Job at least being possible

VOTE: Fykus

Failing to see you're actual reasoning for voting fykus.

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Tchill did you know you are the most town read player?

Is there a reason for this post?

Because it’s eye catchingly out of place.

It came out of my little analysis of who is reading whom which way. Tchill had the most town reads. Wasn’t expecting it so thought I’d highlight

Still an odd remark. Definitely wanted to put the spotlight on me with that comment.

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Tchill did you know you are the most town read player?

I’ll just bring this back if we are looking at tchill. To come to this conclusion I literally went over every ISO and made a note of how each player read every other player - I.e readlist or vote etc.

Obviously, I did it in reverse so latest read applied - I probably should keep it up to date but it’s on my work computer as I don’t have excel at home

I did it during the night period so at the point scum were picking their kill TChill was the most town rated player, the subtle message in the quote was “this guy should have died or at least been an option on their hit list last night does anyone think this is odd”

Obviously the scum team probably didn’t pick a target *that* methodically and Unas lack of posts made him a fairly sensible target as he was I think 3rd highest town rated after Lycan off the top of my head


I need to read my ISO - there was something tchill did that made me locktown him and I didn’t point it out but this might be the time I need to bring it to the discussion

Ok, I don’t know why I locked town tchill so let’s unlock that
One thing I’ll bring to the tchill discussion is my D1 vote analysis 469 - tchill did make a weird move off and back on the wagon

However - earlier 400 earlier, I’d talked about the misquote slip Chumba brought to our attention and Tchill encourages me to vote for him

I think I could be down for that but I did like he didn’t dodge the misquote thing earlier

You "like" that he "didn't dodge" something???








without even knowing what the fuck you are talking about this already sounds like scum reasoning

moving on a bit as I was looking at the point that Tchill raised where he said Mulch had ignored all the red flags against Fykus. I think it’s my naivety in this game that I didn’t just straight up vote the aforementioned misquote. In hindsight, great spot by Chumba, easy to say post-flip...

Anyway, this was the first Fykus related post by mulch, as tchill says about 100 odd posts into the ISO
Mulch did make the point he had around 27 pages to catch up on so I can forgive him that, however this post alarms me.

At this stage, Mulch has addressed me when I was addressing the Fykus slip. I still stand by my post above that Fykus did make a reasonable unconcerning effort to respond to pressure but Chumba saw through that.

I am concerned if Mulch is as great as he seems to think he is, he claims to not know what’s going on but at this point I think he knows he should be lynching Fykus, it’s easy enough to click on post links or ISOs to find out and drive your point home


So by looking into tchill I actually want to

VOTE: Mulch

I went from being lock town to doing something weird day one in breaknecking speed.

[Tchill13]

So this adjusts my theory.

eth0s isn't a n00b who doesn't know why we should mass claim, he is a soft claiming PR that can potentially extend the game. This has become all too obvious so he should reveal everything on the basis he is going to die tonight as scum have to target that as their biggest threat.

That leaves the rest of us as a lynch - me / havo / tchill / dunks.
Let's discard Dunks as the claim seems legit/uncontested etc. It's going to be pretty tough to find a definite scum out of the remaining 3 so there is high chance we mislynch.

This means the 2 remaining scum kill and win, doesn't matter if it was eth0s or not.

But with any further info, we can probably whittle down the 4 players. (I'm lock lock lock towning dunk tbh) and have half a chance - if we lynch 1 scum now, it's 1 scum vs 2 town tomorrow.

Therefore, no hardclaim + action list = eth0s lynch for me.

Told you this would work.
I have a confession to make - I am the Jail keeper.

my actions were Una / Lycan / Chumba / havo

I'm trusting your claim as it adds up to your reluctance to claim, in the same spirit as Not_Mafia's reluctance.

That makes tchil and havo scum

I made excessive use of the word lock but then discovered people use the expression locktown regularly which diluted it a bit.
I used stitch up which is a UK Jail term (I work in a prison IRL lol but chumba missed the reference) and I'm sure I made another soft reference so I'l see if I can find it to try and prove my claim as I am going to guess Havo and TChill will push me today given that I'm the last PR to come out and I tried to lie for a bit.

I didn't want to claim until everyone else because if you were VT I could block the mafia kill so I was going to just see if I could ride it out but now I think we know everything.

Also, they are not going to kill you because they cant
the logical move is to kill me because I can stop their kill
they might go for dunks because he can watch me and prove the claim.

even though I made a big case for Havo and said go for Tchill first, is because I blocked Havo last night and the kill still went through - so Tchill is likely the ninja. I suggest we lynch him now and I'll block Havo.


winner winner chicken dinner.

Look at how PERFECT the eth0s claim sets up the jail keeper claim for profii.

Profii knows eth0s can protect or be protected.

Pushes him as the lynch since profii is "the jail keeper".

Eth0s claims 1 shot BP and the trick is... Profii undoubtedly believes eth0s.

Well since profii had "lock lock lock Towned" dunk this leaves the perfect scum team of me and havo.

This is where dunk is supposed to vote havo and it wins scum profii and scum eth0s the game.

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Yeah seriously. Just vote your partner so we don't have to wait till Monday.

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You said the low posters worried you and you weren't even know the notmafia lynch.

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Tchill is wrong and will cause a town loss so I need to provide a trust tell to try and convince you. I know I made a mistake but lynch me and game over.

The only other thing I can do is offer to do is Jail keep Tchill so he can verify his fail tomorrow - I think by flushing my theory out putting you (havo) as VT works and the fake claim is Eth0s/ Dunks - I believe Tchill!Neo I just think Scum aligned

A trust tell implies that you know I won't be hammered by scum.

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If I was scum I'd just lie instead of verify you're RB. You know that.

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So town has no investigative?

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What happens when I'm never hammered? You gonna push a dunk/??? Scum team since I wasn't hammered? You're not convincing anyone.

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Major flaw with yalls claim is yall never show suspicion or even a thought that scum could kill you.

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So town has no investigative?

And once again town has a watcher and a role detector but mafia have a ninja?

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Motion detector.

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Wait if you're willing to risk the game on this then you must know the scum team? Who's my supposed partner profii?

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argh wait. If I am doubting dunkers claim, there is nothing to say they actually have a ninja

“O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!”

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I can die and we can win no problem.

we lynch scum!Tchill.
I Jailkeep eth0s.

So the 2 scenarios are scum!eth0s or scum!dunks


No NK = either scum!eth0s or crafty frame job by scum!dunks.
either way, me / have / dunks will lynch eth0s, it's the only way. Even eth0s should self vote if he is town. (if it's scum!eth0s town win)

I then jail keep scum!dunks again and there is no NK again. Me and Havo lynch Dunks, town win.


Or if scum!dunks kills me, town!eth0s and town!havo kill dunks, town win.


job done, even if I die, plus my role would be confirmed.

Why would you jail keep eth0s he's 1 shot BP?

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But what if you're scum? What if you're scum trying to rationalize an early vote and you only need one night phase to win the game?

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Points for not giving up though. I admire that.

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I can die and we can win no problem.

we lynch scum!Tchill.
I Jailkeep eth0s.

So the 2 scenarios are scum!eth0s or scum!dunks


No NK = either scum!eth0s or crafty frame job by scum!dunks.
either way, me / have / dunks will lynch eth0s, it's the only way. Even eth0s should self vote if he is town. (if it's scum!eth0s town win)

I then jail keep scum!dunks again and there is no NK again. Me and Havo lynch Dunks, town win.


Or if scum!dunks kills me, town!eth0s and town!havo kill dunks, town win.


job done, even if I die, plus my role would be confirmed.

Why would you jail keep eth0s he's 1 shot BP?

based on my original theory where you are scum and you used your power to look at someone other than chumba N4 and you just lied, that means your scum partner made the kill on chumba. That means havo is conf-town as he was in Jail.


Therefore you partner is eth0s or dunks. 1 is lying clearly. If I jailkeep dunks and no one dies, we wifom over the 1sbp claim. If I take that out of the game I use my jailkeeper power to win the game. I KNOW this works which is why I'm laying my vote down

Once again. You're post show you don't even think about the fact YOU could be the NK. Consistently ignoring that thought.

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Problem with your theory is when scum decide to no kill when you jail keep a towny.

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If you die next night phase how does your jk stop a kill?

You're 110 percent certain I'm scum and must convince dunk of that certainty also because when I flip town from dunks perspective if you don't JK scum then scum win.

You're scum bro. So is eth0s.

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You're willing to risk the game on a 50/50 shot of JK'ing scum between dunk or eth0s.

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Problem with your theory is when scum decide to no kill when you jail keep a towny.

if I jail keep eth0s, lets say dunk is scum, he kills havo. me and eth0s kill dunk.

if i jail keep eth0s, lets say dunk is scum, he kills me, i flip jail keeper - my honesty is proven. Havo/eth0s lynch dunker.

if i jail keep eth0s, lets say dunk does nothing for lulz, we lynch eth0s anyway because of the wifom (As i said, even town!eth0s should self vote here!) . I jail keep dunker, no kill, me and havo lynch to win.


it only goes wrong if havo is scum, but you are likely a neo due to the breadcrumbs you gave us, which means havo didnt kill based on him being in jail which means your scum partner is eth0s/dunkers


i mean at that point, I'd expect dunker to conceed defeat along the way,but we can drag it out if you want

That's given I'm scum lol. That's the problem.

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If profii and chumba are town this game.... I just found some new friends.

Due to opinions on day 1.

Even though you're scum here I'll keep an eye out for you in sign up lists.

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Given this has come down to me vs you. it's clear one of us is scum and I have a clear plan to earn a town win. All town need to do is trust that I am a JK.

I can't really say any more than that

Is trust that you're a JK and I'm 200 percent scum.

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Well I've yet to see an actual case on me. You've called me scum just to call me scum versus me break down of you and eth0s being scum together. Setting each other's claims up. Meanwhile you don't even know who my scum partner is so I guess we'll see.

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If profii and chumba are town this game.... I just found some new friends.

Due to opinions on day 1.

Even though you're scum here I'll keep an eye out for you in sign up lists.

I accept this as confirmation that you accept this has come down to me vs you therefore one of us is town and one of us is scum (so i know I'm right)

I say good game to you sir and let's see how the town decide who the victor may be.


I will be gutted if town go with you because I got confused which night I jailed chumba, i just thought i caught you out

Nice misrep of the worst reason also. I've listed plenty reasons other than this.

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When eth0s inevitably sides with you dunk will know who's scum.

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Just gonna ignore the multiple list eth0s made that had you and another lylo player in it before lylo? Don't that that's odd at all?


My plan for a town win is quite simple. We lynch eth0s or profii. Then we lynch the other the next day phase.

I'm so confident in this team I don't care which one we lynch first.

I guess it'd be profii due to the 1v1.

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And I'll tell you why dunks gonna know I'm town. Because after all this, after all the screaming and complaining boons word isn't golden I went back to a day 1 boon read where he lock Towned dunk because I simply can't read him and ik boon can.

If dunk is town he knows there's a RB or a ninja on the scum team.

Due to the fact everyone knew dunk was a PR and I'm a neopolitan townie I'm thinking it's a scum RB.

if scum have an RB then town should have a better investigative than just watcher or motion detector.

So if you're angling for dunker to side with you then you need to explain the lack of balance in the setup that leaves town with no investigative but leaves scum with a RB and you can't do that.

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You mean to say my hypothetical partner isn't the guy I'm pushing as part of the scum team? Wow. Brilliant.

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Lynching profii/eth0s then lynching the other is what wins us the game.

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Lol @ Ethos straight up calling Profi a liar but .............

Voting someone else.

lol @ you contributing nothing to this game the entire time and somehow getting away with it.

Then vote him and don't do what daddy told you.

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Where's your legit bread crumbs profii?

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I mean the ones that are supposed to make people believe you're jail keeper. That way we're not just going off your word.

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Need to note this so I dont forget. Me and profii voting tchill and havo being online but not hammering could be the key to winning this assuming tchill flips red.

... You're scum partner said dunk was my teammate. Get back in the scum thread and figure this out you two.

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I just think people should use reason over omeone 's "word" that's all.

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I bring up one thing and it's resorting lol. Touchy touchy.

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Doesn't matter. The fact that Eth0s didn't check the scum thread before he started posting should win us the game.

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Can't believe someone laid down a vote in lylo without reading someone's iso lol. That's good stuff.

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Eth0s laying down a vote and acusing me and havo of being scum together is like... Just the picture perfect ending to a game you two played really well in until the end.

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I've never seen scum flat out beg for a townie to throw down a vote that leads to a mislynch. Pretty entertaining.

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eth0s - Havo was in Jail night 4 when Chumba died.
Tchil (who you are voting for) is highly likely to be a Neo, given the evidence he has posted. This can be scum aligned so that is ok.
This means Havo was unable to kill, TChill was busy Neo'ing someone and a different scum player killed chumba.

Havo is conf town!!

Why didn't you say dunker?

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Dunker would have killed chumba in that instance correct?

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Profii please answer.

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in theory go on...

No. It's a yes or no answer. If it played out like that dunk did the kill right? Yes or no?

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I'm saying from your perspective as soon as eth0s voted me. That means you could have been voting in lylo WITH SCUM. Since you didn't want to say if dunk or eth0s made the kill.

You're hesitation to answer the question is pretty funny

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You're too worried about what your answers will look like. You're scum.

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Wasn't about you saying it was dunker. It was the fact that you left the door open to where eth0s could have made that kill and you could have been voting WITH him in lylo. Town wouldn't vote WITH possible scum in lylo.

You're scum.

I'll be back on Monday.

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Wasn't about you saying it was dunker. It was the fact that you left the door open to where eth0s could have made that kill and you could have been voting WITH him in lylo. Town wouldn't vote WITH possible scum in lylo.

You're scum.

I'll be back on Monday.

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Dunker is gonna have to be here to lynch scum due to the fact me, dunker and havo are town and you two aren't gonna vote each other.

Eth0s voted with profii while calling profii a liar IN LYLO.

Profii voted with a player that he said could potentially be scum IN LYLO.

Yall aren't gonna vote each other but you'll vote WITH one another on someone else while neither of you believe the other is conftown.

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Tchill will You vote Dunker with me

Me/dunk/havo are town and you and eth0s are scum.

I'm never voting havo or dunk.

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Also, Dunkerdoodles is lock town. Don’t ever lynch him.

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im not betting anything.

eth0s and profii are scum

dunk, havo and tchill are town.

end of discussion.

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Eth0s


You have apparent tendencies to flip out and miss the details. The scenarios above highlight that if the scum team is Dunkers plus you or tchil I can win the game for town

You have to either consider:

Scenario 1: tchil = scum = havo was in jail and tchil is highly likely a neo, therefore someone else made the kill
Scenario 2: tchil = town = havo had the chance to hammer for a scum win when we voted. He didn’t - highly likely town

pretty funny you never even suggested i made the kill and just said chumba was vt because he flipped vt.

you're not thinking of all the possible scenarios just the ones that benefit your agenda.

youre scum. with eth0s.

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dunk knows i cant read him

dunk knows i know boon can.

honestly i'd be laughing if i were you too lol.

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Wasn't about you saying it was dunker. It was the fact that you left the door open to where eth0s could have made that kill and you could have been voting WITH him in lylo. Town wouldn't vote WITH possible scum in lylo.

You're scum.

I'll be back on Monday.

still haven't acknowledged this.

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Right right. Imagine that.

Scum need one lynch to win.

You need one lynch to ensure town victory.

Funny how that works.

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You laid a vote down in lylo and while only being confident that one player was town lol.

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Profii you're losing me here bud. I don't see a single place where you explained this was a better avenue than lynching tchill. But if we are all going to vote on different people (me on tchill, you on dunk, tchill only on me or you, havo prob on me or dunk) then fuck it.
VOTE: profii
@tchill you still think me and profii are scum? Vote with me. Then when we lose I can blame you, and if he's somehow scum then you'll know you can trust me. Havo and dunker clearly don't want to put any effort in so we might as well get lynching or just prod dodge until the day is over.

VOTE: profii

Havo where you at?

Dudes literally bussing his scum partner lol.

I can't wait for eth0s to unvote profii after he sees this post.

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Eth0s you're totally conftown when profii flips scum (winks at havo and dunker)

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Yeah you're totally gonna put the game in jeopardy by chancing havo scum here lol.

Good joke.

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this is basically a race between eth0s taking note of my posts or havo coming online lol

If it's clearly me and dunker you shouldn't be worried about havo voting you.

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eth0s unvote and actually read what ive said and question it or we lose

Scum thread: profii

Eth0s you're gonna vote me to distance. We'll call their bluff there's no way they'll actually vote me after you vote me.

(Tchill lays down vote)

ABORT MISSION. I REPEAT. ABORT MISSION AND UNVOTE ME NOW.

I'm having too much fun with this.

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So dunk is town.

Dunk said he didn't get a result one night when he watched the person who was NK'D.

This means scum probably have a role blocker.

That falls in line with a neopolitan townie but so does JK.

The trick is a watcher does create some confusion.

The motion detector is similar to the watcher.

We have a 2 shot doc for the protective.

I DO NOT believe that there's a JK and an RB in the same game the only investigative is a neopolitan townie. That makes things too difficult imo.

Since I believe dunk is town and his word is the truth that means...

Profii probably listed who he role blocked as scum.

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Sure it does. You can have both with a town neopolitan. Throw in a scum RB and you have a hell of a set up. Lots of confusion based off night actions.

Throw in a jail keeper and now it's just too much confusion.

There's absolutely no scum motivation for dunker throwing in the deails that he watched who was NK'D but got no result.

There's absolutely scum motivation in throwing around your vote in lylo because you have a "plan" that wins town the game no matter what.

You submitted a scum team of me and havo by PoE. Handed dunk a TR and hoped he'd believe yall.

I submitted a scum team of you and eth0s by interactions and setting each other's claims up.

You then threw your votes around and hoped you caused enough confusion that havo would side with you two.

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Ehhhhh. It was fun. GG.

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What we'd have. 2 replace outs. A slot with less than 40 posts and a scum VLA in lylo?

I just dug into my theory.

Apologies for the loss.

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In all honesty I didn't see how you and eth0s could have been different alignments.

I went back to a boon read for my dunker read.

I should have known something was up when I actually felt good about TR'ing him.

I mean I was all in on eth0s profii. Not sure why you just believed his 1 shot claim so easily then didn't believe I was town aligned.

I wouldn't advocate to throwing around your vote in lylo either.

I still had a lot of fun with this.

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No.

It was over after you laid your vote down.

You couldn't do anything to change my mind because I thought for sure you were scum after that.

Eth0s you played a pretty great game congratulations.

Dunk definitely did too he had me fooled.

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That's what sold me on you two being scum. You're complete trust in eth0s.

I'm terrible about digging into my own theories. I ignore the slightest possibilities afterwards.

To be fair your plan would have worked had we lynched scum buuuuut you can see why I was sketched out about that.

Like I said I was locked in man lol. Sorry.

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Hey I'm happy to take the blame for this loss I don't really care what's said about me to be quite frank lol.

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But he locked dunker town and all my reads were based on that lol

thats just fucking dumb

He’s never misread dunker tho

Yes it's dumb. But mulch has a point.

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Mulch part of the reason I lynched you was you replaced into that slot.

I'm bad on replace in/replace outs.

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Hey I'm happy to take the blame for this loss I don't really care what's said about me to be quite frank lol.

Pretty sure I was the only one who said anything about blaming you, right? And that was just to try and secure the win

Eth0s was lock scum. Had we lynched eth0s right there profii was probably gonna be next anyways lol. It would have mattered.

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Or we don't blame a single person and everyone looks at where they went wrong and why

Ok. Tell me why you didn’t play?

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Doubled his posts count in an effort to spite me lol. AS TOWN.

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Should be fail.