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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:47 pm
by PenguinPower
Ugh, RQS is a waste of time. RVS is so much better. :roll:

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:48 pm
by Grendel
Is that a joke post, or your legitimate feelings?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:49 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 41, boring wrote:
In post 40, Gamma Emerald wrote:Nah Eager is lame, you're the one I want to see in action!
Dude, you're like the most adorable derp... You and I just played a game together, remember? It ended like 20 hours ago.
Yeah but I subbed in.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:55 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 51, Grendel wrote:Is that a joke post, or your legitimate feelings?
Oh, great. Even more questions...


:P

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:04 pm
by Grendel
So you are joking then.

Will you answer the original questions now?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:05 pm
by eagerSnake
In post 50, PenguinPower wrote:Ugh, RQS is a waste of time. RVS is so much better. :roll:
What is so much better about it?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:18 pm
by Zoronos
I just got news that a good friend passed, so I might be afk a bit tonight. Sorry. Or maybe I'll be no filter posting we'll see.

Random non-game-related questions are an easy way to fake content. So, no, they're beyond useless and actively scummy. They should not be humoured, especially when they appear tangentially game related since that just makes it easier to disguise that they aren't a form of scum hunting.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:20 pm
by Zoronos
In post 38, Gamma Emerald wrote:I expect more from the ultimate scum lord!
I am out of the loop or maybe just missing an in joke. Mind explaining this?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:21 pm
by Zoronos
If it's just an OOC joke then don't bother explaining I don't care about those.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:22 pm
by eagerSnake
I can explain it: boring is good as scum, we are fear lynching them.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:23 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 57, Zoronos wrote:
In post 38, Gamma Emerald wrote:I expect more from the ultimate scum lord!
I am out of the loop or maybe just missing an in joke. Mind explaining this?
Boring has only played scum games so far and if I remember correctly she won
all
of them. I was even present for the latter part of one.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:24 pm
by implosion
Alright, let's see.
Zoronos wrote:Oh man my first game in like a year.
Now I have to remember how to play.
Awkward first post, the sort of typical scum who feels like they should say something but can't think of anything to say.
eagerSnake wrote:Might as well tell you guys now I have the Ascetic modifier so don't waste actions on me.
This feels reeeeeeally like a scummy claim to me. Pings me really very hard. Feels like a mafia ascetic trying to act like a town ascetic. It also doesn't necessarily reduce the negative effect of ascetic to claim it, as, if town, eagerSnake is now a free nightkill if scum want to kill him.

Gamma's reaction to the claim is town. is not; calling it interesting without giving any comment on what it makes them think of eager's alignment is scummy, and it follows the trend set by their RVS in that it's very empty commentary that feels like scum saying things for the sake of saying things.

Zoronos' to me is potentially indicative that he's saying these things because he's bored but I feel like if he was bored town he would at least try to analyze the ascetic claim a bit beyond calling it "interesting."

That's it for up until my last post, gonna split this here to avoid wallposting too early.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:29 pm
by eagerSnake
In post 61, implosion wrote:This feels reeeeeeally like a scummy claim to me. Pings me really very hard. Feels like a mafia ascetic trying to act like a town ascetic. It also doesn't necessarily reduce the negative effect of ascetic to claim it, as, if town, eagerSnake is now a free nightkill if scum want to kill him.
Why aren't you voting me then? If you're going to try and push popular opinion in this light then vote me you scared child

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:32 pm
by Gamma Emerald
He has half a wall to go.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:33 pm
by implosion
Grendel's opening post is also potentially scummy.
Grendel wrote:Anybody up for some questions?

I've been finishing up a new set I want to use.
Why not just ask the questions? This seems unnecessarily roundabout.
Grendel wrote:If its cool I'd like you all to leave me to analyze them,
If this is non-sarcastic then I'm holding you to this - I'd like to hear what actual alignment-indicative or otherwise useful content you're getting out of these questions.

Also of all games to feel like you need to force an RQS or RVS, this is a very silly one. We have
a claim.
On page one. An unusual one at that. We have a goldmine of material to analyze already - why do you feel the need to instigate an RQS? RQS and RVS as they're usually conceived are both kind of outdated anyway. There's usually enough substance in the first few posts to get reads that are legitimate enough to argue about, even if they're very unstable.

Zoronos, you're implying a scumread on Grendel; why not follow it up with a vote?
eagerSnake wrote:Why aren't you voting me then? If you're going to try and push popular opinion in this light then vote me you scared child
A number of reasons.

VOTE: Zoronos

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:33 pm
by Zoronos
Saying an ascetic claim is scummy is foolish; it is strictly non alignment determining. If you are town, you claim it to avoid wasting an NA. If you are scum, you claim it to avoid a cop hit.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:35 pm
by eagerSnake
Well word of advice everyone don't sheep that guy's opinions

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:38 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Don't worry I can think for myself thank you very much

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:41 pm
by eagerSnake
I usually try to form a good town-block and then consider the best scum-hunter of the block as the wise elder

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:45 pm
by Gamma Emerald
What happened to "everyone starts scummy"?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:46 pm
by Zoronos
In post 64, implosion wrote:Zoronos, you're implying a scumread on Grendel; why not follow it up with a vote?
Because I don't vote the instant I have an inkling of suspicion. Or moreover, because the simple act of asking the questions isn't necessarily scum play. Using the questions as a sole form of contribution on the other hand is (which doesn't necessarily mean Grendel, a townie putting down that kind of list gives the scum room to dwell on it to contribute, so it isn't even that Grendel is scum for doing it, it's just pro-scum to exist). So yes, I'd rather take the hard line early and nip camouflaging play in the bud.

Or maybe these boards don't have a conception of 'fake content' or maybe I'm using the wrong jargon to explain the idea. If I'm unclear, well.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:48 pm
by eagerSnake
In post 69, Gamma Emerald wrote:What happened to "everyone starts scummy"?
They do, and as people do things I feel are townish I try to form a town-block out of those people

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:48 pm
by boring
In post 60, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 57, Zoronos wrote:
In post 38, Gamma Emerald wrote:I expect more from the ultimate scum lord!
I am out of the loop or maybe just missing an in joke. Mind explaining this?
Boring has only played scum games so far and if I remember correctly she won
all
of them. I was even present for the latter part of one.
No. I only won two.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:09 pm
by boring
In post 68, eagerSnake wrote:I usually try to form a good town-block and then consider the best scum-hunter of the block as the wise elder
I applaud the sentiment if it's genuine, but how do you intend to build a townblock in one day? You're either going to be NK'd for being conf. town, or you're going to survive the night, and anyone you'd want for your town block will have a healthy dose of distrust for you. I think you might have to table that plan for now.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:13 pm
by eagerSnake
In post 73, boring wrote:I applaud the sentiment if it's genuine, but how do you intend to build a townblock in one day? You're either going to be NK'd for being conf. town, or you're going to survive the night, and anyone you'd want for your town block will have a healthy dose of distrust for you. I think you might have to table that plan for now.
It's OK; I'm not afraid to die, or afraid of people having distrust of me.