Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:33 pm
Also.
I think we massclaim today?
Why are we not thinking about this?
I think we massclaim today?
Why are we not thinking about this?
This is also entirely possible. To some degree it's starting to look like it's different from how he played last game to the point of him putting on a farce. I still err on the side of him being town because I don't think that's a tact he'd have been likely to take unless he sort of naturally started doing it with the original comments on Grendel and then sort of just went with it as a persona for the game because it was working.In post 2472, Prism wrote:First, people have asked me my impression of PP-he's a lot less town than he used to be because it seems to me that he was very intentionally overdoing the brash behavior.
In post 2472, Prism wrote:Hey all,
I see a lot worth replying to but I can't really respond to them how I'd like right now. I will be free after 6 PM EST tomorrow so you can expect more there.
In the meantime, two things I should reply to sooner rather than later. First, people have asked me my impression of PP-he's a lot less town than he used to be because it seems to me that he was very intentionally overdoing the brash behavior. Meta changes and it's possible he's gotten more adept at faking his tone. The key thing to reread here is probably interactions with LUV, I'll review them along with the long-promised Grendel and Dierfire rereads tomorrow. Expect this read to change accordingly.
Second,In post 2464, Shadow_step wrote:You can't lynch conf town, your case makes me laugh.In post 2466, Shadow_step wrote:I don't give a flying shit about convincing you of anything.
If you're town you're a moron if you're scum you are trying to lynch me because I pretty much am confirmed town.
Your stupid theory of there being an ascetic RB is pretty much BS. It doesn't matter what Zoro's read on me is. Its the correct play numerically to kill Zoro and keep blocking GE. That way there are no conf towns and my scum team can still push an angle of GE fakeclaoming cop, so implosion wouldn't be clear either.Sorry, can you remind me how you're confirmed town? I don't recall seeing that anywhere. By your own reasoning, there's no reason for any town to believe there's two town ascetics. Maybe we should follow you on that?In post 2467, Shadow_step wrote:Now back to lynching ob scum nn30.
I think you're town. I think nn30 is a lot more town than you. Even if me and Implosion are wildly wrong rather than you, and I really doubt that's the case, you haven't done shit to justify your attitude right now, and whatever you're doing isn't convincing anyone.
ISOing you and scanning your votes you've declared Eager definitely scum, Gamma his confirmed scumbuddy, Implosion the next scum, and you didn't even vote LUV. I'm not seeing where this high horse is coming from at any point. I haven't done much better but jesus.
2nd time you've brought this up. I get the Zoronos bit; but, in a closed setup how is this going to benefit PoE? This is my first time playing one, so if you could explain that bit more.In post 2476, implosion wrote:if we don't massclaim zoronos dies tonight, it seems foolish to waste a possibly more-informed use of the jailkeeper tonight, etc. Theoretic worst case scenario is scum have a blocker and block whatever other active power we have I guess? but if scum have a blocker we're going to have another significant PR and we'll want to know about that. And also most importantly we're at the point where these claims will REALLY help PoE.
I've already claimed.In post 2483, PenguinPower wrote:Shadow
cause of the way you pushed my lynch after my claim. It was beneficial to you as scum to get me lynched, after my flip you would have lynched eager because I cced him. 2 free mislynches.In post 2482, nn30 wrote:Hey Shadow, why don't you state your flip dippin case on me??!!
While you're at it, why don't you refute what Implosion and Prism have had to say, too?
I like you for scum out of these.In post 2344, Shadow_step wrote:So one of [Diefire, Grendal, nn30]
In post 2487, Shadow_step wrote:cause of the way you pushed my lynch after my claim. It was beneficial to you as scum to get me lynched, after my flip you would have lynched eager because I cced him. 2 free mislynches.In post 2482, nn30 wrote:Hey Shadow, why don't you state your flip dippin case on me??!!
While you're at it, why don't you refute what Implosion and Prism have had to say, too?
DF's point about how you were the only unflippedtownplayer on the boring wagon.
POEI like you for scum out of these.In post 2344, Shadow_step wrote:So one of [Diefire, Grendal, nn30]
At the time, you called me a townie who couldn't see last what was in front of him. You went as far as calling me conf town. When did you 180 on this stance and why?In post 2487, Shadow_step wrote:cause of the way you pushed my lynch after my claim. It was beneficial to you as scum to get me lynched, after my flip you would have lynched eager because I cced him. 2 free mislynches.In post 2482, nn30 wrote:Hey Shadow, why don't you state your flip dippin case on me??!!
While you're at it, why don't you refute what Implosion and Prism have had to say, too?
DF's point about how you were the only unflipped town on the boring wagon.
POEI like you for scum out of these.In post 2344, Shadow_step wrote:So one of [Diefire, Grendal, nn30]
Cause I thought eager was scum then.In post 2489, nn30 wrote:At the time, you called me a townie who couldn't see last what was in front of him. You went as far as calling me conf town. When did you 180 on this stance and why?
I already answered the second question.In post 2489, nn30 wrote:Why didn't I push for your lynch day two then? Why would I push so hard on you D1 when eager was very likely going to get lynched anyways? What's the incentive to anything other than watch?
Before implosion, I guess, since he's conf!town.In post 2486, Shadow_step wrote:Where are you putting yourself?
If your scum read is based off of my reaction to your CC on D1, the fact that I didn't push you at all on D2 should be more than enough to remove your scum read. I didn't follow through with the 'scum play' you've identified.In post 2491, Shadow_step wrote:I already answered the second question.In post 2489, nn30 wrote:Why didn't I push for your lynch day two then? Why would I push so hard on you D1 when eager was very likely going to get lynched anyways? What's the incentive to anything other than watch?
first and third questions are rhetorical I can't read your mind.
@the poe point, grendel & dier are my best picks for second scum like I've said so I've no problem with that list.In post 2487, Shadow_step wrote:cause of the way you pushed my lynch after my claim. It was beneficial to you as scum to get me lynched, after my flip you would have lynched eager because I cced him. 2 free mislynches.In post 2482, nn30 wrote:Hey Shadow, why don't you state your flip dippin case on me??!!
While you're at it, why don't you refute what Implosion and Prism have had to say, too?
DF's point about how you were the only unflipped town on the boring wagon.
POEI like you for scum out of these.In post 2344, Shadow_step wrote:So one of [Diefire, Grendal, nn30]
I could use this by a slightly weaker form of your logic (pushing a mislynch rather than pushing a chain of mislynches) to justify a scumread on you. Pushing the eager lynch was beneficial to scum because it secured him as a mislynch.Shadow wrote:Cause I thought eager was scum then.
Basically, there's a benchmark for how much town power will be in a mini normal and if we all claim we can speculate about how much power is left unaccounted for. There may be town power roles who have useful information which can be used to speculate further, or there may be confirmable roles or roles that can let us eliminate people as scum as well. Or people might claim contradictory roles or information. Mostly though it can just be used to speculate on which roles are likely in the setup together; I've caught scum just from massclaim analysis.In post 2479, PenguinPower wrote:2nd time you've brought this up. I get the Zoronos bit; but, in a closed setup how is this going to benefit PoE? This is my first time playing one, so if you could explain that bit more.In post 2476, implosion wrote:if we don't massclaim zoronos dies tonight, it seems foolish to waste a possibly more-informed use of the jailkeeper tonight, etc. Theoretic worst case scenario is scum have a blocker and block whatever other active power we have I guess? but if scum have a blocker we're going to have another significant PR and we'll want to know about that. And also most importantly we're at the point where these claims will REALLY help PoE.