Mini 1733: Jurassic Monkey - game over


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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:59 am

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Archmage made one post, I looked over the backlogs myself, and yep, I'm mostly convinced.
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:11 am

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Pistacion day 1 - She throws around some questions. Immediately discredits the possible townslip of archmage. Vote on mario with hypocritical reasoning. Interesting vote on archmage. What looks like chainsaw defense of davsto. Scum reads all-alone because she is being hypocritical about how pistacion is doing nothing, which is odd because they were both slacking day 1.

Day 1 pistacion has no interaction with davsto at all and very little interaction with wanderer.

Pistacion day 2 - Immediately sheeps alchemist on all alone, which lines up with her ideals of the previous day. Leaves a null read on scorpious. Sheeps alchemist again to vote for mario, who frankly wasn't even that scummy and was being voted for reasons similar to why pistacion was scummy.

Not very much activity, but there was some interaction with wanderer here, albeit, seeming a bit forced. Lot's of sheeping and not a lot of strong stances.

Pistacion day 3 - Opens up answering syndesis's question, stating that scum wouldn't have a particular distribution across the two wagons, which is odd because that's usually something scum focus on. Not much else happens except she immediately doubts scorpious's claim, which most players did.

Pistacion day 4 - Comes out of the gate doubting alchemist's role. Seems very odd considering alchemist has been pistacion's
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townread throughout the entire game. She throws in some statements that basically leaves her at null about the claim. Looks like not wanting to take a stance.

Pistacion day 5 - Pushes my lynch this day, which if that would have happened would have ended the game. Just seems peculiar to me that she could think wanderer is scummy, yet want to pursue me more that day. Maybe scum wanting to win the game that day?

Pistacion day 6 - Very odd behavior. She doesn't seem very committed to finding out who the last scum is, but more of swaying between archmage and I.

Archmage day 1 - Very early reads list out. Intrigues me because I don't usually see scum throw out reads that quickly, even if they weren't very strong. Decent amount of interaction with wanderer and an early scumread on davsto. A little bit more interaction with players then an awkward unvote on davsto. He revotes davsto later.

There is a good bit of interaction with wanderer and archmage, which is more of a good sign I'd say.

Archmage day 2 - A lot of focus on scorpious lynch. He does not really say much about mario. At that point, I thought the scorpious lynch was better then the mario lynch. I thought the mario lynch was terrible.

Archmage day 3 - Most of the day is archmage back and forth with wanderer. He made a case for wanderer scum. Afterwards, he admits that All Alone would be dangerous as scum.

Archmage day 4 - The first part is him spending debating Ice's cop play and who he may have copped. He puts an either or on wanderer and alchemist, which I could relate to at that point in the game. The only odd thing I find about this day is that wanderer hammered soon after archmage placed his vote and response to my post, which could have been to cut off discussion; however, this could also be the case with a scum pistacion.

Archmage day 5 - He is very open about who the scum might be this day. Doesn't end up voting wanderer, but might have if she had not self hammered.

Archmage day 6 - This is where things really got interesting. I figured that if archmage was scum, he would immediately go after me this day. After all, pistacion was ready to vote me over wanderer the previous game day, so all archmage scum would have to do is go after me this day and he would have won, but instead he takes a very conservative approach to the day, which I see coming from a town archmage.

Overall - Pistacion has some good play day 1, but many of her votes are bandwagon or hypocritical for the rest of the game. She plays most of the game hanging in the shadows it seems, with only giving a few reads at a time. Archmage is a lot more open with reads. His day 1 play was okay, but his play the following days reflect town to me. I'm leaning pistacion right now, but I need to 100% sure before I vote.

@Pistacion -

1. Why have you been reserved when giving out reads this game?

2. Why do you think archmage would open this game very open about who his reads if he was scum?

3. Why did your read on alchemist change so quickly?

@Archmage -

1. Do you think passive (pistacion's play) vs active (my play) is alignment indicative? Or do you think it has more to do with the stance the player takes?

2. Why did you unvote davsto day 1?

3. Why did you not believe alchemist's claim?
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:12 am

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In post 1100, pistachi0n wrote:Archmage made one post, I looked over the backlogs myself, and yep, I'm mostly convinced.


Could you elaborate more on this?
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:06 am

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In post 1101, 3dicerolling wrote:1. Why have you been reserved when giving out reads this game?


Because that's how I play. Especially day 1.

In post 1101, 3dicerolling wrote:2. Why do you think archmage would open this game very open about who his reads if he was scum

To look town.

In post 1101, 3dicerolling wrote:3. Why did your read on alchemist change so quickly?


Some grains of suspicion grew when he claimed universal backup and then it was POE.
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:08 am

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In post 1102, 3dicerolling wrote:
In post 1100, pistachi0n wrote:Archmage made one post, I looked over the backlogs myself, and yep, I'm mostly convinced.


Could you elaborate more on this?


I forgot about how much Archmage was pushing on Davsto when there was no reason to do so. He was scumreading Davsto way before it was cool, if they were both scum it would have put unnecessary attention on his buddy.
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:49 am

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In post 1103, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 1101, 3dicerolling wrote:1. Why have you been reserved when giving out reads this game?


Because that's how I play. Especially day 1.

In post 1101, 3dicerolling wrote:2. Why do you think archmage would open this game very open about who his reads if he was scum

To look town.

In post 1101, 3dicerolling wrote:3. Why did your read on alchemist change so quickly?


Some grains of suspicion grew when he claimed universal backup and then it was POE.


1. Could you link me to a game or two?

2. So do you think it was more to look town or a result of him being town?

In post 1104, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 1102, 3dicerolling wrote:
In post 1100, pistachi0n wrote:Archmage made one post, I looked over the backlogs myself, and yep, I'm mostly convinced.


Could you elaborate more on this?


I forgot about how much Archmage was pushing on Davsto when there was no reason to do so. He was scumreading Davsto way before it was cool, if they were both scum it would have put unnecessary attention on his buddy.


Check out post 254 and get back to me.
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:11 am

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Just realized that 3dice wasn't on the mario lynch like I thought he was. I've decided, I'm tired, I'm sick, and I'm committing. If I'm wrong, then 3dice has played well and deserves the victory. I just need this game to be over, so I can stop checking Mafiascum for a while.

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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:13 am

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Not hammering.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:14 am

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Until I can get to my computer, so I don't screw it up. I'm sorry archmage :(

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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:16 am

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That's cool. Don't want you to make your decision on a bad stomach.

Now I don't have any doubt in my vote, though: you're conftown.

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Damn it. GG.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:18 am

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You were really town this game archmage. Sorry I couldn't be town with you :(
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:23 am

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Started to get suspicious when you asked pistach why it took so little to convince her. My town case was pretty good.

I gave in to laziness, though. If I thought it through just a little better... gah.
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:24 am

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GG, anyways. Maybe one time I'll figure out how to play, and we'll have another game together.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:24 am

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And sorry, pistach. I let you down.
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:46 am

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In post 1111, The Archmage Ludicrous wrote:Started to get suspicious when you asked pistach why it took so little to convince her. My town case was pretty good.

I gave in to laziness, though. If I thought it through just a little better... gah.


Which is interesting because that is something I would've called out as town. :/

Honestly, the blame isn't to fall entirely on you. The Mario lynch was abysmal in itself, and there was a lot of trouble with setup spec this game.
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:24 pm

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Setup was seriously questionable. You were either a Godfather or a Lawyer, right?
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:27 pm

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I'll leave that honor to farside :)
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:16 pm

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Well that was fast.
Scum monky's win!!
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:18 pm

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Gg everyone!

So has Monkey ever come back?

Scum played really well to win given how Town-sided the setup was.
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:19 pm

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Sorry I have been busy with Christmas shopping and planing for guest.

This game was really hard for many people and I'm sorry many were mad at the set up and how it went.
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In post 1118, Alchemist21 wrote:Gg everyone!

So has Monkey ever come back?

Scum played really well to win given how Town-sided the setup was.



Not that I ever heard.

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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:20 pm

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So did Mafia even have a Godfather or was a neighborizer all they got?
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:28 pm

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In post 1121, Alchemist21 wrote:So did Mafia even have a Godfather or was a neighborizer all they got?



1.9.Syndesis - Innocent Child
2.1.Scorpious - Commuter
3.13.Diego1487 - Universal Backup
4.7.ICEninja - Ninja Cop

5.3.The Archmage Ludicrous - VT
6.5.All Alone - VT
7.12.Firebringer - VT
8.6.MarioManiac4 - VT
9.4.pistachi0n - VT

11.2.Wanderer-nl - Mafia Neighborizer
12.10.3dicerolling - Mafia Godfather
13.11.Davsto - Mafia Goon
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:30 pm

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Wanderer was only one-shot
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The irritating truth of trying to find the doctor that wasn't there. :/
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