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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:19 pm

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In post 1996, Derek12 wrote:One-Shot BP
And you never thought about sharing that information, which could shed some light on the setup, even today when I proposed massclaim?

I'm not sure what to think about this claim, it's really fishy to me. You didn't claim VT but I did say I have some info about you and I already softed Neapolitan so hard it was basically a claim (add Eggman pointing it out too) so it was obvious I inspected you.

If if's not obvious, my N1 inspect was Eggman as VT. I went from scumreading him Day 1 to subtly townreading him day 2, then I started to straight up calling him town. My N2 inspect was DGB but it didn't turn out to be relevant.
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:28 pm

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Whoo, we broke 2000 posts.
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:30 am

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In post 1992, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 1959, Titus wrote:I want to lynch Dragon I think.

Lynching group scum is the best scenario but it's like playing with fire. Miss and we certainly lose.
In post 1988, Titus wrote:
In post 1973, Eggman wrote:Alright.
VOTE: Derek
I'll sheep anyone who has a good case. Going with Dragon for now, since I was also sorta scumreading Derek.
VOTE: Derek

Dragon can hammer if he wants.
How did you get from lynch me to sheep me?
Derek just isn't town. I haven't had time to articulate on it but they just aren't.
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:31 am

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In post 1996, Derek12 wrote:One-Shot BP
Then why the lurking?
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:34 am

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Derek is likely a mafia. His play style is little to no content. When run up, he fakes BP (or real claims) BP. He should be trying to take bullets if town, yet he's lurking. Mafia having a BP makes sense. So does the SK faking BP.
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:40 am

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In post 2000, F-oh-ex wrote:
In post 1996, Derek12 wrote:One-Shot BP
I already softed Neapolitan so hard it was basically a claim (add Eggman pointing it out too) so it was obvious I inspected you.
Besides my RQS, where?
Also, do the claims match up?
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:44 am

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I went through Derek's ISO and I couldn't really find anything to comment on, which is the comment itself.
I'll hammer after F-oh-ex shares his result.
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:04 am

Post by F-oh-ex »

That RQS was a strong soft and later you pointed it out in my ISO.
I gave my results a few posts above already: Eggman as VT, DGB as not VT, Derek as not VT.
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:29 am

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You never explicitly said Derek wasn't Vanilla, which confused me a little bit.
Alright, it's time to hammer. Let me find my picture.
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:32 am

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VOTE: Derek12
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:15 am

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Abstaining [2]:
Dragon of the West / Derek12


There are 5 active players.
Absolute majority is
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Majority has been reached.


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And another townie gone.

The serial killer smells blood, and..

Nopes. There's no serial killer.

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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:17 am

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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:24 am

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Endgame player list


[01] DrippingGoofball † -
town
- 3-Shot Vigilante - lynched day 3

[02] Shiro † -
town
- vanilla - killed night 3

[03] NJAC † -
town
- vanilla - lynched day 2

[04] Robbnva † -
town
- role cop neighbour - killed night 1

[05] Dwlee99 † -
town
- vanilla - killed night 1

[06] petroleumjelly † -
town
- vanilla - killed night 2

[07]
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- role cop neighbour - endgame
[08] Derek12 † -
town
- 1-Shot Bulletproof Backup Miller - lynched day 4

[09] Infinity 324 † -
mafia
- vanilla - killed night 2

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- vanilla - endgame
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[13] crazycrabman † -
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:24 am

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I was so surprised I got NKd, I hardly ever do.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:25 am

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I knew Neapolitan + Role cop weren't possible.
Sigh
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:26 am

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yea the fact no one questioned that claim is odd..
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:27 am

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I think the lesson from this is that never hammer in lylo until:
EVERYONE has claimed
And everyone comments on the intent to hammer
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:27 am

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Set-up


mafia
(1-shot) power absorber
mafia
vanilla
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(1-shot) bulletproof / backup miller
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rolecop / neighbour
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rolecop / neighbour
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Power absorber

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(passive): you can talk with your teammates here: link.

Mafia kill
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Absorb
(passive) (limit: 1): you will inherit the role and corresponding abilities from the player you kill. If you inherit an x-shot role this way, you will get an 1-shot version. This ability can be triggered once.

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You win when nothing can prevent the mafia from eliminating all other players not aligned to mafia.
They wasted it on a vanilla.
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:28 am

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In post 2016, Dwlee99 wrote:I think the lesson from this is that never hammer in lylo until:
EVERYONE has claimed
And everyone comments on the intent to hammer
or actually, just voting in lylo in general.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:34 am

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Actions


Night 1

Robbnva
role investigates
Creature
// Creature is vanilla

Dragon of the West
role investigates
Robbnva
// Robbnva is role cop neighbour

F-oh-ex
kills
Dwlee99
// nothing to absorb

Smithereens
kills
Robbnva


Night 2

Dragon of the West
role investigates
Shiro
// Shiro is vanilla

DrippingGoofball
kills
Infinity 324

Infinity 324
kills
petroleumjelly


Night 3

Dragon of the West
role investigates
Eggman
// Eggman is vanilla

F-oh-ex
kills
Shiro
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:36 am

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Oh nice, DotW claiming would be an easy town win.
Sigh
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:59 am

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In post 2014, Creature wrote:I knew Neapolitan + Role cop weren't possible.
For the record, I would have no qualms about including a combination of a role cop and neapolitan.
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:12 am

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gg

I'm disappointed in the play of both sides in lylo. Anyway, this game was difficult for town since it was going so slowly, so not very much info was generated and the info there was wasn't really used well (except a little at the end there).
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:27 am

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Not gonna lie, I was quite obnoxious in the later days. I banked on Eggman trusting, glad to see I wasn't mistaken.
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:06 pm

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Once Infinity and Titus give me the go-ahead, I'll post the links to the relevant threads.
Oh, and and I need the same from Dragon and Robb.

I also probably won't bother with the achievements, though maybe I'll update those later.

Thoughs and comments


THANK GOD THAT'S OVER.

Disappointed with the overall activity in this game, I have no idea what's the cause.. Is it just slow during Summer? Decline of players (and interest) on the site in general? The frustrating thing is that I'm sure this woudn't have happened if my game started closer to when I signed up as a mod. That was fucking February. I also noticed I had a bunch of newbies in my player list. It worried me a little, but I didn't want to judge, so I went ahead. We know how that turned out. Props to Fox for being an exception to this.

It's also frustrating, because it actually had the same number of replacements as my first game, however, despite that, my first game actually turned out ok I thought. Anyway, thanks to all players who stuck it out til the end (or their end at least). I hope at least some of you had a modicum of fun.

Also once again my apologies to Robb, Smithereens had to replace out soon after the day start, because he was moving out. He inititally didn't want to use his ability, but I found that strange, I mean, why waste an opportunity to use it, so I casually and openly wondered how his replacement would feel about a potentially wasted shot, though I didn't explicitly wanted to suggest he
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use it. But it was enough to change his mind, and he shot Robb, someone who was townread by most I believe. That said, I
suspect
him shooting Robb had nothing to do with him suspecting him of being mafia, but he's free to comment on that himself if he wants.

Robb also complained about the fact I didn't explicitly state who his neighbours were. I believe it's
common
to do so, but it's not standardized, I've asked about that during review. With it not being standardized, I was left to make my own decision on that, so I decided the option which suited me best: to not state who the neighbours were. This was both out of principle and because of set-up design. When a player rolls a neighbour role, but is not comfortable with using that ability, I feel that player should have the choice of not using it, but that's impossible when your neighbour already knows your role. The other reason..
In post 1104, Robbnva wrote:He asks if it's just us 2

I reply idk and mod won't tell me (earlier I had asked the mod for names of neighbors and he said they can introduce themselves. Shit modding right here. Tell people who's in the neighborhood. What if there is 3 and somebody is hiding?)
Yes, what if exactly? Fox had a chance to absorb the role cop neighbour role, granting him access to the neighbourhoos secretly. I didn't want to force him to communicate with the other neighbour, so it was a conscious decision not to list the active neighbours.

I also found it a bit strange he just blurted out him and Dragon being neighbours back then. I can also comment on this part:
In post 1104, Robbnva wrote:Mod posts saying welcome etc - Tuesday 3pm

I post a joke post. Testes, testes 1, 2, 3? - 6pm

Mod post - 1 min later

Wednesday morning - I post saying my neighbors must not be home

Thursday evening - I post saying that nobody posting isn't good

10 or so minutes later - mod makes a post excusing activity

This stems a conversation via pm back and forth with the mod on how he's revealed the alignment intentionally and now I have to assume everyone is town. He says he didn't and calls me ridiculous in his own way of course.

Friday evening dragon posts saying he forgot to post
Robb somehow thought I gave alignments away by opening up the neighbourhood thread during confirmations (so before the game has actually started). Just like the mafia thread. I've done this with all my previous games, and it never was a problem since confirmations never lasted that long before. I now see it's not
ideal
and I'll probably leave them closed in future games. That said, it obviously doesn't reveal alignments in any way whatsoever, Robbs problem is that he assumes too much, and I can't help he's reading too much into things. Dragon had not posted yet during confirmations, and that worried Robb. Now, if you go back to page 1, you can actually see Dragon neglected to properly confirm (and on a sidenote, I'm probably going to require 100% confirmations for future games). I was inclined to not interfere, but I thought
maybe
, Dragon isn't aware he's a neighbour (he only confirmed the role cop part), and I thought I'd be doing the game a disservice if I didn't at least remind him of that. Personally I thought it would be hilarious if he continued not being aware of his role, but for the greater good I sent him a PM anyway. Turns out, Dragon was aware, but simply forgot to post. He did so soon after, mentioning he simply forgot. Well this was all suspicious to Robb. Yeah sure, he
could've
been a scum who didn't want to post in the neighbourhood thread.. Or he could've been a townie who simply forgot to post there. I'm not responsible for Robb's suspicions.
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