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Post Post #2875  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:23 am

You like to misinterpret all my posts. Nice
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Post Post #2876  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:24 am

In post 2865, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 2863, Zoronos wrote:I was out of town and just said 'fuck it maybe everything i think I know about is wrong, and if NN is scum the scum team would never expect me to jail him since I town read him, ergo if he's scum he's likely the one running the NK.'


So the scum teams are

DF/boring
Boring/prism
DF/Prism

The only team in which I cannot see nn30 not doing the kill is nn/Prism.

We can auto win just by lynching these 3.


What's your read on me, exactly?

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Post Post #2877  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:26 am

In post 2875, Shadow_step wrote:You like to misinterpret all my posts. Nice
Yeah, I sure misinterpreted you saying I should know the site meta with my extensive onsite experience of 0 games all right.

Jesus, I'm out for the night, I'll calm down and be back tomorrow, me getting angry isn't helping at all.

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Post Post #2878  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:28 am

In post 2870, Shadow_step wrote:I'm not cocky I'm using basic logic.
It isn't too difficult.

A DF/nn scum team with nn not doing the kill makes no sense at all. So we can eliminate that.

So the things we can do today are
Lynch DF that will clear nn if df flips red.

Lynch Prism, cause prism/nn is the only scum team in which nn doesn't do the kill.

Zoronos was TR boring as well so boring/nn is also possible but meh.

So my plan is lynch Prism today, then boring. If both flip scum brilliant we win.
If only one of them does we get to decide between nn/df who the last scum is.


Hoooooooly crap this isn't even self-consistently logical.

If lynching Df actually means I'm cleared, this should be number 1 priority since it comes with an auto clear.

Yet you want to start with Prism... who nobody has actually scum read basically all game...

And even if you want to start with Prism, your vote certainly isn't there right now. That makes 0 sense.

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Post Post #2879  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:29 am

I didn't check your profile goddamnit.
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Post Post #2880  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:30 am

In post 2879, Shadow_step wrote:I didn't check your profile goddamnit.


You said he'd been here for years?!?!

What the hell DID you do?

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Post Post #2881  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:32 am

Official Vote Count 4.02
LynchingWith 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

Dierfire (2): Shadow_step, boring

Not Voting (5): Dierfire, implosion, nn30, Zoronos, Prism


V/LA: boring

Deadline: (expired on 2016-11-27 11:30:00)
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Post Post #2882  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:33 am

In post 2878, nn30 wrote:
In post 2870, Shadow_step wrote:I'm not cocky I'm using basic logic.
It isn't too difficult.

A DF/nn scum team with nn not doing the kill makes no sense at all. So we can eliminate that.

So the things we can do today are
Lynch DF that will clear nn if df flips red.

Lynch Prism, cause prism/nn is the only scum team in which nn doesn't do the kill.

Zoronos was TR boring as well so boring/nn is also possible but meh.

So my plan is lynch Prism today, then boring. If both flip scum brilliant we win.
If only one of them does we get to decide between nn/df who the last scum is.


Hoooooooly crap this isn't even self-consistently logical.

If lynching Df actually means I'm cleared, this should be number 1 priority since it comes with an auto clear.

Yet you want to start with Prism... who nobody has actually scum read basically all game...

And even if you want to start with Prism, your vote certainly isn't there right now. That makes 0 sense.


:facepalm: :facepalm:

Why are you so horrible at seeing the obvious.
Gawd I hate newbies.
Have you considered what happens if DF flips town???!!!
The chance of nn/prism scum team still exists. So who do lynch at lylo?
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Post Post #2883  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:35 am

In post 2880, nn30 wrote:
In post 2879, Shadow_step wrote:I didn't check your profile goddamnit.


You said he'd been here for years?!?!

What the hell DID you do?


It says below his AVI.
Do you actually bother to think before you post?
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Post Post #2884  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:37 am

In post 2882, Shadow_step wrote:
In post 2878, nn30 wrote:
In post 2870, Shadow_step wrote:I'm not cocky I'm using basic logic.
It isn't too difficult.

A DF/nn scum team with nn not doing the kill makes no sense at all. So we can eliminate that.

So the things we can do today are
Lynch DF that will clear nn if df flips red.

Lynch Prism, cause prism/nn is the only scum team in which nn doesn't do the kill.

Zoronos was TR boring as well so boring/nn is also possible but meh.

So my plan is lynch Prism today, then boring. If both flip scum brilliant we win.
If only one of them does we get to decide between nn/df who the last scum is.


Hoooooooly crap this isn't even self-consistently logical.

If lynching Df actually means I'm cleared, this should be number 1 priority since it comes with an auto clear.

Yet you want to start with Prism... who nobody has actually scum read basically all game...

And even if you want to start with Prism, your vote certainly isn't there right now. That makes 0 sense.


:facepalm: :facepalm:

Why are you so horrible at seeing the obvious.
Gawd I hate newbies.
Have you considered what happens if DF flips town???!!!
The chance of nn/prism scum team still exists. So who do lynch at lylo?


The same thing if Boring or Prism flip town. Nothing. The only lynch which comes with a possible upside is Dier (as it auto clears me).

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Post Post #2885  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:41 am

VOTE: Shadow_Step

You can count on my vote being there for the next 11 days. If town hasn't decided that Shadow is worth lynching by then, and I haven't died, I'll consider competing cases and make a determination at that time.

Shadow has been at best unhelpful town. His reads have been inconsistent. His confidence throughout the game has been at best frustrating and at worst indicates he's scum (since he already knows who is and isn't town).

I'm just tired of having to talk to him. If he flips town, well, at least we'll get to discuss lylo without his rude ass.

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Post Post #2886  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:45 am

the only way zoronos can be scum is if there's 2 scum in which case we'll know that's the case at 3p.
my thoughts are similar to shadow's & prism's. At least I definitely want to lynch dier & boring. Zoro jailing nn was good. Gives me more confidence in that read.

Not much else to say atm.

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Post Post #2887  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:50 am

@Implsion

I need your views on what you think about what I suggested about lynching Prism and the Boring.

I think we can eliminate a DF/nn scum team which leaves these

DF/boring
DF/Prism
Boring/Prism

So basically if we do this, we are going to hit scum no matter what.

I'm open to suggestion. We can lynch boring/Prism in any order.
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Post Post #2888  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:54 am

I'm not going to bother to respond to derp town like nn who don't know shit.
Prism who constantly misreps me because it's convenient for him as scum.
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Post Post #2889  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:01 am

@Mod: I'm requesting replacement, I can't deal with this anymore, this is insufferable, my apologies.

My final reads are still nn30 town, I lean Shadow town still but I'm very confident on my nn read and I strongly advocate against lynching him at any juncture. I still think lynching boring/Dierfire is the right call.

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Post Post #2890  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:10 am

No, you can stay.

@mod, replace me instead.

I've never replaced out of any games because it sucks for the mod and this will be a first. I can't take this constant misrep and insult of my play when I'm not being arrgant or cocky at all. I can't help it if people perceive it that way.

Anyway I think my plan is full proof.
Best of luck.
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Post Post #2891  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:14 am

Also, playing with clueless newbies like nn isn't really thrilling either.
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Post Post #2892  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:47 am

I've taken a walk and calmed down. I'm sorry for going off. I'm going to stay. You should stay too, we're close to the end and nobody will want to read 116 pages.

I agree with you anyway on it being 2/3 of me/boring/Dierfire even if I'm frustrated with your side points. I still need to reread Dierfire and I won't vote until then but I'm staying and you should too, we're both being childish.

@Mod: You don't need to replace me, I'm really sorry for letting my temper get the best of me. It won't happen again, but I understand if you feel you need to replace me anyway.

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Post Post #2893  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:51 am

As of now, I have not begun the replacement process for anybody, and am happy to keep it that way. If anybody would still like to be replaced, let me know, and I will begin seeking a replacement.
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Post Post #2894  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:21 am

Replace me please.
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Post Post #2895  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:39 am

I have begun seeking a replacement for Shadow_step.
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Post Post #2896  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:56 am

BlackVoid replaces Shadow_step.
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Post Post #2897  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:45 am

Hi, I was following the game from the beginning. I'm going to note down all the claims so I have a bird's eye-view of the game before digging into reads.

eagerSnake - Town Ascetic - was lynched Day 1
MariaR - Vanilla Townie - died Night 1
Lil Uzi Vert - Mafia Goon - was lynched Day 2
Gamma Emerald - Town Cop - died Night 2
Grendel - Vanilla Townie - was lynched Day 3
PenguinPower - Town Deputy - died Night 3

BlackVoid - Town Ascetic
Zoronos - Town Jailkeeper (N1: Penguin N2: Grendel N3: nn30)
implosion - Vanilla Townie (confirmed town via Gamma Emerald)
nn30 - Vanilla Townie
boring - Vanilla Townie
Dierfire - Vanilla Townie
Prism - Vanilla Townie

Correct me if I make a mistake anywhere.

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Post Post #2898  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:03 am

UNVOTE:

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Post Post #2899  (ISO)  » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:11 am

As far as reads go, I spent most of the time I was spectating from D1 onwards thinking that Boring, Prism, and LUV were the scumteam because I was townreading everyone else. I was really sad to see Eagersnake lynched because despite being cc'd, he was really, really obvtown. Implosion was too and the cop investigation on him wasn't the best idea in my opinion.

While it's technically possible Zoronos is scum, I don't think his play around LUV looked like he was cc'ing a partner. For one, he did it way too quick instead of checking to see if town cc's him first. I don't find him scummy either way so I'll safely eliminate him from suspicion along with Implosion. That leaves me with four players: Boring, Prism, nn30, and Dierfire.

Boring is the one I'm most confident is scum. D1 play had a lot of scum motivation, and I found some of her posts to be really manipulative. The nightkill only cemented that. In hindsight, the fact that four confirmed townies were voting her is another mark against her. Frankly, I'm surprised she it made this far when she should have been lynched D1 over Eagersnake. But everyone's finally coalesced on a scumread of her so better late than never I guess. By the way, her attack on my predecessor today was really bad too. Despite being so wrong early on, it was SO obvious that Shadow_Step was town based on how he cc'd Eagersnake.

I was scumreading Prism all the way up until he said he was going to replace out. I don't think scum would ever do that out of frustration from being caught. It's just poor sportsmanship especially if Shadow had called the scumteam. I get that this may be a controversial reason to have a read but Prism's almost replacing out pretty much confirms him as town for me. But I'm making a note to ISO him just to be sure.

So, I'm fairly confident boring's partner is between Dierfire and nn30. Knowing I was wrong about Prism, one of my townreads on either Dierfire or nn30 is also wrong. It seems the consensus is that Dierfire is boring's partner but I think I want to read both their ISOs to see if I feel the same way as the others.

In the meantime, @Implosion, if you could explain to me why nn30 is town (or just link me to posts if you've done this already), that would be fantastic. I was actually leaning the opposite way (nn30 being scummier than Dierfire) but that's from memory and I need to re-read. Either way, I want to go with Boring first since that's who I think will definitely flip scum, and then worry about who her partner is tomorrow.

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