Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.

Naomi-Tan · Post Post #2500 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:06 am

So.. we had a an extremely low chance of victory given the setup :/ Im not sure how this crossed normalisation check.

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #2501 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:07 am

As a traitor, you have the ability to join your faction and make yourself known lol

Naomi-Tan · Post Post #2502 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:09 am

I didn't know my faction.

Naomi-Tan · Post Post #2503 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:11 am

XnadrojX wrote: You are a Traitor Encryptor Enabler
Your power is in your vote, and you may post during the day.
In addition, you are an Enabler, tied to Encryptor. While you are alive, Encryptor can work, but once you are dead, Encryptor is disabled. As well as that, you are a Traitor, and you do not know your faction members
You are aligned with the Mafia and win when the Mafia is the last faction standing.

Thats my role pm verbatim

TwoFace · Post Post #2504 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:15 am

next time don't give town information that hurts your faction.

the moment you said you didn't know your partners and the mod confirmed that was true, I was dead.

had you not said anything, people would have assumed this was the normal version of traitor and your vote on me may have bought me just enough to possible survive.

Naomi-Tan · Post Post #2505 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:16 am

So. If we break it down.

If any mafia member dies we have no day talk anymore
If gamma dies we lost a PR
If RD died we lost all power Roles.

VS

3-Shot Neighbouriser,
A SK
2-Shot Cop
A Jailor

TheRealGin-N-Tonic · Post Post #2506 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:16 am

How is that pro-scum?

TwoFace · Post Post #2507 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:16 am

also don't give up until you are sure you are lynched. claiming scum at L-1 wasn't good and I had no choice but to hammer

Naomi-Tan · Post Post #2508 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:17 am

In post 2507, TwoFace wrote:also don't give up until you are sure you are lynched. claiming scum at L-1 wasn't good and I had no choice but to hammer

they told me I was hammered.

Naomi-Tan · Post Post #2509 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:17 am

In post 2506, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:How is that pro-scum?

Its not Its EXTREMELY PRO-TOWN

TwoFace · Post Post #2510 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:18 am

I think the setup was fine actually. scum lost cause scum didn't play optimally and town got lucky

p.edit - ok? check yourself. hell even if you were hammered, you didn't have to say anything. as scum give town little to no info

TwoFace · Post Post #2511 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:22 am

I never once considered the possibility of having a traitor. I can't remember if I have ever played with a traitor on this site before.

inspectorscout · Post Post #2512 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:08 am

I thought non-normal roles needed a full rolecard flip in normal games, but I'm unsure. I don't think you can blame jordan for that.

About the balance of the game; the serial killer also hurts town by a large amount. A neighborizer is often seen as null power, and the cop - if claimed, can't get protected while getting results.
In total, this game didn't have much power on any side; that's not bad at all, since there were 2 anti-town 'factions'. I wasn't involved in the review process, but I would've passed this as well. His choices may have been bold, but definitely not unreasonable.

Town played really well. They had their ups and downs, but got back to their wincon every time: lynching scum.

Human Sequencer · Post Post #2513 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:09 am

^incredible post
you should apply that methodological mind to your games!

TwoFace · Post Post #2514 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:10 am

I don't blame jordan for anything, he was asked a question and he answered it. The question probably wouldn't have been asked had naomi not said anything though.

inspectorscout · Post Post #2515 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:27 am

In post 2513, Human Sequencer wrote:^incredible post
you should apply that methodological mind to your games!

I wish I could. This is numbers and theoretical power, thinking of possible scenarios and stuff. I can't think like that about humans, sadly. Also, my sense of balance is still mainly gut, just like my reads.

Anyway, this game isn't mine so I shouldn't clutter postgame discussion.
Cheers!

-Grey- · Post Post #2516 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:42 am

In post 2495, Human Sequencer wrote:dashie, you're probably the best player in this game, what was wrong with my play this game, and how can i improve in the future?

Bullshit.

Fakeclaiming Miller to call shenanigans on a cop claim is retarded because Miller points to the existence of Cop.

If you think that comes from good play, idk what to tell you.

TwoFace · Post Post #2517 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:06 am

She hasn't a bad game but hands down she's the best player in the player list.

TwoFace · Post Post #2518 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:06 am

She played*

-Grey- · Post Post #2519 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:10 am

Great players are always lynched d1 over shitty play.

TwoFace · Post Post #2520 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:38 am

And shitty players get lucky and end the game with I nflated egos...

ISO · Post Post #2521 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:38 pm

In post 2446, XnadrojX wrote:And with that, it's a huge

TOWN VICTORY

TwoFace the Mafia Goon was lynched! Will reveal setup stuff when I get home to my computer.

Noice.

ISO · Post Post #2522 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:39 pm

In post 2459, ThinkBig wrote:Adding a SK + Traitor was an interesting choice. Though I think that may have actually made it a bit town sided.

Not really imo.

ISO · Post Post #2523 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:41 pm

In post 2476, ThinkBig wrote:Yeah it was. Ircher died when he was recruited and all alone kinda dropped off.

I love neighborhoods.

Probably my biggest screw up, but oh well...

ISO · Post Post #2524 (ISO) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:46 pm

In post 2477, -Grey- wrote:
In post 2472, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 2470, -Grey- wrote:
In post 2468, ThinkBig wrote:Hey -grey-, where do you think I can improve from this game? Any feedback?
I honestly stopped following the game for the most part... sorry!
It's all good.

TBH, I haven't even read the part of the game before I replaced in.
You should read d1, at least the second half of it.

If I hadn't rammed the RainbowDash Lynch down people's throats, they probably would have skated to endgame on a fake Miller claim.

Definitely true BUT I had to force Gin onto the wagon.