Mini 734 - GrimMafia - OVER

[Zachrulez]

Alright.

Vote ectomancer.

Let's lynch him and call it a day.

A call for a lynch on page one is good enough for my vote at this point I think...

Vote: Springlullaby

[Nuwen]

@Ecto: IF your vote wasn't random, then what was it?

Yes, what was it?

Vote: Ectomancer

[Zer0ph34r]

"Bleeding out"? WTF does that even mean, Beyond_Birthday?

[Ectomancer]

What just happened?

Vote: Ectomancer

You have no idea what happened, yet you decide to vote.

@Ecto: IF your vote wasn't random, then what was it?

Yes, what was it?

Vote: Ectomancer

"Yes what was it", is the cause for your vote? It doesn't appear random to me.


You may have heard people espouse that "random voting has information" when the argument comes up over whether a random voting stage should even exist. This is one of those cases where a pro-random vote stage gets a point.

Vote: Beyond_Birthday

Because he's the only player I'm familiar with.

Here is what I had to say about that.

vote Zachrulez

because he would prefer to play in a game of strangers and seems to fear what Beyond_Birthday might see.

Zachrulez, of all the people to choose from, decided to vote Beyond_Birthday and stated his reason. He was familiar with him. In my experience a room full of strangers is certainly easier to get away with lies than with a room full of people who know you.
I can't remember the game number, but IRC I NK'd SlySly as scum because we know each other in real life, and I knew he would see through the plans I had for the game.

This is certainly not something you want to go all the way to lynch with without examining the players subsequent actions, but it is certainly far removed from a random stage.

To be honest, I am now far more concerned with the two players that i quoted above. I'm also a believer that you gain more information from the reactions to a move out of the random stage than you actually get out of the target of your pressure.

[Ectomancer]

Of the two, this one concerns me more:

zwetschenwasser wrote:
What just happened?

Vote: Ectomancer


You have no idea what happened, yet you decide to vote.

unvote, vote zwetschenwasser

[springlullaby]

Vote ectomancer

My vote is not random either.

[Ectomancer]

Interesting. Except for

maybe

Zer0ph34r ,and Im not certain there, you are the only player that I'm familiar with...

[Beyond_Birthday]

"Bleeding out"? WTF does that even mean, Beyond_Birthday?

I cut your wrists in the pre voting game. How do you not pay attention?

@Ecto:...
That actually makes sense.

Unvote

Big fat meaningless FoS: Your post and vote seems unwarranted given that he has explained, rather logically, why he voted Zach.

[JereIC]

I thought Ecto had some sort of mad-genius scheme going with his first vote, but now it looks like the only reason he voted for Zach in the beginning was because he took Zach's random vote reason at face value. I'm not really buying the case that scum try to kill the people they've played with before. They may know you better, but you know them as well, so it might be easier to manipulate them.

Unvote

I do want to see how zwet and Nuwen respond to Ecto's argument.

Springlullaby's "call it a day" post was odd and possibly a joke. However, her current vote feels scummy because she implies there's a reason without actually stating it. I also think it's reckless to put a third vote on a person without

anyone

giving a rationale.

Vote: springlullaby

[JereIC]

Unvote

Just realized that was the 4th vote on spring, thought it was the 3rd. i r gud at math.

FOS: Springlullaby, though

[Beyond_Birthday]

EBWOP

"Bleeding out"? WTF does that even mean, Beyond_Birthday?

I cut your wrists in the pre voting game. How do you not pay attention?

@Ecto:...
That actually makes sense.

Unvote

Big fat meaningless FoS Spring: Your post and vote seems unwarranted given that he has explained, rather logically, why he voted Zach.

[Zer0ph34r]

ectomancer, how do i seem familiar? i've never been in a game with you.

[Ectomancer]

I've seen your name. You post in mafia discussion a bit? I check there from time to time. Like I said, I was unsure.

[Zer0ph34r]

Oh, I see. And, Beyond_Birthday, I remember the wrist slitting, but is that some type of term I've never heard of or were you just trying to make me mad or what?

[springlullaby]

Interesting. Except for

maybe

Zer0ph34r ,and Im not certain there, you are the only player that I'm familiar with...

Don't want to ask why my vote is not random?

Prefer to cast soft doubt on me instead?

[springlullaby]

Unvote

Just realized that was the 4th vote on spring, thought it was the 3rd. i r gud at math.

FOS: Springlullaby, though

FOS JereIC

Why pussy out of voting me?

What is the difference between being the third and the fourth on a wagon?

[Ectomancer]

Interesting. Except for

maybe

Zer0ph34r ,and Im not certain there, you are the only player that I'm familiar with...

Don't want to ask why my vote is not random?

Prefer to cast soft doubt on me instead?

Nope, I figured I would wait and see how these others reacted to your vote. I would ask later, but now is too early to spoil the game by asking you directly.

Is your vote without reason anything but soft doubt? Let's not be hypocritical.

[Beyond_Birthday]

Oh, I see. And, Beyond_Birthday, I remember the wrist slitting, but is that some type of term I've never heard of or were you just trying to make me mad or what?

Read up on my name. I treat this game half like role playing. *Beyond_Birthday is a Serial Killer who knows the time of death of everyone except himself... does he commit the crimes himself or has fate condemned the victims to die no matter what?

Anyway:
Spring, your vote seems delayed or behind. Granted your later posts, it does not appear to be that way. So, I am suspicious of you.

[Skillit]

vote: Sipylus

because its his birthday, hes from down under, and, again, because. thats why

[JereIC]

FOS JereIC

Why pussy out of voting me?

What is the difference between being the third and the fourth on a wagon?

I'm not comfortable putting anybody over halfway to a lynch unless I intend to actually lynch them. Right now I just want an explanation. Why are you voting for Ectomancer?

[springlullaby]

Interesting. Except for

maybe

Zer0ph34r ,and Im not certain there, you are the only player that I'm familiar with...

Don't want to ask why my vote is not random?

Prefer to cast soft doubt on me instead?

Nope, I figured I would wait and see how these others reacted to your vote. I would ask later, but now is too early to spoil the game by asking you directly.

Is your vote without reason anything but soft doubt? Let's not be hypocritical.

Good comeback I think. Though the emphasis in my last was not on the 'soft doubt' part. But rather that you choose to suggest that my vote was scummy over asking me why I voted you. But I suppose your reply covers it.

[springlullaby]

FOS JereIC

Why pussy out of voting me?

What is the difference between being the third and the fourth on a wagon?

I'm not comfortable putting anybody over halfway to a lynch unless I intend to actually lynch them. Right now I just want an explanation. Why are you voting for Ectomancer?

I'm voting Ectomancer now because in the recent game I shared with him and in which he was town he was it seems to me more talk, less vote at this stage of the game. But you know what, I've decide to let that rest for now, and let him do his thing

My first vote on him was random, and the jest was jest.

[Nuwen]

"Yes what was it", is the cause for your vote? It doesn't appear random to me.

I was echoing Beyond_Birthday's question - if your vote wasn't random, then what was the reasoning behind it?

Random voting is always a good beginning; how else does an uninformed majority ease into finding an informed minority?

[Ectomancer]

vote: Sipylus

because its his birthday, hes from down under, and, again, because. thats why

What the hell is this? Random stage voting? We were out of that stage at my first post.

vote Skillit

[Ectomancer]

unvote, vote Skillit