In post 73, Dwlee99 wrote:Is being an asshole a scum tell? Can someone tell me?
I find it usually to be the opposite, although I hate to hand out reads for that because I don't want to encourage people to annoy me.
In post 73, Dwlee99 wrote:Is being an asshole a scum tell? Can someone tell me?
In post 68, Dwlee99 wrote:I don't understand how it's manipulating. I was just quoting the specific part that I wanted to respond to. Like right here I wanted to cut out the last half of your post because it's not what I'm responding to. But I didn't just so I don't bother people when I don't need to.
In post 37, mykonian wrote:Garmr already committed a scumtell trying to call someone town. There's no need for the word "honestly" there, it only makes sense from a point where scum is trying to think like town. The word "honestly" implies that he comes from a setting where he was prepared to lie this game, then found a situation where it wasn't necessary.
In post 76, Hieirama wrote:Calling Dwlee worthless because he didn't agree with your reads was a terrible move, though.
In post 78, herrcombs wrote:In post 68, Dwlee99 wrote:I don't understand how it's manipulating. I was just quoting the specific part that I wanted to respond to. Like right here I wanted to cut out the last half of your post because it's not what I'm responding to. But I didn't just so I don't bother people when I don't need to.
Ok yeah fair enough, I suppose it's not manipulation to crop out the stuff about the "buddying," since it was a separate thought and not necessarily relevant. But I still think that the first sentence (the one you quoted) was leading into mykonian's argument:
In post 37, mykonian wrote:Garmr already committed a scumtell trying to call someone town. There's no need for the word "honestly" there, it only makes sense from a point where scum is trying to think like town. The word "honestly" implies that he comes from a setting where he was prepared to lie this game, then found a situation where it wasn't necessary.
The manipulation is you implying the scum tell was "saying he doesn't see anything scummy," where myko was arguing it was a scum tell for the way he used the term "honestly" and what it could mean psychologically. You clipped myko's quote in a way that didn't represent what he was trying to say, and then sarcastically dismissed it. That is manipulation.
In post 80, herrcombs wrote:I don't know what to make of Hieirama's page 4 read list there.
In post 72, Garmr wrote:Also what's this bs about calling someone town. I said I don't see anything scummy yet.
In post 20, mykonian wrote:In post 18, herrcombs wrote:lolwut
I was just joking
but now that scumslip. This is actually interesting.
In post 87, Dwlee99 wrote:So many people have weak reasons for being on the mykonian wagon.
In post 80, herrcombs wrote:He asked me a question. I was responding to his question.
I don't know what to make of Hieirama's page 4 read list there. Especially since they're blatantly getting things wrong already:
In post 76, Hieirama wrote:Calling Dwlee worthless because he didn't agree with your reads was a terrible move, though.
That is not why myko called Dwlee worthless. Still, the effort to be transparent seems more town oriented than scum, and I like how they're starting to ask a few questions.
One thing real quick though, Hieirama: You should try to avoid putting votes/unvotes in spoiler tags. The mod mentioned at the beginning they won't be counted if you do that.
And a question for you Hieirama, since it looks like your account is fairly new: how much prior mafia experience do you have?
In post 79, mykonian wrote:yes herr that's nice and all.
we just had a page 4 player by player analysis by a player that doesn't understand the pace of the game and moreover is confused by it. I think there's more important stuff to talk about than dwlee's mess.
In post 81, Dwlee99 wrote:
So my read on implosion was 100% serious and I think he is town (I cited the reason of his aggressiveness and getting the game out of RVS)
The read on BBT was a joke but the posts that he made afterwards give me a town vibe from him.
In post 78, herrcombs wrote:In post 68, Dwlee99 wrote:I don't understand how it's manipulating. I was just quoting the specific part that I wanted to respond to. Like right here I wanted to cut out the last half of your post because it's not what I'm responding to. But I didn't just so I don't bother people when I don't need to.
Ok yeah fair enough, I suppose it's not manipulation to crop out the stuff about the "buddying," since it was a separate thought and not necessarily relevant. But I still think that the first sentence (the one you quoted) was leading into mykonian's argument:
In post 37, mykonian wrote:Garmr already committed a scumtell trying to call someone town. There's no need for the word "honestly" there, it only makes sense from a point where scum is trying to think like town. The word "honestly" implies that he comes from a setting where he was prepared to lie this game, then found a situation where it wasn't necessary.
The manipulation is you implying the scum tell was "saying he doesn't see anything scummy," where myko was arguing it was a scum tell for the way he used the term "honestly" and what it could mean psychologically. You clipped myko's quote in a way that didn't represent what he was trying to say, and then sarcastically dismissed it. That is manipulation.
I've made my thoughts fairly clear regarding the "honestly" thing. So I quoted the other part of the argument to tackle that point. RIP my organization by cropping. (Still did it in the quote above hahah git rikt)
In post 90, Dwlee99 wrote:To 88: Garmr, myko is null for me atm. He's playing aggressively and stimulating conversation but his reads are stretched.
To 89: Thought I'd lay a BBT town read out there because it would generate something to talk about (which it did) and allow me to get reads. The implosion read was used to talk outloud and make people not just dismiss my post as "random reads that make no sense" which caused people to comment seriously on it.
In post 94, Dwlee99 wrote:If I don't attack the wagon when are people gonna actually give more reasons for it than stretched reads? The wagon just allows scum to hide by joining under the same reasons as everyone else. I need more from people than "Reads are stretched" when joining a wagon. I could also sit here and argue that stretching reads can be town trying to figure out the game.
In post 74, mykonian wrote:well garmr sucks
vote garmr
herr's 67 seems town. He doesn't look particulary devious either. Probably should go on the townlist then.
In post 85, mykonian wrote:"so he was in effect defending me."
"trying to call someone town"
I did that from memory, didn't use exact quotes. Effect is the same, conclusions as well.
Since when did I call dw worthless for just omgus? I was quite thorough with that insult. If he's town there was no reason to reply to my post as he did. If he's scum that omgus was pretty poor for him. All in all, he's made two actions now that make him shit regardless of role.
regarding my vote, I don't really care. Could have put it down at the first time garmr looked scum, did it at the second time. His vote was by far the worst of the bunch and it was about time scum joined my wagon. Just compare feli's vote to garmr's and tell me you can't see the difference. Your play is fine. His isn't.
That's 2 scum for now, I think I'm happy with that. Night, people.
In post 96, Garmr wrote:Also you should quit before you burn youself if there's a wagon between you and me your the one getting lynched.
In post 45, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 37, mykonian wrote:Garmr already committed a scumtell trying to call someone town. There's no need for the word "honestly" there, it only makes sense from a point where scum is trying to think like town. The word "honestly" implies that he comes from a setting where he was prepared to lie this game, then found a situation where it wasn't necessary. Add to this that he'sstepping in to protect someone from an accusationand that little sentence becomes quite damning.Buddying and at the same timeshowing off his mindset is scummy.
So dwlee, are we out of rvs?
Gamr didn't call anyone/someone town though:
We were in RVS:who is the "someone" you think he called town/was trying to buddy up with/stepping in to protect?