Mini 1820 — Lazy Summer Mafia (Game Over)

[Raskolnikov]

Okay you're scary.

"hey this guy is really relaxed let's see if he's always like this"
I see you literally massacre in like your 1st newbie game as scum.

How/where did you learn how to play? You're not an alt.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: NaomiTan

[DrippingGoofball]

I have some townreads which are actually pretty good for this early but nothing stands out as overly scummy.
I thought aristo was kind of fake until the naomi comment which was really good for this early.
The Rb thing is good in that it progressed the game; but as a reaction test idk. I see scum do both of these for towncred a reasonable portion of the time too, only DGB seems to question it (infinity kind of?).

This is scum too

[DrippingGoofball]

Also just fyi i'm in Clash of the Mash so i'm not gonna be too overly active. But i'll be paying attention to this

Excuses already?

VOTE: IPS

Also, faking a fake townslip is, like, nuts!
I love it! XD

That's about all I got in these 3 pages.

I agree with Aristophanes, IPS is scum.

[Aristophanes]

Considering that Mafia has daytalk i think Infinity and RB could be scummbuddys trying to fake a towny conversation.

This is a scum slip town has no way of knowing scum have day talk.

Now the question is whether

this

is a faked townslip or not...

Neither because you could have missed the rule with either alignment

Right, but as scum one would already know there was daytalk, and either not question you on it, or make a big deal out of you knowing such things as a "townslip."

Thus my comment.

Neither because you could have missed the rule with either alignment.

^^ fixed version of post 71.

Don't know how that happened.

[Raskolnikov]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Explain all of your scumreads.

[Naomi-Tan]

VOTE: NaomiTan

Erm.. the Random vote stage ended.. could you give more details on this

also UNVOTE: Manuel87 for the same reason RVS has ended.

[Naomi-Tan]

I'm seeing Rem as town now. not knowing scum had day talk is something I was also unaware of, and because of this I feel she must be town. as scum would of gotten a link to the thread so you couldn't make this mistake with being scum and it seems to honest to be a scum faking.

[Raskolnikov]

VOTE: Naomi-tan

[Naomi-Tan]

It actually kind of looked like it might be AtE to me

despite my sig

Nope.. that was literally me being sleepy and just rifting with you. I imagined just sitting on bean bags in a room with a cup of coffee just talking over stuff at the time. It felt cozy too me. It was a entirely dumb thing to announce though, because I just feel that its going to be used against me down the road, but thats what happens when your sleepy and not thinking.

I can't remember the phase but there is one for when someone posts while your posting so here is where i'd write that, if someone could tell me what the short hand is, that would be great.

VOTE: Naomi-tan

Still confused about whats happening with this train..

[Naomi-Tan]

Considering that Mafia has daytalk i think Infinity and RB could be scummbuddys trying to fake a towny conversation.

This is a scum slip town has no way of knowing scum have day talk.

You should consider reading the rules and setup.

Oops. Although scum having day talk is good know.

Hey... why are you voting Manuel still? If you don't mind me asking? I thought your post here would be accompanied with an unvote so, I'd like to know more about this.

[Aristophanes]

I can't remember the phase but there is one for when someone posts while your posting so here is where i'd write that, if someone could tell me what the short hand is, that would be great.

That's called getting Ninja'd

[Naomi-Tan]

Thanks; So just post Ninja Response #1: and go from there I take it.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Explain all of your scumreads.

Fencesitting, followed by OMGUS

I know I'm good

How did I catch you so fast?

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Naomi-tan

Oh look and bus'ing

[Infinity 324]

Oooh lots of stuff.

Rask is gut town for now. Same with DGB

I feel like aristo could be scum, I think scum could come up with that naomi read explanation if pressured on it. I feel like it was slightly overdone for how weak the townread was.

Naomi was bleh and I don't like how she asked rem to unvote. She could be a nervous town though

Also manuel throwing shade and not adding anything useful is bleh. Though it could be town paranoia.

rem could be scum for the townslip right after the discussion about faking townslips, though that would be pretty bold...so still null..

Aristo what do you think about manuel?

VOTE: naomi

It will be interesting to try to pressure-read naomi given her personality

[Naomi-Tan]

I guess Dripping is baiting reactions then.. as there last posts seem to point that way. I guess thats cool.. Though it entirely confused me at first. But I guess thats one way to search, though I would appreciate if you removed your vote or explained the results you got from it that made you want to keep it.. that would be great.

Ninja Responce 1;

I asked them to explain why they are voting for Manuel87 As I expected an unvote, I didn't tell them to unvote

Jeez.. 3 votes.. this isn't going well :s

[Infinity 324]

I think they were just keeping their vote on the wagon to see what manuel would do under pressure

[Naomi-Tan]

Well.. I can assist you in what pressure tends to make me do; When pressured I try to look back and down the pages as much as possible trying to find things to talk about, the more pressure the more I tend to panic.. however, when like now I have nothing to talk about left I tend to just want to lurk and wonder off.. as It makes me feel like my contributions are just distributive and I should let the smarter people talk for a while.. thats kinda where I am now.. but I am at least still trying? i thought i'd explain rather than just wonder off for once.. as its pretty early on and I don't really have the ability to post pages of just random panic posts... but you have some of that above..

Ninja 1; Yup.. I guess that would be a thing..

[rb]

Okay you're scary.

"hey this guy is really relaxed let's see if he's always like this"
I see you literally massacre in like your 1st newbie game as scum.

How/where did you learn how to play? You're not an alt.

I learned a little from a guy named DarthPunk from TLmafia who's played in Mafia Championships somewhere or other. He's a friend of a friend and we've played some video games together. I think you might be overrating my ability anyway, I'm not that good imo.

[Naomi-Tan]

Considering that Mafia has daytalk i think Infinity and RB could be scummbuddys trying to fake a towny conversation.

This is a scum slip town has no way of knowing scum have day talk.

Now the question is whether

this

is a faked townslip or not...

Neither because you could have missed the rule with either alignment

Right, but as scum one would already know there was daytalk, and either not question you on it, or make a big deal out of you knowing such things as a "townslip."

Thus my comment.

Neither because you could have missed the rule with either alignment.

^^ fixed version of post 71.

Don't know how that happened.

This is a weird post to me.. I don't think you could of missed the rule with either alignment as Mafia would been provided a link to the day chat somewhere, I don't think you'd been able to miss that.

Ninja 1: Cool, think you could help me get in contact? I think I could really do with some guidance.

[rb]

Is this still RVS or are people legitimately scum-reading Naomi?

[Infinity 324]

Hmm I actually think naomi is town. I wouldn't expect scum in her position to be this transparent, I would expect them to AtE their way into hiding their motivations.

Back to this.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: manuel

Reads manuel?

[Naomi-Tan]

Is this still RVS or are people legitimately scum-reading Naomi?

I think they are reaction testing me, but as right now there isn't enough stuff for me to AtE or go wild omgus It just kinda fell flat. if It was day 2 or 3 the reaction would probably been explosive. I've been called too scummy to be scum a couple of times on other sites -_-

[rb]

Considering that Mafia has daytalk i think Infinity and RB could be scummbuddys trying to fake a towny conversation.

This is a scum slip town has no way of knowing scum have day talk.

Now the question is whether

this

is a faked townslip or not...

Neither because you could have missed the rule with either alignment

Right, but as scum one would already know there was daytalk, and either not question you on it, or make a big deal out of you knowing such things as a "townslip."

Thus my comment.

Neither because you could have missed the rule with either alignment.

^^ fixed version of post 71.

Don't know how that happened.

This is a weird post to me.. I don't think you could of missed the rule with either alignment as Mafia would been provided a link to the day chat somewhere, I don't think you'd been able to miss that.

Ninja 1: Cool, think you could help me get in contact? I think I could really do with some guidance.

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Not sure. I know on TLMafia they do "sheep" games. Basically you can play like a Hydra, except you don't play - you just get to share a PT with a player in the game, where you can ask them why they're playing how they are and they'll try and talk you through their processes and why they play that way. I've never done that though.

I think the most useful thing I did was "blind read" a bunch of Mafia Championships games. Without looking at any alignments, I would read through a completed game and try to pick scum/town based off interactions. At the end of each day I'd try to guess who was going to flip what. Then for "Night" I'd pretend I was a cop and do fake Cop checks. I'd record who I checked and then when I'd finished reading through the game I'd check to see how accurate my reads were and how effective my Cop checks were.

Also if I ever saw players whose thought patterns I could understand or I thought were the type of personality I could emulate, I'd not their name and read through their filter and maybe even dive their games on their home forum. So I guess I've become a sort of mish-mash of good players, and I just try out a bunch of stuff and keep what works for me. It makes it easy because when I run into a situation I'm not familiar with I can refer to my experiences and think, "okay well player X was in this situation and they tried to...." - I can try it myself, see what happens, see why it does or doesn't work for me and what other situations I could do it.

But I really wanna stress that I'm still very new and I'd hesitantly call myself AVERAGE at the game, not good or bad.

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