Mini Normal 1833 - Game Over!

[TwoFace]

Props to the mod for implementing a role that hasn't been used in ages in a mini normal

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why kill eager?

Solely to manipulate Titus. I felt if I could successfully do that you guys would finally vote her based on her behavior this game. And it almost worked too but you hammered.

Manipulate me to do what?

*shrug* You weren't convincing me to do anything. I would have voted you if TwoFace or JarJar actually did townie things. I never scumread TwoFace despite him being an asshole. You weren't going to manipulate me and I don't know why you thought proving me right would get me to change course?

You clearly believed you were right despite being shown how you couldn't possibly be so I figured if I kill Snake, you'll continue to scum read Jar/Heartache, which you did.

Umm, no. Today I didn't scumread TwoFace. TwoFace I just thought could be lying. Same as yesterday. You completely misunderstood my posts if you thought you could con me into believing there were more scum than possible.

It wasn't to make you think there were more scum, it was to get you to keep thinking the way you were thinking. I understand now why you played like you did since you believe Two Face and Jar didn't town tell enough but from my point of view I just thought you were playing dumb and I decided to play on that.

[Heartache]

Interesting setup, though definitely a tough break with the watcher kill that early. Was somewhat expecting another weak pr in the mix to balance out the hated negative utility to be honest.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm not angry by the way lol just a little salty. As Tere stated, this was my first ever game scum game so I probably would have messed up eventually.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Interesting setup, though definitely a tough break with the watcher kill that early. Was somewhat expecting another weak pr in the mix to balance out the hated negative utility to be honest.

Yeah for a while we thought Snake had some sort of protective role.

[TwoFace]

It's not fair taking advantage of Titus like that.

[TwoFace]

I thought town still had another role.

[Tere]

I am also very happy with the masses of WIFOM I managed to generate with my Hated wibble. I really didn't expect that to grow legs and run the way it did, lol.

Tere, I love your attitude being happy and appreciating things despite a loss, whereas me and some others are quite disgusted and angry with our win
You'll probably outlive us.

Ehhh, I am much more about personal performance than win rate. I've coasted through as scum when town were being toxic and found that deeply unsatisfactory, and given I have a tendency to replace in I have played scum more than the average I'd guess. My favourite games are when town synchs well - more fun to play as town and a better challenge as scum.

[Infinity 324]

This was an interesting read

Titus, I'm sorry, but you have to accept responsibility for being wrong. Whenever you're wrong about a read it's on you, no matter how bad you think the other person played it's your job to read them right.

I see what you're saying about jarjar trying to find wagons other than n_m but it was too obvious to be a scum tactic when n_m was doomed anyway. Scum love to bus excessively in those cases as a matter of fact.

Congrats LUV, I knew this was different from your town play in the newbie but I townread you anyway for most of the game since you played so well

[Tere]

I thought town still had another role.

So did we! We were contemplating a NK on Titus even though she was being helpful to us in thread, because we thought there was a free range investigative still out there.

[Heartache]

This scumteam is clearly delusional if they thought titus was helping them, that's just impossible

[TwoFace]

So what happens with dragon? He replaced out and joined another game which according to thor is against the rules

[TwoFace]

This scumteam is clearly delusional if they thought titus was helping them, that's just impossible

He would have if people actually listened to him. He took his town cred and flushed it down the drain.

[Clumsy]

I couldn't say anything to you guys, but the game he joined was in MishMash. It wasn't an actual Mafia game. I even double checked with listmods, it isn't an infraction or a problem at all.

[Tere]

So what happens with dragon? He replaced out and joined another game which according to thor is against the rules

Pre-empting Clumsy here, but basically he joined a mishmash game, and that's not regarded the same as joining into another mafia game because it's more casual. I fretted about it on the scumboard and Clumsy talked about it with Nexus and he said play on no rules broken.

correct me of course Clumsy if I've misinterpreted but that's I think the outcome?

FTR I offered to be modkilled if they wanted to.

[Tere]

Or not preempting Clumsy! *fistbump*

[Titus]

Agreed. It depends on why a user subs out that determines if it's an infraction.

I debated subbing out but decided that if JarJar was scum I was the only one even trying to make sure he didn't slip unnoticed. So I put up with the insults.

[Clumsy]

Dead/Spectator thread here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8395590

Masons, are you two okay with yours being released?

Scum?

[TwoFace]

If you would have not derped you wouldn't have had to endure nearly as much. Take a break Hit some newbie games, learn from your mistakes. There's hope for you yet.

[TwoFace]

Dead/Spectator thread here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8395590

Masons, are you two okay with yours being released?

Scum?

I'm fine. It shouldn't be a choice imo.

[Tere]

Agreed. It depends on why a user subs out that determines if it's an infraction.

I debated subbing out but decided that if JarJar was scum I was the only one even trying to make sure he didn't slip unnoticed. So I put up with the insults.

*hugs* I am sorry you felt bad. I like you and enjoy playing with you even though I will exploit the shit out of your left field reads as scum. Maybe just try and step back from the game more if you feel yourself tunnelling?

That was a longass Day 3 with no feedback though so help me. Scum were holding hands and wishing for the day to be over too!

[Tere]

Dead/Spectator thread here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8395590

Masons, are you two okay with yours being released?

Scum?

Sure, I'm probably a jerk at some point but I can live with that

[Titus]

Agreed. It depends on why a user subs out that determines if it's an infraction.

I debated subbing out but decided that if JarJar was scum I was the only one even trying to make sure he didn't slip unnoticed. So I put up with the insults.

*hugs* I am sorry you felt bad. I like you and enjoy playing with you even though I will exploit the shit out of your left field reads as scum. Maybe just try and step back from the game more if you feel yourself tunnelling?

That was a longass Day 3 with no feedback though so help me. Scum were holding hands and wishing for the day to be over too!

Yup, and I tried. No one was talking though. Sure there was posting, but nothing there for me to re-evaluate with. The only one who tried was Thor but he was wedded to Eagersnake scum.

It was only TwoFace who I had issue with.

Everyone else was great, even JarJar who came close to being townie despite TwoFace.

[Heartache]

BS, you scumread me but didn't ask me a single question the entire game. I STILL don't know where your scumread came from.
And even after jarjar got confirmed town you didn't have a shred of doubt? How am I supposed to work with you??

[TwoFace]

It was only TwoFace who I had issue with.

How was it my fault you didn't believe that jarjar was my mason buddy?

What was wrong with wanting you to provide more than "I'm sheeping the dead guy"

I was very transparent with my thoughts. That's a good thing, not bad. When you lied that jar was trying to lynch blix instead of not mafia I took offense to that and called you on it.

That's all good town play. Trying to discredit the masons isn't. Calling one of them scum and refusing to discuss reads with us is bad town play.