Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:33 am
He gave no explanation for voting you, and then abandoned you to vote for Zoronos for something that's been available for scrutiny for quite some time. It's arbitrary.In post 1701, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't get how those votes are scummy.
My reasons for Gamma were expressed in D1. I hadn't taken a look at Vote Counts until responding to LUV.In post 1702, boring wrote:He gave no explanation for voting you, and then abandoned you to vote for Zoronos for something that's been available for scrutiny for quite some time. It's arbitrary.
What is Gamma scum?In post 1671, PenguinPower wrote:No, I cared. I just legit thought that Eager was scum. You should probably put your vote back on me with how strongly you think I'm scum.In post 1616, Zoronos wrote:Looking at the lynch yesterday, he provided no arguments for why Eager specifically was scum in the pair, didn't make any strong efforts to decide between the two competing claims, and didn't seem to examine the alternative trains. He just parked and went effectively afk other than an occasional 'this needs rope' style comment.
That to me suggests scum happy to take an easy lynch. He doesn't make an effort to sort out the alignments of all three players being discussed (boring, Eager, SS) because he doesn't care.
VOTE: Gamma
Unlike you, this vote is because I think he's scum.
I wasn't gonna say it so early, but my pet theory currently is that scum killed off the Eager wagon to prevent their buddies on that wagon from being PoE later. This of course means that I'm thinking that scum will keep killing off that wagon to make narrowing things down harder. Also I the most scum kills tend to have their own pattern to them dependent to the team. Unfortunately its hard to divine it until later into the game. This theory would mean that I'm expecting two scum on the Eager wagon, with the third scum being off. Also, I predict that the scum off the wagon is the one setting themselves up to go deep.In post 1664, Prism wrote:
Looking at Maria's ISO, either one of them is really scum, more likely boring than Dierfire in my opinion, or MariaR is 5/5 in her townreads in #751. I'm inclined to believe the latter regardless of if the former is true. Cry WIFOM but you want but you only WIFOM if you think you're more likely to win because of it. This kill doesn't make sense if other, more town players are on the right track. nn30, Shadow, and PP line up nicely with my reads, Eager is flipped, and Grendel isn't a stretch. It seems unlikely for any of them to kill her if they're scum. I think they're all town, Grendel being the one I'm least sure on.
Pengiun has beenboring wrote:@Grendel, what are your thoughts on PP and LUV?
This is actually what I was going to say. However the swift unvote is kinda stupid. I had a wagon on me, if you thought I was scum you should have stayed on my wagon.In post 1704, PenguinPower wrote:My reasons for Gamma were expressed in D1. I hadn't taken a look at Vote Counts until responding to LUV.In post 1702, boring wrote:He gave no explanation for voting you, and then abandoned you to vote for Zoronos for something that's been available for scrutiny for quite some time. It's arbitrary.
Next.
I'm going to vote my strongest scumread, and Zoronos' lack of voting at all rubs me the wrong way...way wrong.In post 1711, Gamma Emerald wrote:This is actually what I was going to say. However the swift unvote is kinda stupid. I had a wagon on me, if you thought I was scum you should have stayed on my wagon.In post 1704, PenguinPower wrote:My reasons for Gamma were expressed in D1. I hadn't taken a look at Vote Counts until responding to LUV.In post 1702, boring wrote:He gave no explanation for voting you, and then abandoned you to vote for Zoronos for something that's been available for scrutiny for quite some time. It's arbitrary.
Next.
This is kinda what I'm talking about. Lots of words. No votes.In post 1712, Grendel wrote:Wait, Zornos never even revoted Penguin...
uh, I thought you had decided Penguin was town just yesterday?Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay that's making me uncomfortable. Not "I'll totally claim intent", "I have no problem hammering".
So you seem to not want to push my wagon. Sure, I cantotallybuy that as town play.
VOTE: PenguinPower
So you have decided instead that he is town?In post 1709, PenguinPower wrote:Moved on from that for now.
As I said, I'd like to do some rethink. When my scum reads are attacking each other either I have some wrong reads or the buses are lining up early and I need to figure out which are legit attacks, which are busses, and where I'm going wrong if anywhere.
You're right, but I can't edit posts. Should have said "Moved on to something else for now."In post 1719, Zoronos wrote:Oh, I see I was beaten. So now he's a leanscum read. Justify your lean scum read. "Moved on from that" isn't an answer to 'Why is he scum'. Perhaps an answer to 'is he your top scum' but that wasn't the question asked.
Haha...In post 1720, Gamma Emerald wrote:I changed my mind on PP:
1) The "Shadow intended to frame me and PP" idea is pretty illogical
2) This dude just said he's on my wagon pretty much but he'll be pushing someone else. Sounds scum motivated to me.