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[FrankJaeger]

Im liking Hiraki so far

What do you like about him?

Tbh I'm not a fan atm.

His last 2 posts especially seem towny to me.
(Not the ???)

[FrankJaeger]

Sorry 57 and 66

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Feels like it could be. Might give us an understanding of how he or she plays.

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Yeah, there is no way to prove it.

We just have to take his(her?) word for it.

Any actual debate about it is incidentally also anti-town.

Why would it be anti-town? You seem to be trying to shutdown a discussion that could potentially help in the long run.

[TwoFace]

Knowing if somebody is or isn't an alt isn't ever going to be helpful for the sake of the game though.

[Hiraki]

meta doesn't help that much, just to amplify twoface's post and fj's point

not anti-town but i won't take part in that conversation - rather find tangible tells than intangible ones

[MisaTange]

I kind of understand what LUV is coming from though because knowing that someone is a site-newbie or not helps reads.

but yeah we shouldn't be overly reliant on meta

[TwiszTed]

If TVD wanted to be known by another name, he'd tell us what it is.

Please have a quantum of respect and move on to relevant discussion.

[FrankJaeger]

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Feels like it could be. Might give us an understanding of how he or she plays.

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Yeah, there is no way to prove it.

We just have to take his(her?) word for it.

Any actual debate about it is incidentally also anti-town.

Why would it be anti-town? You seem to be trying to shutdown a discussion that could potentially help in the long run.

The

potential

chance of them saying "ok you caught me Im an alt" is slim to none.

Even then, it doesnt prove scum.

What else are you expecting out of discussing this?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Meta has been helping me a bit more recently but I think you guys are right, don't want to be overly reliant on it. I've seen quite a few players addicted to using it and I don't want to end up like them.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Feels like it could be. Might give us an understanding of how he or she plays.

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Yeah, there is no way to prove it.

We just have to take his(her?) word for it.

Any actual debate about it is incidentally also anti-town.

Why would it be anti-town? You seem to be trying to shutdown a discussion that could potentially help in the long run.

The

potential

chance of them saying "ok you caught me Im an alt" is slim to none.

Even then, it doesnt prove scum.

What else are you expecting out of discussing this?

Never said that it would prove anything, just that it could potentially help in the long run if he or she choose to reveal his/her main account.

[MisaTange]

Speaking of which I still want TVD to respond to my 65.

[FrankJaeger]

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Feels like it could be. Might give us an understanding of how he or she plays.

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Yeah, there is no way to prove it.

We just have to take his(her?) word for it.

Any actual debate about it is incidentally also anti-town.

Why would it be anti-town? You seem to be trying to shutdown a discussion that could potentially help in the long run.

The

potential

chance of them saying "ok you caught me Im an alt" is slim to none.

Even then, it doesnt prove scum.

What else are you expecting out of discussing this?

Never said that it would prove anything, just that it could potentially help in the long run if he or she choose to reveal his/her main account.

Ok.

I never said you said that.

I'm thinking that my reply made it obvious I read your post. why repeat yourself?

Sorry Im feeling petty

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Feels like it could be. Might give us an understanding of how he or she plays.

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Yeah, there is no way to prove it.

We just have to take his(her?) word for it.

Any actual debate about it is incidentally also anti-town.

Why would it be anti-town? You seem to be trying to shutdown a discussion that could potentially help in the long run.

The

potential

chance of them saying "ok you caught me Im an alt" is slim to none.

Even then, it doesnt prove scum.

What else are you expecting out of discussing this?

Never said that it would prove anything, just that it could potentially help in the long run if he or she choose to reveal his/her main account.

Ok.

I never said you said that.

I'm thinking that my reply made it obvious I read your post. why repeat yourself?

Sorry Im feeling petty

It's cool. Just seemed like you are implying you thought I did.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I guess my main thing with how this started was how it was labeled as a push rather than bringing something into the spotlight. I can see newb town doing the latter or even a player who's not familiar with MS meta which is why I'm curious as to whether TVD is an alt or not as well as his or her experience.

Looking forward to his/her response as well as everyone who hasn't chimed in yet but I have a feeling that TVD might be the most optimal play for today. Especially since I've been a little suspicious ever since he/she asked such an odd question regarding RVS.

[Hiraki]

unvote, vote: lil uzi vert

[Lil Uzi Vert]

unvote, vote: lil uzi vert

Mind explaining?

[Hiraki]

1) talking all of this shit that's getting us just about nowhere

2) you're suspicious of a question

3) "I can see newb town" -> "TVD might be the optimal play for today"

it reeks of opportunity

[Gamma Emerald]

town does not come in heavy hinting their PR on their first post

Do you know him enough to say that?

You know me well enough to gauge.
What is your take on all this?

None of this wishy-washy "doesn't mean anything" bullcrap plz.

I think you're someone who likes to troll. You'd totally do that as any role I feel.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@

Hiraki:

I'm curious as what else you or Ted want me to talk about while we are waiting for 4 replacements.

What's wrong with being suspicious of a question?

Don't get your last point. Especially after I said how I'm looking forward to others thoughts on the matter. If I was opportunistic like you seem to be implying, I would have voted for TVD already.

[Gamma Emerald]

1) talking all of this shit that's getting us just about nowhere

What makes you say this?

2) you're suspicious of a question

I was too, I think many were

3) "I can see newb town" -> "TVD might be the optimal play for today"

Not mutually exclusive

[TheseViolentDelights]

town does not come in heavy hinting their PR on their first post

VOTE: TheseViolentDelights

Town doesn't push a PR crumber because anyone making such posts drastically reduces their lifespan.

Only scum has reason to want to kill a PR.

Ok.

So from a town perspective; If you roll a PR you're going to want to stay quiet about it. It doesn't make sense to come in and alert everybody that you're a PR like that, because that gets you killed, and renders you useless.

Ari has been around long enough to know this. You people haven't.

From a scum perspective, you're not going to lie about being a PR right out of the gate because staying alive will raise eyebrows.

Not really, no. Aristo coming in and making it pretty obvious like that without giving away what the role is means that all we know is that he's a power role.

Basically, if we're like hey Ari why aren't u dead yet, he can just claim that he's a BP or even that someone protected him. The "well he'd die as town" perspective looks good on paper, not really in practice.

TVD - do your page 2 questions imply that your page 1 vote was somewhat serious

Not at the time, why? I don't see how they're connected.

you get much better by the end of page 2 but the stuff you say at the top is pretty nonsensical but since we're on page 3 i think we can just pretend that never happened

Thank's for your offer, but no.

VOTE: TheseViolentDelights
obvious Aero alt

I thought the same

why. Do I play like them?

Ari seemed like he was either reaction testing or being sarcastic. Leaning the latter.

I think TVD is hiding how experienced based on his response to Gamma's 48. He dodges a very simple and straight forward question. Can anyone else find any other logical reason(s) as to why he would answer in such a way? I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

Again, I really didn't dodge shit.

The account on my home site has the reputation of being very handsome

@TVD: You mentioned you have mafia experience. What type of mafia? How long? You don't have to mention specific sites if you don't want to.

Site-mafia. Just over three years.

[Creeps20]

@

Hiraki:

I'm curious as what else you or Ted want me to talk about while we are waiting for 4 replacements.

What's wrong with being suspicious of a question?

Don't get your last point. Especially after I said how I'm looking forward to others thoughts on the matter. If I was opportunistic like you seem to be implying, I would have voted for TVD already.

We don't need a full game to start scum hunting. It is just less efficient.

At least I find it that way

My first post

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: TheseViolentDelights
obvious Aero alt

I thought the same

why. Do I play like them?

Aero's sig has your username in it

[Hiraki]

What makes you say this?

hey is tvd someone that's on the site

a) yes

OK so then let's look at his meta

wow we're at page 4-5 so this really doesn't mean anything

b) no

kk

we literally gain nothing

I was too, I think many were

zzz

Not mutually exclusive

can you re-read this? just once or twice?

What's wrong with being suspicious of a question?

please tell me what scum would gain for asking that question rather than town

it's literally nothing

Not at the time, why? I don't see how they're connected.

quite honestly don't remember but i'm sure someone will remind me

i think it was something already resolved by now

Thank's for your offer, but no.

@

Hiraki:

I'm curious as what else you or Ted want me to talk about while we are waiting for 4 replacements.

What's wrong with being suspicious of a question?

Don't get your last point. Especially after I said how I'm looking forward to others thoughts on the matter. If I was opportunistic like you seem to be implying, I would have voted for TVD already.

We don't need a full game to start scum hunting. It is just less efficient.

At least I find it that way

My first post

one of my favorite posts all game bud

you have at least 50+ games from me on my meta that you can look at - can you pinpoint my alignment lil uzi?????

[TheseViolentDelights]

Whoops, I've said too much... :S

VOTE: Fitz
Don't like the sarcasm in the jump on Io. I dislike the vote by Io on an empty slot, but I dislike your vote there more.

What do you mean the sarcasm? All they did was vote. If there's anything to not like, it's the naked vote, and even that is a pretty silly thing to not like seeing as it's page fucking 1

Do you agree with IO's theory?

Im liking Hiraki so far

What do you like about him?

Tbh I'm not a fan atm.

Why aren't you a fan of Hiraki?

Also, why did you decline to comment on the discussion about you?

im sorry i don't want to suck your ego off about your softcrumb that's stupid

i can't wait to hear in day 3 that it was just a prank bro ))))))))))))))))

See, I now like you better already

What makes you suspect it's all just a prank?

See; this is even worse. Ari is now perpetuating the "I might be a PR, I might not be" narrative; once again, do you see town A) asking more people about this 'accidentally' slipped PR, or do you see town saying shit maybe we shouldn't talk about this so openly

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Feels like it could be. Might give us an understanding of how he or she plays.

I have a feeling he's an alt and is afraid to give himself away because of the reputation of his old account.

(maybe it's not important)

disclaimer: i honestly know nothing

Yeah, there is no way to prove it.

We just have to take his(her?) word for it.

Any actual debate about it is incidentally also anti-town.

Why would it be anti-town? You seem to be trying to shutdown a discussion that could potentially help in the long run.

It does not help in the long run. You know the only information that is valuable, that I know your meta, and know how to play the game. Everything else is busy-talk.

I guess my main thing with how this started was how it was labeled as a push rather than bringing something into the spotlight. I can see newb town doing the latter or even a player who's not familiar with MS meta which is why I'm curious as to whether TVD is an alt or not as well as his or her experience.

Looking forward to his/her response as well as everyone who hasn't chimed in yet but I have a feeling that TVD might be the most optimal play for today. Especially since I've been a little suspicious ever since he/she asked such an odd question regarding RVS.

Ok.... so I'm newbtown, but I'm the "optimal play?"

both statements are wrong, both statements point to you being scum.

@

Hiraki:

I'm curious as what else you or Ted want me to talk about while we are waiting for 4 replacements.

What's wrong with being suspicious of a question?

Don't get your last point. Especially after I said how I'm looking forward to others thoughts on the matter.

If I was opportunistic like you seem to be implying, I would have voted for TVD already.

Yeah. The fact that you're throwing shade without actually voting is honestly much worse. The bolded just shows your scum thought process for doing so.

You're sitting here talking about how I'm not really "pushing" my read, yet you're not even voting for yours.

1) talking all of this shit that's getting us just about nowhere

What makes you say this?

2) you're suspicious of a question

I was too, I think many were

3) "I can see newb town" -> "TVD might be the optimal play for today"

Not mutually exclusive

What are you talking about? They are absolutely mutually exclusive.

VOTE: TheseViolentDelights
obvious Aero alt

I thought the same

why. Do I play like them?

Aero's sig has your username in it

Aero must also like Shakespeare?