Mini Normal 1982: anagrams (endgame) (egad, men!)

[Havo]

ahh... fykus, dunker, una, serg, havo... we meet again.

VOTE: tchill

This feels like the game you draw scum in.

[Havo]

ahh... fykus, dunker, una, serg, havo... we meet again.

VOTE: tchill

This feels like the game you draw scum in.

i wish. maybe you accuse me of drawing scum first because you drew scum... hmm...

Nope just the ole regular.
I’m 0 for 14 at drawing scum. It’s damn ridiculous.

[Havo]

*** DISCLAIMER ***

Just an FYI for you peoples.

I HATE day 1’s. If ANYONE gets to L-1 in the first few days, I will absolutely hammer them without giving them a chance to claim. Faster than you can believe. Unless I hard TR them. Which on Day 1 is very rare. In order to get to night one and get the game rolling.
Don’t expect extensive read lists from me on Day 1 either. If someone scum pings me I’ll definitely go after them but other than that I see Day 1’s as a crapshoot.

If you guys don’t like this play style then feel free to lynch me and I’ll move on to the next signups.

[Havo]

VOTE: morality

[Havo]

Told ya.

[Havo]

VOTE: profiVOTE: [vote/]

Yes this is scum.

[Havo]

VOTE: profi

[Havo]

I don’t like Lucan either. But Dunk likes Lycan and I like Dunk.

[Havo]

If we kill Nero, town will think he was on to us as he had a bit of a boner for Tacos, they’ll probably lynch Tacos next”

Or maybe taco is actually scum and they killed Nero hoping nobody looks into it.

Taco hasn’t done anything that resembles town play yet.

Standard Tacos.

[Havo]

because...

No need to point it out yet.

U can stew for awhile.

[Havo]

Lmao. Boons word isn't golden. You're going to need actual reasoning.

Moves the needle a bit.

[Havo]

@Dunk.

Mini Normal 1952.

Boon is a good player right? I don’t dispute that. But MN 1952 is the only time I’ve ever played with him. And it’s THE WORST town game I’ve ever seen by any player in my entire history of playing mafia. It was spectacularly bad. Boon was scum MVP.
He can be and often is wrong.

[Havo]

Full re read coming.

[Havo]

Havo lacks the energy to be town
He’s demotivated and coasting
He’s posting in other games
He’s scum

Hey Mulch is in the game.

And going after easy targets.

I had a busy weekend and didn’t get to do my re read.

I will get caught up hopefully this afternoon.

Mulch you’ve never seen my scum game. Lol.

I love playing scum and would be extremely active so if anything
My absence should be a town tell.

[Havo]

Havo lacks the energy to be town
He’s demotivated and coasting
He’s posting in other games
He’s scum

Hey Mulch is in the game.

And going after easy targets.

I had a busy weekend and didn’t get to do my re read.

I will get caught up hopefully this afternoon.

Mulch you’ve never seen my scum game. Lol.

I love playing scum and would be extremely active so if anything
My absence should be a town tell.

Link a scum game?

Sorry, no can do.

I’m 0/14 at drawing scum on this site. A bit ridiculous.

It’s about caused me to try another site.

But the town play here can be so bad I’m just dying to draw scum.

[Havo]

I’m up to page 21.

So far -

Town is Chumba/Tchill/Lycan/Ethos

Null is Una/Tacos/Dunk/Random

Scummy is Fykus/Profi

I’m having issues with Dunk.

I’ll try and finish at next break.

[Havo]

Link another site?

Sorry. Can’t.

[Havo]

Ok I’m caught up.

Those last 10pages didn’t change much with my reads.

I think Fykus is the best Lynch as of now.

I got town tells on Chumba and Tchill early that I’d rather not divulge, but I’m not voting either one anytime soon.

I’m hard TRing them and Dunk as of now.

I’m leaning town on Lycan.

I’m null on Una and Ethos.

I see profi as scummy but am willing to give him more time.

I think Mulch has been forceful scum with his entrance.

But I have the most confidence in Fykus flipping scum.

[Havo]

Oh and I have nothing on Not Mafia.

[Havo]

VOTE: Fykus

[Havo]

@Dunk.

Where do you stand on Una and Ethos?

[Havo]

I’m leaning town on Lycan.

Care to convince me?

[Havo]

VOTE: fykus

Fykus hammered himself. LMAO!

[Havo]

Fykus hammered himself. LMAO!

that is usually what caught scum will do.

Yeah I’ve learned that here.

Always good to know you nailed scum.

[Havo]

I thought it was a player fairly universally town read to confuse us

And what about that would “confuse” us?

[Havo]

also una's a weird kill

Why is that?

[Havo]

@Mulch....

What were you doing last nite?

[Havo]

Prediction : today’s lynch will end up on one of

Me / Havo / Tchill

Why would you post this?

[Havo]

@Mulch....

What were you doing last nite?

IRL or ingame

Lol. No offense but why would I care about what you did IRL?

[Havo]

I never claimed anything and I'm not going to let town rolefish me

You can get with the program or you can swing.

[Havo]

VOTE: Mulch

[Havo]

VOTE: unvote

[Havo]

I’m 99% sure chimba is scum

chumba

I think Fykus is the best Lynch as of now.

I got town tells on

Chumba

and Tchill early that I’d rather not divulge, but I’m not voting either one anytime soon.

[Havo]

VOTE: proffii

This is no longer Day 1, you need to put some reasoning behind your vote.

And it would also be a good idea to give your thoughts on the game to this point, as you are a prime

Lynch candidate for today.

[Havo]

Why not?

Idk I just thought we would be a bit more methodical. If you all want to wagon him then go ahead but I would like to be a little more sure before I vote.

Another

mislynch+NK means our scum lynch yesterday won't mean nearly as much.

If anyone wants to actually make a case against him then I'm all ears.

mulch/dunker/profii have most of my attention currently.

This seems like a bit too much worry.

You are not giving me the town vibes I’d like.

[Havo]

Could one of lycan/ethos be scum? I don’t really town read either and neither were super strong scum reading fykus.

Ethos could be for sure IMO.

I like Lycan so far.

[Havo]

Could one of lycan/ethos be scum? I don’t really town read either and neither were super strong scum reading fykus.

Ethos could be for sure IMO.

I like Lycan so far.

I don’t

Yes. But I don’t particularly like you.

So we have some work to do.

[Havo]

Tchill did you know you are the most town read player?

Is there a reason for this post?

Because it’s eye catchingly out of place.

[Havo]

Could one of lycan/ethos be scum? I don’t really town read either and neither were super strong scum reading fykus.

Ethos could be for sure IMO.

I like Lycan so far.

Why?

I find Lycans post to be sensible so far. Some decent thought behind them.

Ethos not so much.

[Havo]

Could one of lycan/ethos be scum? I don’t really town read either and neither were super strong scum reading fykus.

Ethos could be for sure IMO.

I like Lycan so far.

Why?

I find Lycans post to be sensible so far. Some decent thought behind them.

Ethos not so much.

You do realize scum are the ones most preoccupied for putting out good thoughts?

Yes. I understand basic mafia.

[Havo]

Yes. I understand basic mafia.

can you teach mulch?

That’s the secret. Mulch knows.

[Havo]

I can tell you right now if Not Mafia isn’t going to contribute any more than what he has. I’m good with lancing that slot.

[Havo]

I’m
100% sure

Chumba is scum

100%

This is uncalled for.

Why are you playing this way?

I’m gonna say it again.

Get with the program or eat rope.

[Havo]

Even if it's not havo/tchill we can expect at least one, maybe two scum (other than fykus) on that lynch. It was pretty obvious for awhile that he was going to die. Surely someone wanted towncred. I don't see profii being scum, and i'm townleaning mulch currently. That leaves my null dunker and the most likely imo, havo/tchill

What game are you reading?

If you are town you’re pushing for scum MVP right now.

[Havo]

Even if it's not havo/tchill we can expect at least one, maybe two scum (other than fykus) on that lynch. It was pretty obvious for awhile that he was going to die. Surely someone wanted towncred. I don't see profii being scum, and i'm townleaning mulch currently. That leaves my null dunker and the most likely imo, havo/tchill

I’m the guy who lead us to that lynch.

You don’t lynch townies who find scum.

What kind of agenda are you pushing?

[Havo]

Ethos/mulch/fykus?

Isn't this a little too easy or am I just getting ahead of myself?

A team of those 3 kinda makes sense except Eth0s straight up sided with mulch on my lynch.

VT is what mulch claimed after he said he might be a role cop and nobody even mentioned that except me I think.

this makes sense
cause you know, i suggested it earlier

I would be shocked if it was that easy.

But it could be that simple. It could be that scum feels like they are in a bad spot with Fykus busted so quick and now Tacos/Mulch in the crosshairs. So I could see the third scum saying, “There’s no way I make it to the end on my own”. So that third scum is rolling the dice on a hard push with Mulch.

That would be Ethos.

That would explain his play to this point. Because I can’t see how he could be this much of a misguided townie.

Mulch has been nothing but disruptive since his entrance. He pushed Chumba in an attempt to get the heat off of him and now he’s jumped on this argument from Ethos against tchill. Mulch is willing to lynch anyone who isn’t Mulch right now.

And Tchill has a history of reading Mulch correctly about 90% of the time.

Mulch needs to eat rope today and then Ethos tomorrow.

VOTE: Mulch

[Havo]

I am concerned if Mulch is as great as he seems to think he is, he claims to not know what’s going on but at this point I think he knows he should be lynching Fykus, it’s easy enough to click on post links or ISOs to find out and drive your point home

That’s good work Profii

[Havo]

Dudes I really thought Mulch was scum.

Gonna have to pour back through some stuff.

[Havo]

I vote for a mass claim for what it’s worth.

A mislynch today and it’s Lyle tomorrow.

[Havo]

I still think Dunk, Chumba & Tchill are town.

That leaves profii, ethos & Not Mafia.

I could easily see Ethos & NM.

[Havo]

Tchill is more familiar with my meta on this site than havo is. But havo claims to be town reading me off some meta thing.

I honestly have no clue who is scum

Ok, well you need to focus then.

I’ve seen what you can do, so do some of it.

[Havo]

Still not claiming

Claim or eat rope. U got 30 minutes.

[Havo]

well i just gave him plenty to comment on.

Yeah and he’s not commenting.

[Havo]

if you care about town so much you can answer a few simple questions.

if not you can take the blame for your mislynch if you are town.

im giving you opportunities to work with me.

[Havo]

I'll answer them once Tchill answers mine

LMAO.

VOTE: Not Mafia

[Havo]

See ya in the dead thread.

[Havo]

Oh there's 7, well congrats on quicklynching a PR because he didn't a mass claim that made no sense. Lynch Dunk tomorrow, his interaction with me made no sense if he's town and he just latching on to misguided townies by putting them in leadership positions they have no claim to

If u are the doc who did u protect?

[Havo]

Once again you're increase in activity after the lynch shows your true motivation.

Bingo.

We got this.

[Havo]

I’m VT.

The forced claim on Not Mafia was not stupid AF.

Had he claimed we wouldn’t have lynched him. Sure he might have died last nite but we would have had a much better shot at lynching scum yesterday.

In over 100 games of forum mafia I’ve never seen the town Doc go down with the ship like that.
He wasn’t playing the game. That’s why he got lynched. I wouldn’t have believed his claim today.

Yesterday should have been the mass claim. No doubt about it.

I want to hear from Dunk and Tchill before I go much farther.

[Havo]

scum = dunker & Tchill for me.

I want a mass claim though complete with actions before anyone places any votes.

Why am I not scum?

[Havo]

I feel really good about this btw.

[Havo]

I'm a believer. I really want to hear from eth0s

[Havo]

Quickly checking in I’ll pick up on some specific observations later when I have more time.

My first impression of day 2 is that everyone seems to have focussed on the boon-drama, this is a fairly natural thing to do I think but he was VT so although he appears to be a well regarded player on this site, I’m wary about considering he’s reads super locked on and wonder if the scum have used the natural drama focus to cast shade early

It concerns me that no one has mentioned Nero so far.

I agree some slots need to engage, so just to that effect for now
VOTE: eth0s

boon spewed nero town so i'm not surprised he died tbh

i mean i don't know why scum didn't kill me but im not complaining
speaking of which ^

i have reasons to think lycan isn't scum so he is one of my top townreads

.

Can u explain this? What reasons were you referring too?

[Havo]

And now we wait...

Yep

[Havo]

So everyone is a PR? Lol

Yeah right.

[Havo]

I’ll be pointing out a few things later today. I’m at work atm.

[Havo]

argh wait. If I am doubting dunkers claim, there is nothing to say they actually have a ninja

“O, what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!”

[Havo]

Here’s why I believe Ethos is scum.

Things scum say to try and look townie. These are not natural, they are forced because he wants to give the appearance of a town player.

Not getting any clear reads so I will vote based off of what is evident. Havo hammered a townie. I know he warned us that he would, but still.

That's not a half bad way for a scum to get a fast d1

and excuse himself for picking off town.

VOTE: Havo

His very next post.

VOTE: taco

Stupid boon trying to distract me from lynching scum

i dont like this post though sounds very scummy, and the next post of "stop buddying me" sounds forced.

Oh yeah, and I agree with this ^ . I just don't see the point of a

town

saying what Chumba said there.

This shows he’s very aware of perceptions of town posts and not town posts.

why are we voting him exactly?

And this one is the one that set off my scumdar. -

Why not?

Idk I just thought we would be a bit more methodical. If you all want to wagon him then go ahead but I would like to be a little more sure before I vote.

Another mislynch+NK means our scum lynch yesterday won't mean nearly as much.

If anyone wants to actually make a case against him then I'm all ears.

mulch/dunker/profii have most of my attention currently.

The AtE bullshit isn't helping anything

What's scummy is the fact that I tried to stop him from being lynched yet you contributed to killing a VT and somehow I am still supposed to look more suspicious than you because "he didnt answer mah question hurr durr"

More to come .......

[Havo]

Ethos refusing to claim as a 1sBP. I don’t even consider that a PR.

The excuse that he was worried he’d lose his power by claiming at this point is lol.

Scum don’t like claiming because it locks them down. They have less wiggle room afterwards.
Ethos waited til the last possible moment to claim. And only AFTER everyone else had done so.

[Havo]

I think Profi has played a hell of a game for the most part. Hats off to him.

Buy I HATE his claim. I don’t see JK in this game. I hate how he claimed VT first. Then after all the claims came out with JK.

Tchill lied about being a VT also but his claim was backed up very nicely.

Also remember this -

I got town tells on Chumba and Tchill early that I’d rather not divulge, but I’m not voting either one anytime soon.

[Havo]

What about this?

Wouldn’t Dunk get the same No result if he was roleblocked?

Would make sense why he’s still alive. Scum simply role blocked him

And kept him alive to create doubt.

[Havo]

What about this?

Wouldn’t Dunk get the same No result if he was roleblocked?

Would make sense why he’s still alive. Scum simply role blocked him

And kept him alive to create doubt.

This seems like scum who has spotted that tchill will vote for me and appealing to Dunkers to make it 3

Like I said, Profi you’ve played a really good game and I look forward to playing with you in the future.

But the jig is up. U scum.

[Havo]

That’s just another sign you’re scum. Dude.

If you were town and you’re wrong u lose.

[Havo]

Your vote should be on ETHOS.

[Havo]

Lol @ Ethos straight up calling Profi a liar but .............

Voting someone else.

[Havo]

Lol @ Ethos straight up calling Profi a liar but .............

Voting someone else.

lol @ you contributing nothing to this game the entire time and somehow getting away with it.

Ahh u sound bitter. Lol.

Well let’s see, I lynched scum Fykus. Was the first on him.

And you have lynched ?????

[Havo]

You guys played really well right up until the last few pages. Fwiw.

[Havo]

Lol @ Ethos straight up calling Profi a liar but .............

Voting someone else.

lol @ you contributing nothing to this game the entire time and somehow getting away with it.

Actually now that I think about it, the entire reason you hammered so fast on d1 was that it was "boring". Then you hardly even participated in anything the rest of the game except lynching 3 townies and a scum. No thought-provoking discussion that I can remember. That seems kinda boring, too, huh?

UNVOTE:

Need to read havo's iso

WHY haven’t you already?

Your willing to place a vote in LyLo, but admittedly haven’t read My ISO yet?

Lmao. Keep digging that hole.

[Havo]

Lol @ Ethos straight up calling Profi a liar but .............

Voting someone else.

lol @ you contributing nothing to this game the entire time and somehow getting away with it.

Actually now that I think about it, the entire reason you hammered so fast on d1 was that it was "boring". Then you hardly even participated in anything the rest of the game except lynching 3 townies and a scum. No thought-provoking discussion that I can remember. That seems kinda boring, too, huh?

UNVOTE:

Need to read havo's iso

[quote="In post 800,

WHY haven’t you already?

Your willing to place a vote in LyLo, but admittedly haven’t read My ISO yet?

Lmao. Keep digging that hole.

I skimmed it when I woke up but I think I would remember if you had posted one single thing of value this entire game (you didn't)

So this had no value?

VOTE: Fykus

[Havo]

Lol @ Ethos straight up calling Profi a liar but .............

Voting someone else.

lol @ you contributing nothing to this game the entire time and somehow getting away with it.

Actually now that I think about it, the entire reason you hammered so fast on d1 was that it was "boring". Then you hardly even participated in anything the rest of the game except lynching 3 townies and a scum. No thought-provoking discussion that I can remember. That seems kinda boring, too, huh?

UNVOTE:

Need to read havo's iso

WHY haven’t you already?

Your willing to place a vote in LyLo, but admittedly haven’t read My ISO yet?

Lmao. Keep digging that hole.

I skimmed it when I woke up but I think I would remember if you had posted one single thing of value this entire game (you didn't)

Come on dude. If you were town you don’t throw down a vote in LyLo unless you’re sure.

You voted Tchill and had only skimmed my ISO?

You have brought up me hammering on several occasions, but yet only skimmed my ISO when the game is on the line?

[Havo]

Just keep posting Ethos. Please.

[Havo]

VOTE: profi

[Havo]

Sorry town.

GG scum team.

I was convinced Dunk was town Profi.

There was nothing u could dude to change my mind.

I knew Ethos was scum but Dunk sold me.

[Havo]

TBF chumba, Mulch likes to play as scum more than he does town. Players like him hare intentionally blending their town/scum play to make themselves hard to read. I don't really blame Mulch or Boon for this game but I wouldn't say either were real helpful.

People on this site have been doing it for years. I’ve definitely called it out. I’ll just be avoiding those people.

I’m actually more mad at not mafia. Mulch I knew what I was getting. NM flat out didn’t play the game

Yeah if he had claimed I would’ve unvoted. No way I’m lynching claimed doc.

And sure he would have been night killed, but it would have saved a lynch.

I would have moved hard on Ethos at that point and we might have been able to lynch him.

[Havo]

I’ll never trust a boon read again

And I’ll. Ever trust Dunk again. Lol