Mini Normal 1797 Probably Not Actually Normal Mafia [GG]

[Firebringer]

The troll game was pretty fun, but people taking it seriously was killing the mood for me.
lol.

[Nahdia]

oh funny story. i was actually gonna claim serial killer on d3 if you were about to hammer me (that's why i said give me a chance to claim). logically you wouldn't have been able to lynch me since the team mafia would be a bigger threat.

[callforjudgement]

One thing I noticed when reviewing this setup is that 2:1:1 is actually a three-faction draw, rather than the typically acknowledged town win. I had to wait for the game to be over to update the page, but it's been done now.

I know I was fairly vocal in the review thread about what I thought of the setup. Glad to see that it worked out in the end.

(Also, crosskills tend to come late in multiball setups. I'm not sure if there's a theory reason for this, or it's just a case of scum feeling more threatened by town early, and more threatened by other scum later once the town is weaker from all the kills targeted at them.)

[callforjudgement]

(That is to say, sorry for anyone who was relying on the Dilemma page for strategy advice; I see that it got linked at one point. Luckily in the end, I don't think it mattered.)

[Firebringer]

(Also, crosskills tend to come late in multiball setups. I'm not sure if there's a theory reason for this, or it's just a case of scum feeling more threatened by town early, and more threatened by other scum later once the town is weaker from all the kills targeted at them.)

That was my theory on kills, which is why I went for cooldgo, because I thought he was WW, and I didn't want that scum faction having majority. I didn't suspect there was only 2 of them though.

Meh.

I took this game more seriously than I should, but I enjoyed it when I wasn't.
That flash wagon on me doe. >.>

[Nahdia]

(That is to say, sorry for anyone who was relying on the Dilemma page for strategy advice; I see that it got linked at one point. Luckily in the end, I don't think it mattered.)

I'd like to think that had we actually been that situation (as we should have been if I had REMEMBERED TO MAKE MY KILLING ACTION) the idea of no killing would have occurred to me

[Dwlee99]

One thing I noticed when reviewing this setup is that 2:1:1 is actually a three-faction draw, rather than the typically acknowledged town win. I had to wait for the game to be over to update the page, but it's been done now.

how is it a three-faction draw?

[Not_Mafia]

GG, thanks Shea for modding, I enjoyed this game, my scumhunting felt a lot less futile and I had fun even spectating because despite us lynching anti-town each day it was still up in the air who would win

[Nahdia]

One thing I noticed when reviewing this setup is that 2:1:1 is actually a three-faction draw, rather than the typically acknowledged town win. I had to wait for the game to be over to update the page, but it's been done now.

how is it a three-faction draw?

one scum refuses to kill, the other scum can't kill them bc if they do then the town will lynch them.

[Thestatusquo]

Yeah, I got it from a strategy perspective, but there was a double voter. I think it's pretty dubious that a scum double voter could have lived in this setup, so I think it was pretty indefensible to not protect him n1.

[Dwlee99]

Yeah, I got it from a strategy perspective, but there was a double voter. I think it's pretty dubious that a scum double voter could have lived in this setup, so I think it was pretty indefensible to not protect him n1.

I completely forgot about him when thinking about my action tbh

[Nahdia]

better than forgetting to use your action all together ;___;

[Dwlee99]

better than forgetting to use your action all together ;___;

we deserved this win anyway!

[Thestatusquo]

Not mafia was also on point. Two guilty, was able to get the first lynched without claiming, although he died before getting to claim his guilty on nahdia.

I also think if I did it again I wouldn't put a bp on the SK. It makes sense from the perspective of giving the sk a chance to win, but preventing that cross kill is brutal for the town.

I think if I were going to run it back I would probably grant a 1 shot nk immunity to a vanilla townie instead.

[Thestatusquo]

Also, I don't want to gush to much about you guys because it'll get tedious, but in addition to not having to replace anyone for inactivity I don't think I even had to prod anyone. Not even once. You guys are dope.

[Almost50]

Now who killed me? Was it you, Nahdia?

[Nahdia]

Now who killed me? Was it you, Nahdia?

yup. it was kind of on a whim. i looked over Sick's final readslist and he listed you as a scumread even though previously in the day he had you as a townread. thought it might be a last second attempt at distancing. i figured regardless i didn't mind what you flipped

[Almost50]

Good to know

[Thestatusquo]

Mod thread is released

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=66708

Waiting for release permission of various group threads

[MURDERCAT]

I'm really happy and suprised that in a 4 faction game each team had a horse in the race pretty deep in.

[Infinity 324]

This game has to have broken quite a few records.

Good job nahdia, I really thought you were town at the end. Though I didn't read the whole game.

[MURDERCAT]

Also fire, I hate to lynch someone like that but I was never going to believe the jailkeeper claim.

[Killthestory]

disappointed i got replaced out, but Murder did pretty well in my place. game was good, enjoyed it quite a bit while i was playing. thank you for modding

[callforjudgement]

Firebringer definitely had to claim a power role in that situation, I think.

The problem is always just trying to figure out which roles will be believed. (Nahdia's Doctor claim worked out quite well, but wasn't enough.)

[MURDERCAT]

Yeah, he definitely had to, but jailing nahdia didn't make sense.