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mykonian

(4): Road Kamelot, Joshz, gigabyteTroubadour, Transcend

Gamma Emerald

(3): Errantparabola, ssbm_Kyouko, MariaR

ssbm_Kyouko

(2): kraska77, MTD

gerryoat

(1): XnadrojX

Road Kamelot

(1): mykonian

Transcend

(1): Gamma Emerald

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: gerryoat

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-11-22 17:06:00)

[Transcend]

Reason I'm not talking much is I feel like shit today and everything I read goes out the other ear but that's not really a good excuse.

You're right.

It isn't.

Rest of your game looks bleh as well.

Like it's not scummy, but it's objectively not towny?

[mykonian]

ho's scum with Road Kamelot?

Surely you have other scumreads besides her... tell me what you're thinking.

Kraska I remember as being much more involved in the game I modded with her. You (transcend) have come into this game reading the first 2 pages, then making it all about me and how you want to vote me, then skimmed the next 12 and are set on lynching, doesn't look town. Josh I still haven't seen anything from and he's getting a free pass, null leaning scum. Same for gerry but he's simply not here, less intimidating. Maria would be my blind spot scum, she got off to a good start sounding reasonable, and hasn't really been challenged along the way, they tend to trip me up. Same goes for MTD, but less pronounced. Doesn't help that I like him. I think I have gamma pegged, EP looked towniest, the rest takes time.

[MariaR]

Reason I'm not talking much is I feel like shit today and everything I read goes out the other ear but that's not really a good excuse.

You're right.

It isn't.

Rest of your game looks bleh as well.

Like it's not scummy, but it's objectively not towny?

I'm not trying to be towny? I'm trying to play a game

[mykonian]

4 scum can happen with 13 players

multiball, otherwise I haven't seen it. And 2-2-9's aren't that popular, SK's have seen a sharp decline. Either way you'll get a sign, if there are multiple kills n1 you can think about it again.

[MariaR]

I'll find scum tell people who and you'll either lynch me sheep me or lose.
Dear god I can be annoying when I'm bitchy

[Joshz]

I wonder if transcends reply to Jordan's read post is just illusion of truth speaking and it isn't actually him

[Gamma Emerald]

4 scum can happen with 13 players

multiball, otherwise I haven't seen it. And 2-2-9's aren't that popular, SK's have seen a sharp decline. Either way you'll get a sign, if there are multiple kills n1 you can think about it again.

I played a game with 3 mafia and a traitor
Was oddly balanced though so it doesn't really apply here I guess

[Transcend]

ho's scum with Road Kamelot?

Surely you have other scumreads besides her... tell me what you're thinking.

Kraska I remember as being much more involved in the game I modded with her. You (transcend) have come into this game reading the first 2 pages, then making it all about me and how you want to vote me, then skimmed the next 12 and are set on lynching, doesn't look town. Josh I still haven't seen anything from and he's getting a free pass, null leaning scum. Same for gerry but he's simply not here, less intimidating. Maria would be my blind spot scum, she got off to a good start sounding reasonable, and hasn't really been challenged along the way, they tend to trip me up. Same goes for MTD, but less pronounced. Doesn't help that I like him. I think I have gamma pegged, EP looked towniest, the rest takes time.

can agree with you about MariaR.

so you have all these scumreads or at least "non-townreads" and it took me questioning your motives to out all of these???

[MariaR]

I think I'll be better when I'm in a better mood so prob tomorrow rn any thinking I want to do is like "lol nope"

[mykonian]

yeah? They don't have particular posts they relate to, so I can't center an argumentation and discussion around a particular post and I don't want to lynch people right now, so I don't throw it in the thread. And first half of day one is too soon to post lists of reads.

[Transcend]

i disagree

i read people by seeing if their thought process throughout the game is genuine

so it's really helpful for me to see reads lists as early as possible.

[MariaR]

Reads lists are traps and are really bad and I only use them because people get pissy if I don't
you shouldn't use them unless forced.

[Joshz]

Read lists are good imo. If you see everyone's you can establish patterns, such as x person being consistently scum read. A single read list is meh though unless it's a confirmed townie which is rare

[MariaR]

I've said this so many times.
Reads list help scum more then they do town because scum can know if they're playing right in someone's eyes or if they need to change there play I am okay with reads list bare but if you ever explain it I call you stupid I pref none at all though.

[Gamma Emerald]

Reads lists are traps and are really bad and I only use them because people get pissy if I don't
you shouldn't use them unless forced.

I usually give them when pressured
I'll sometimes take initiative

[mykonian]

They are the easiest way for scum to pretend they are doing some reading. Just post a list, sounds impressive, you only have to post half a sentence as a reason, and everybody is happy with you. The reads don't matter shit, it's the argumentation, the motive, the timing. Anybody can make up reads from thin air, esspecially if they are trying to allign those reads with what popular opinion says. End of the day I'll want to know your reads, halfway? Couldn't care less.

Which for the record should tip you off that gamma is town. He's very much going with the flow, but gets called out on a maria suspicion (very not done, and scum could happily easily avoid that). Hence, likely he's actually showing some town initiative.

[Transcend]

Idk this game just needs to play out a bit more, it's still early yet.

I doubt I solved the game honestly, but ya never know.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Fuck it w.e

SSBM: earlier you said I'm onto gamma. What did you mean by this?


Everyone else: are there likely 3 or 4 scum? I don't know how it's usually set up here

I said that because I saw your 255. As I said in that post, I had drafted up a post about why gamma is my #1 suspect, but was waiting to post it. You said something that I had thought of but not yet posted, so I pointed it out. I like you more for town now. I also like that gigabyte addressed Gamma's RQS in a constructive way instead of just answering and giving away info that could potentially aid scum!Gamma, but I had already posted my Gamma thoughts at that point so I don't lean town for him as much as I do you.

[Gamma Emerald]

LOL ssbm throws out townreads to people who agree with them

[Gamma Emerald]

*him, not them

[Joshz]

Ok here u go I am not explaining

Player List:
mykonian - scum
MTD - slight town
Errantparabola - strong town
Road Kamelot - neutral
Transcend rep. Kane - slight town
gigabyteTroubadour rep. Rem - slight town
kraska77 - neutral
Joshz - vamp
ssbm_Kyouko - slight cum
XnadrojX - slight scum
MariaR - slight scum
gerryoat - scummier than everyone besides myk and gamma
Gamma Emerald - see above, not as bad as myk


This is all a waste of time until we get a flip to work with tbqh

[MariaR]

I'm pretty sure Gamma lied or made something up and I dislike his reaction because you said your "big plan" has to do with josh and when I push you you're just like "back off!"
See it's much better when I don't have to read pages full of bs

[Joshz]

ssbm_Kyouko you are cum

[MariaR]

Ok here u go I am not explaining

Player List:
mykonian - scum
MTD - slight town
Errantparabola - strong town
Road Kamelot - neutral
Transcend rep. Kane - slight town
gigabyteTroubadour rep. Rem - slight town
kraska77 - neutral
Joshz - vamp
ssbm_Kyouko - slight cum
XnadrojX - slight scum
MariaR - slight scum
gerryoat - scummier than everyone besides myk and gamma
Gamma Emerald - see above, not as bad as myk


This is all a waste of time until we get a flip to work with tbqh

VOTE: josh What the fk did I just read

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