Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.

TwoFace · Post Post #975 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:41 am

In post 973, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 962, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also, explain my play if I'm scum, regardless of red herrings.
@Ircher

After you do that. Lay out your case on the guy you put L-2

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #976 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:59 am

In post 874, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 46, Asphodel wrote: Self-meta-ing a little bit from my games on the other site,
I very rarely, if ever try to push for my partners to be lynched as scum.
That's for a few reasons. It was a pretty tight-knit group over there, and there was no cardflip in many of the games. Like, over a span of 20 or so scum games, I remember the single time I voted for a scum partner, and even that doesn't really count because my partner made a really terrible counterclaim. That's not to say I never scumread my partners, I just avoided seriously putting my vote on them because 48 hours is not a very long time.

A red flip will be V interesting. I'm confused as to why, as town, you'd be saying that or really anything regarding how you play as red?

I like the conclusion that because there is no day chat, this is his form of telling his partners he won't be pushing them if they get sus.

Asphodel, you should be posting within the next hour or two if you keep up with the same posting pattern and if so, I'd LOVE for you to respond to this

-Grey- · Post Post #977 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:05 pm

In post 968, Ircher wrote:Besudes, TwoFace is guilty of confirmation!bias or being scum.

Which is it?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #978 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:07 pm

In post 968, Ircher wrote:Besudes, TwoFace is guilty of confirmation!bias or being scum.

You're fence sitting...

P-Edit: mini ninja

TwoFace · Post Post #979 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:11 pm

In post 843, Naomi-Tan wrote:Okay read up again.

Why didn't you comment on anything after this? That's not like you.

In post 901, Naomi-Tan wrote:
In post 879, -Grey- wrote:
In post 868, Gamma Emerald wrote:The reason I am 180ing is because I have a plan for seeing if Grey is really a cop.
I'm sure my death will clear things up nicely.
Well... given your claim I think you being shot Is a given.. I mean unless another strong PR is exposed a Cop is a pretty good target.

Nothing until this post which is sort of obvious.

You see why I think you're scum? This isn't town Naomi.

TwoFace · Post Post #980 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:13 pm

In post 978, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 968, Ircher wrote:Besudes, TwoFace is guilty of confirmation!bias or being scum.
You're fence sitting...

P-Edit: mini ninja

Well he is voting me ATM but that was more cause I wouldn't reread his iso.

krylea · Post Post #981 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:14 pm

Notice how now that we have Ircher cornered he stopped replying?

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #982 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:16 pm

Okay so he's voting but he's fence sitting on his motivation as to why he's voting you.

If he thinks a townie has conf bias, he shouldn't vote them because he bloody thinks they're town.

If he just said scum it would have been fine but he doesn't want to leave out any options off the table so he can talk his way out of it.

TwoFace · Post Post #983 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:16 pm

He's making a new list read...

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #984 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:20 pm

I actually can't wait to see it, I got some ideas brainstorming right now and I can think about it over dinner tonight.

Ircher, if you could hook me up with that reads list in like, the next 20 minutes that'd be great

ISO · Post Post #985 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:03 pm

In post 970, TwoFace wrote:Ircher. Why does your grey read change 180 after he claims? If you're scum reading him before his claim, you should still be scum reading him after.

I'll address this later.

ISO · Post Post #986 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:04 pm

In post 972, TwoFace wrote:
In post 967, Ircher wrote:
In post 965, krylea wrote:963 and 964 are very good posts. I agree with Alisae and 2F, this all looks like excuses to make posts that appear to have content without actually scumhunting. I don't know what your definition of IIoA is Grey, but that pretty much fits mine.
How is 964 a good post?

Readslist is a playstyle thing. Not a scumtell.
Never said it's a scumtell. But reads lists aren't scum hunting. You havent done much if any of that.

You're acting townie without actually being townie

Freaking read my ISO.

Stop misrepping.

ISO · Post Post #987 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:05 pm

In post 974, TwoFace wrote:
In post 970, TwoFace wrote:Ircher. Why does your grey read change 180 after he claims? If you're scum reading him before his claim, you should still be scum reading him after.
Ircher votes grey like 3/4 times.

Then votes Naomi for the slip

Think he votes grey again

Then bam 180, grey is town now.

Votes gamma cause he thinks gamma is lying.

Hops on the aphro train with no explanation at all.

Sure I may be guilty of a little conf bias now, but i became suspicious of ircher way back based on his posts when I had no read on him at all.

No, you've been tunneling me practically the entire game.

ISO · Post Post #988 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:06 pm

In post 977, -Grey- wrote:
In post 968, Ircher wrote:Besudes, TwoFace is guilty of confirmation!bias or being scum.
Which is it?

In post 978, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 968, Ircher wrote:Besudes, TwoFace is guilty of confirmation!bias or being scum.
You're fence sitting...

P-Edit: mini ninja

That, I do not know yet.

ISO · Post Post #989 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:08 pm

In post 984, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I actually can't wait to see it, I got some ideas brainstorming right now and I can think about it over dinner tonight.

Ircher, if you could hook me up with that reads list in like, the next 20 minutes that'd be great

It takes a long while to go through the ISOs.

Unlike TwoFace over here, a GOOD readslist WITH reasons takes a lot of time to make.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #990 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:10 pm

In post 973, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 962, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also, explain my play if I'm scum, regardless of red herrings.
@Ircher

TwoFace · Post Post #991 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:13 pm

In post 986, Ircher wrote:Freaking read my ISO. Stop misrepping.

I have. I'm not

TwoFace · Post Post #992 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:15 pm

In post 987, Ircher wrote:No, you've been scum reading me practically the entire game.

Fixed.

If I was tunneling you the entire game I would have voted you a long time ago and left by vote there.

Learn to tell the difference between scum reading and tunneling

krylea · Post Post #993 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:16 pm

Hey, look, more baseless accusations in place of actual explanations!

TwoFace · Post Post #994 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:17 pm

In post 989, Ircher wrote:Unlike TwoFace over here, a GOOD readslist WITH reasons takes a lot of time to make.

Which is why they are a waste of time. There's other reasons why they are bad but that's above your pay grade.

TwoFace · Post Post #995 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:28 pm

Ircher. What does != mean to you? I've never seen anyone use that particular combination before.

krylea · Post Post #996 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:30 pm

In post 995, TwoFace wrote:Ircher. What does != mean to you? I've never seen anyone use that particular combination before.

It means 'is not equal to'. It's a computer programming thing.

TwoFace · Post Post #997 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:31 pm

Why not use =/=?

Well that changed my opinion on one post

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #998 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:47 pm

In post 989, Ircher wrote:
In post 984, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I actually can't wait to see it, I got some ideas brainstorming right now and I can think about it over dinner tonight.

Ircher, if you could hook me up with that reads list in like, the next 20 minutes that'd be great
It takes a long while to go through the ISOs.

Unlike TwoFace over here, a GOOD readslist WITH reasons takes a lot of time to make.

Dude, a reads list is done like once a day. We don't need a Reads List1.X from you all the time; it's overselling it

-Grey- · Post Post #999 (ISO) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:54 pm

In post 997, TwoFace wrote:Why not use =/=?

Well that changed my opinion on one post

!= is what I'm used to seeing most often outside of this site, actually.