Mini Normal #1838 - Game Over

[Shadow_step]

4 lynches, 5 players unconfirmed players.
So close to auto win.
.

[nn30]

@Grendel - I'm going to remember Belgian waffle peddler for a long time.

1st - you seem like you're resigning yourself to being lynched. Not a fan :/

If you flip town, I'd like to have a long discussion with you in post game about my play. I think your nick-name for me is getting at the fact that I'm bouncing around a lot. That's indicative of me not really knowing how to scum hunt - so my confidence in my scum reads is low. If you have any suggestions for me in the post game, please let me know. We can still talk if you're scum but it will be less useful to me since you will have looked at my play through a different lens.

[nn30]

4 lynches, 5 players unconfirmed players.
So close to auto win.
.

Unless my math is wrong, we have 9 remaining players. Your post suggests we have 4 conf! players. Please list them so that I can reference this information later.

[podoboq]

Official Vote Count 3.24

Lynching

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Grendel (4): Zoronos, Dierfire, Prism, nn30
Dierfire (1): Grendel
boring (1): implosion
Shadow_step (1): boring

Not Voting (2): Shadow_step, PenguinPower

Deadline: (expired on 2016-11-14 13:30:00)

[Shadow_step]

PP, zoro, implosion, me.
I know what you're going to say. Save it.

[Prism]

Outside of those two I am wary of Prism because I think he has the ability to fake what he is doing as scum. At this point I still think he shouldn't get town cred for being on the LUV wagon. I also dislike how he accuses his scum reads of being "nonsensical", which is on the same level as "Either they're bad town or scum". I also think a lot of the rhetoric he uses to drum up support for his lynches is mischaracterizing, and misleading. Trouble is that idk if that's just how Prism likes to push his wagons, or if its actually something he prefers doing as scum. I also never finished rereading him because his posts are dense and I had to do lots of cross checking. I was null about a lot of it.

To me this reads a lot like trying to implicate me post-flip with how vague and weak it is, I feel like it has to be on purpose. I don't know how much good it will really do you when the game is likely over and bussing at this stage is unlikely.

I have time Saturday if we want to wait for me to read Dierfire but I still see no reason to think Grendel will flip town. The only reason I haven't gone indepth on why I think he's been nonsensical is because of time constraints.

[Prism]

@Grendel-Can you quote what are in your opinion mischaracterizing or misleading statements?

On another note I've been very transparent with the fact that I'm not satisfied with the reasoning people are townreading me. Faking tone and going through the town routine is trivial after over 6 years of play. Anyone, town or scum, can give and subsequently walk back reads with my surface appearance as the basis. I've appealed numerous times to get a read on me at a deeper level, and to do it sooner rather than later. Maybe I overrate myself as scum, and that deeper level really isn't needed, but without meta on me there isn't anyone who knows, and therefore it's the only way. The focus should be on the lynches I push and the ones I oppose and why, because those are the things that stick-if you're scum, you've got to get a certain number of mislynches somehow, and it will show. Understanding why I am town is the deeper level I'm pushing people to reach, rather than merely thinking so.

[PenguinPower]

My hammer-finger is getting itchy. I'm impatient.

Intent to Hammer

That'll likely stay for about 3 hours at most. Let's say what we need to say.

[Prism]

Zoronos needs to out a jail first and it's 7:30 AM EST. Giving people 3 hours when they're asleep and subsequently heading to work is not reasonable, I know my Saturday request is probably too much but 3 hours is ridiculous.

UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

Meh. Fine. I'll wait for Zoronos.

[Prism]

VOTE: Grendel

[Shadow_step]

My hammer-finger is getting itchy. I'm impatient.

Same

But I can wait.

[Zoronos]

Mobile post.
If Grendel flips Red and a blocking / evading role i'm jailing DF.

[Shadow_step]

So can I hammer?

[Shadow_step]

If anyone wants to say anything now is the time, I'm going to hammer when I see Podo online.

[Shadow_step]

VOTE: grendel

[podoboq]

Official Vote Count 3.25

Lynching

FINAL

Grendel (5): Zoronos, Dierfire, Prism, nn30, Shadow_step
Dierfire (1): Grendel
boring (1): implosion
Shadow_step (1): boring

Not Voting (1): PenguinPower

Deadline: (expired on 2016-11-14 13:30:00)

[podoboq]

Grendel, Vanilla Townie, was lynched Day 3.

It is now Night 3. Please PM all night actions to me by the deadline, or bold them in your associated private thread.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-11-13 11:30:00)

[podoboq]

PenguinPower, Town Deputy, died Night 3.

Day 4 begins

Deadline: (expired on 2016-11-27 11:30:00)

[podoboq]

Official Vote Count 4.00

Lynching

With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

Anybody (0):

Not Voting (7): Dierfire, Shadow_step, boring, implosion, nn30, Zoronos, Prism

Deadline: (expired on 2016-11-27 11:30:00)

[Shadow_step]

Zoro you're fucking useless

VOTE: DF

[boring]

Shadow took almost no convincing to be the first off Dier'w wagon. He then decided to hammer Dier's counterwagon, which Dier was on. Then, he votes Deir right out the gate today.

I called it yesterday, and I'm calling it today, he'll use/find any excuse to get off Deir again before the hammer.

Let's speed this farce up, hmm?

VOTE: Dierfire

[Shadow_step]

2 conf townies wanted to lynch Grendel instead. You are reading the game aren't you ?

[boring]

2 conf townies wanted to lynch Grendel instead. You are reading the game aren't you ?

It's rather out of character for you to sheep, isn't it?

To the rest of the class, does anyone really believe that the coincidence of being confirmed town is going to alter reality to make them any more right than otherwise? The only benefit we got from that wagon is a strong likelihood that both scum were on it, under the cover of sheeping/"agreeing with" conf. town.

[Shadow_step]

Not out of character. DF lynch wasn't likely to happen and I wasn't going to no lynch.

So you think both scum were voting Df but you still vote him anyway?