Mini 1758: Game Over

[a plain farmer]

Thanks for modding, Performer. The revelation of a 3rd mason was a shocking twist.

I was starting to get worried near the end that I had gone too far into propaganda-mode and that tictac would think I was being a used-car salesman. But I was getting antsy.

I fell hard for camn in the first two days. Looking at the Mason PT it's astonishing how incriminating my associations with her looked.

[a plain farmer]

This was not a good game for me.

Yeah, it was rough. But it was nice having you in the thread. And your squirms on D1 were entertaining.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ha ha.. Good game town. I thought I

distanced

hard enough, but nope.

You bussed no one

[camn]

I fell hard for camn in the first two days

That happens to everyone

[tictac]

Yeah, thanks for modding Performer. The setup was really neat.

I was starting to get worried near the end that I had gone too far into propaganda-mode and that tictac would think I was being a used-car salesman. But I was getting antsy.

Nah. I've been in the situation of having to convince the conftown at LYLO.
The difference between town and scum kinda disappears when a townie joins the informed majority. Kinda sucks having to change tracks like that.
I'm definitely in favour of pulling out everything and the kitchen sink in order to get the other guy lynched.

As side note, I was impressed by the way you argued against my various pushes throughout the game, to the point that I was worried you could probably talk me into anything you liked if you were scum.

I fell hard for camn in the first two days. Looking at the Mason PT it's astonishing how incriminating my associations with her looked.

It happens. I actually counted 992 as a townpoint for you.
It was the suddenness and strength of your switch to CKD after kinda ignoring the case on him that I found suspicious about you.

[Zulfy]

Gr8 game Perf

[Lokiben]

Having read the other PTs, a few things I want to respond to:

@Performer Dropping a wall every day or so is my usual posting style, since there's only a few hours every day in the late afternoon when I feel comfortable sitting down and drafting one up. I make brief posts from mobile sometimes, but I find it a pain to draft anything substantive. I never realized my posting style was 'not town-friendly' for the town. I also think that this site has a slightly different definition of lurking than what I'm used to. C'est la vie.

-I lost some sleep over that last kill, wondering if I made the right choice. Even with hindsight, I still don't understand why apf should have been the obvious pick. Both he and PK had voiced mild suspicion of me, and milder suspicion of tictac.

In the event I die tonight and you're in LyLo tomorrow, I'll give some thoughts on those remaining. From town to scum, I'd rank them:

pisskop
tictac
Lokiben

But I'm not too confident about this.

I don't like pisskop's hammer, and his predecessor in that slot was scummy. But pisskop hasn't given me much reason to scumread him, and I doubt players as experienced as him and CKD would, as scumpartners, put themselves together on my wagon in D4. Don't overstate these things as townreads though. Pisskop's hammer today may be scummy, but I also don't like the way Zulfy got up to L-1 in the first place.

CKD said this weird thing about tictac being sure scum if SirCakez ended up being scum, which a scumpartner might've done to try and clear him by association when Cakez flipped town. But then CKD wagoned tictac immediately at the start of D4, so I dunno. But the way their mutual scumreads on each other fizzled out on D4 pings me.

Loki has been keeping a low profile and staying off the wagons CKD and camn were on, and there's the thing I mentioned about post 333. I was in the midst of looking over him as writing this but I wanted to make sure this got out before the mod scene.

loki is my backup choice.

If its a binary descision between tictac and loki guess where Id go?

I thought I could pander to apf's suspicions of tictac for the win, but pisskop never really elaborated on why he was scumreading tictac and I didn't know how I'd approach it. Plus I was vaguely aware that PK was an established player and apf wasn't (I played in one of PK's newbie games).

God that slip

Yeah I saw it too

I didn't. What'd I do?

I feel like his push on you was more storytelling than actual scumhunting.

Felt like he put you into a box labelled scum and looked for reasons to do so rather than any genuine thought process.

RC pretty much nailed my mentality. I was just experimenting and was surprised at the success of my Elyse attack. I'm not saying it's the way I'd play, but I understand why she didn't feel the need to give a serious defense. She could confirm herself with the flick of a wrist, so she might as well have focused on scumhunting instead.

I bear no real ill will towards you, Elyse; it was all an act. I will say that your unwillingness to admit fault did make my job a little easier, though.

Sorry to camn and ckd for letting them down. I felt as if I was flailing a little on that last day, since I wasn't very prepared for pushing on apf. Wish I could have pulled the final three off, but reading the PTs it seems my fate was already more or less sealed going into the last day, and that's comforting, sort of.

Big thanks to the mods, especially Performer, and the players too for a great game! I hope to see all of you again.

[Cheery Dog]

This was the post I was labeling as a slip. It just wasn't a town reaction in my view

Since 36 minutes ago? Just general exasperation and frustration. I'd rather convince farmer to vote you, but he's unwilling to engage me so bah. I guess I should be investigating him anyway in case my conviction in your flip is hurt by confirmation bias.

[Lokiben]

This was the post I was labeling as a slip. It just wasn't a town reaction in my view

Since 36 minutes ago? Just general exasperation and frustration. I'd rather convince farmer to vote you, but he's unwilling to engage me so bah. I guess I should be investigating him anyway in case my conviction in your flip is hurt by confirmation bias.

Oh, should have figured. About the brain fart here, I did understand in advance the significance of tictac posting without voting, but the fact that it slipped my mind probably means that this really was a slip.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, I feel there should be some protocol in place for stalemates. Cheery Dog's suggestion in the mod chat, in which a stalemate is a scum loss, seems fair. Objectively, I had literally no incentive to kill and I only killed PK for the sake of the game.

[pisskop]

Thats a controversial thing, but typically everyone lives happily ever after.

[Lokiben]

If you say so.

[pisskop]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ever_after

[pisskop]

Just imagine I made some derisive remark along with that

[Lokiben]

If you say so.

Poor choice of words. I'm just surprised its so open ended.

[a plain farmer]

Nice job, pk, on replacing in and making your slot townier. I can't point to anything in particular, but something about your posts just made me gut read you as town.

[Performer]

Glad you guys enjoyed it! When I moderate games, I try to think of unconventional setups. With this setup, it was too risky (in terms of balance) to add an extra PR for either faction, so I kept it simple yet unconventional.

It was a blast to keep up with the scum, Mason, and dead PTs too. Huge thanks to Cheery for Backup moderating.

[pisskop]

ty.

performer, you done did good. got another one?

[camn]

I do. Mini theme queue. Next.

[Zulfy]

Hey I'll have a game up too someday.

Yall feel free to pre in if you want

[Performer]

ty.

performer, you done did good. got another one?

Not at the moment. Have been very busy. I'll see you in the Large Game though!

@camn & Zulfy: pre-in me!

[camn]

Done.

[N]