Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:04 pm
@Boring - still not buying it.
If you were conflicted about your read on Eager,
If you were conflicted about your read on Eager,
why the hell was he your second to top town read
?Actually, I think that was my concern with her Eager read.In post 1375, nn30 wrote:@Boring - still not buying it.
If you were conflicted about your read on Eager,why the hell was he your second to top town read?
^^^^In post 1375, nn30 wrote:@Boring - still not buying it.
If you were conflicted about your read on Eager,why the hell was he your second to top town read?
In post 1377, MariaR wrote:^^^^In post 1375, nn30 wrote:@Boring - still not buying it.
If you were conflicted about your read on Eager,why the hell was he your second to top town read?
Yes, and I'll add that Gamma Emerald jumped on twice and off twice (comes back from V/LA, sees the claim from Shadow_step, votes in 867; removes vote from eagerSnake in 927 and to Shadow_step in 933 after Lil Uzi Vert adds another vote to that wagon; brings eagerSnake to L-1 in 1176; comes off again in 1258).In post 1352, Zoronos wrote:So, in short, your theory is that Gamma is Eager's scum partner, and who jumped on the lynch train when he thought it was going to complete for the town cred, then jumped off again when he thought he might be able to save his scum buddy?In post 1351, Dierfire wrote:@ZoronosYes, that's correct.In post 1334, Zoronos wrote:So, for the sake of clarity Dierfire, your scum reads are Eager, Gamma, and Penguin? You are further of the opinion that Gamma and Penguin's set of disagreements around the competing trains was theater / scum distancing and that they could be scum together?
Am I understanding this correctly?
I'm not married to the idea that all three are Mafia together, but I have independent reasons to read each as Mafia, associative reasons to read PenguinPower and Gamma Emerald as partners, and no associative reasons to doubt either as partners for eagerSnake (in fact, perhaps some associative reasons to read Gamma Emerald as a likely partner for eagerSnake given the hops on and off the eagerSnake wagon).
Keep in mind - I've been scumreading Gamma for a lot of this game.In post 1380, Dierfire wrote:@ZoronosYes, and I'll add that Gamma Emerald jumped on twice and off twice (comes back from V/LA, sees the claim from Shadow_step, votes in 867; removes vote from eagerSnake in 927 and to Shadow_step in 933 after Lil Uzi Vert adds another vote to that wagon; brings eagerSnake to L-1 in 1176; comes off again in 1258).In post 1352, Zoronos wrote:So, in short, your theory is that Gamma is Eager's scum partner, and who jumped on the lynch train when he thought it was going to complete for the town cred, then jumped off again when he thought he might be able to save his scum buddy?In post 1351, Dierfire wrote:@ZoronosYes, that's correct.In post 1334, Zoronos wrote:So, for the sake of clarity Dierfire, your scum reads are Eager, Gamma, and Penguin? You are further of the opinion that Gamma and Penguin's set of disagreements around the competing trains was theater / scum distancing and that they could be scum together?
Am I understanding this correctly?
I'm not married to the idea that all three are Mafia together, but I have independent reasons to read each as Mafia, associative reasons to read PenguinPower and Gamma Emerald as partners, and no associative reasons to doubt either as partners for eagerSnake (in fact, perhaps some associative reasons to read Gamma Emerald as a likely partner for eagerSnake given the hops on and off the eagerSnake wagon).
Because he was, until the CC, mechanically town. I would have put him as #1, but I couldn't bring myself to do it.In post 1375, nn30 wrote:@Boring - still not buying it.
If you were conflicted about your read on Eager,why the hell was he your second to top town read?
EBWOPIn post 1385, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:To me it still reads like Shadow made it look premeditated. The timing is too convenient for me.
Just going to quote this for posterity.In post 1385, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:To me it still reads like Shadow made look premeditated. The timing is too convenient for me.
Uhh... Please clarify what exactly you mean by these two sentences. I'm not getting it.In post 1385, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:To me it still reads like Shadow made look premeditated. The timing is too convenient for me.
I'm saying that Shadow made it look like he intended to counterclaim Snake and that when he did counterclaim, it conveniently was at time where there were some serious discussion and debate going on about the wagons on Gamma and Penguin.In post 1389, nn30 wrote:Uhh... Please clarify what exactly you mean by these two sentences. I'm not getting it.In post 1385, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:To me it still reads like Shadow made look premeditated. The timing is too convenient for me.
Why not start now?In post 1356, MariaR wrote:When eager flips town I am power tunneling Dierfire into the ground
Wasn't it stated by some people that the claim was suspected as a distraction?In post 1390, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm saying that Shadow made it look like he intended to counterclaim Snake and that when he did counterclaim, it conveniently was at time where there were some serious discussion and debate going on about the wagons on Gamma and Penguin.In post 1389, nn30 wrote:Uhh... Please clarify what exactly you mean by these two sentences. I'm not getting it.In post 1385, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:To me it still reads like Shadow made look premeditated. The timing is too convenient for me.
I think that it's clear that Shadow_step was setting up to counter the claim from early in the game. I'm not certain why you find that suspicious. Why would Shadow_step, as Mafia, feel the need to start setting up to dispute the claim so early? Usually it is not difficult to dispose of an Ascetic role (by NK or by lynch).In post 1390, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm saying that Shadow made it look like he intended to counterclaim Snake and that when he did counterclaim, it conveniently was at time where there were some serious discussion and debate going on about the wagons on Gamma and Penguin.
You were scumreading both me and Penguin.In post 1395, Dierfire wrote:@Lil Uzi VertI think that it's clear that Shadow_step was setting up to counter the claim from early in the game. I'm not certain why you find that suspicious. Why would Shadow_step, as Mafia, feel the need to start setting up to dispute the claim so early? Usually it is not difficult to dispose of an Ascetic role (by NK or by lynch).In post 1390, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm saying that Shadow made it look like he intended to counterclaim Snake and that when he did counterclaim, it conveniently was at time where there were some serious discussion and debate going on about the wagons on Gamma and Penguin.
I also don't think that Shadow_step needed to claim in order to create a distraction. The move that you describe would be one with low reward and high risk.