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[Eddie Cane]

ircher dude you said this in the dead thread too but it's just wrong. you had openly faked a claim to derail your wagon, and you voted with the scum against the gunsmith. you should not have made it to lylo. it's not fair to yell at Titus when she made the right shot.

[nancy]

Wait LUV was in this game?

Also, TB has been out and proud on MS for a while.

[rb]

ircher dude you said this in the dead thread too but it's just wrong. you had openly faked a claim to derail your wagon, and you voted with the scum against the gunsmith. you should not have made it to lylo. it's not fair to yell at Titus when she made the right shot.

the reason im blacklisting ircher

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Wait LUV was in this game?

Also, TB has been out and proud on MS for a while.

Nah I was following along though

[MathBlade]

ircher dude you said this in the dead thread too but it's just wrong. you had openly faked a claim to derail your wagon, and you voted with the scum against the gunsmith. you should not have made it to lylo. it's not fair to yell at Titus when she made the right shot.

the reason im blacklisting ircher

Can we please stop this blacklisting crap and instead help people be better?

[Transcend]

I approve of any mb blacklist fwiw

[Transcend]

Ircher wasn't that bad

[rb]

not ircher

[rb]

tbh my only experiences with ircher are him saying absurd things and then wondering why he's been wagoned

[Transcend]

Ircher deserved the vig shot but not all the hate he's getting rn

[BigYoshiFan]

ircher dude you said this in the dead thread too but it's just wrong. you had openly faked a claim to derail your wagon, and you voted with the scum against the gunsmith. you should not have made it to lylo. it's not fair to yell at Titus when she made the right shot.

the reason im blacklisting ircher

Can we please stop this blacklisting crap and instead help people be better?

+1

[Transcend]

Suddenly, a Yoshi

[rb]

i also like to help people be better

but some people insist they're already better

[mhsmith0]

tbh my only experiences with ircher are him saying absurd things and then wondering why he's been wagoned

That's his town signal tho

[Transcend]

Fwiw if i gave a shitty case on tb i wouldn't have been salty, but i knew i would've had to try extra hard to convince math so i spent nearly 2 hours making a case and staying up extra late to be there when mb came back and then they just hammered

[Ircher]

@Eddie

1) To LyLo? Probably not. Getting vigged? I'm pretty certain there was at least one better vig target than me. (Aronis....)
2) I fakeclaimed on a wagon that was likely to get lolhammered for literally no reason. It worked.... til I withdrew my claim. I didn't execute it perfectly, but at the same time, it wasn't game-throwing and it did town more good than harm.
3) If I can fakeclaim FN, why can't scum easily fakeclaim gunsmith? From my PoV, you were town, Fart was prob. scum, and Fart's choice of investigating you of all people made zero sense to me.
4) Titus's vig was based on a gambit: she voted Fart in an attempt to get scum to follow. Like my FN gambit, that gambit was arguably not a good gambit.

Maybe I'm being too critical -- it was an okay shot, and I am certainly biased -- but it definitely wasn't a great shot, and I would argue that it wasn't necessarily a good shot either -- mediocre at best. The shot certainly had justification -- just not substandial enough justification at the time compared to the other choices imo. (And again, my PoV is biased.)

@Rb
Your reasons for blacklisting me seem rude and poorly justified imo. So what -- I did questionable things -- but everyone did too. And, even when I do silly stuff, there is a reason behind it. Fakeclaiming FN was not really out of character for me even if I haven't really fakeclaimed before (?) -- taking risks can and should be a part of mafia. I'm not necessarily good at mafia, but I'm not necessarily horrible at it either. A huge problem for me this game -- I admit -- was finding the motivation to focus more energy into this game. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses; I don't think you understand me very well and don't understand what my strengths are.

[rb]

tbh my only experiences with ircher are him saying absurd things and then wondering why he's been wagoned

That's his town signal tho

seen him do the same thing as scum

[mhsmith0]

tbh my only experiences with ircher are him saying absurd things and then wondering why he's been wagoned

That's his town signal tho

Like, Ircher being wagoned for doing Ircher things is now part of my standard IC post since it's a great example of my catching RachMarie for being opportunistic as fuck about it

[Ircher]

tbh my only experiences with ircher are him saying absurd things and then wondering why he's been wagoned

That's his town signal tho

seen him do the same thing as scum

That's not necessarily true.

As town, I tend to be more engaged and will say whatever with little regard to what trouble it gets me in.
As scum, I do a lot more watching and observing.

I still gambit some as scum, but I think thrice generally before doing so.

[rb]

fake-claiming as town is stupid 99% of the time and if you have to ask when it's acceptable then you should just not do it

im fine with it being seen as rude and poorly justified.

[Ircher]

And honestly, I hate scum because the restrictions it places on one's ability to speak freely.

Pedit: If the fakeclaim is the primary reason that you are blacklisting me for....

[rb]

tbh my only experiences with ircher are him saying absurd things and then wondering why he's been wagoned

That's his town signal tho

Like, Ircher being wagoned for doing Ircher things is now part of my standard IC post since it's a great example of my catching RachMarie for being opportunistic as fuck about it

i have no interest in playing the game like, "oh that's just X person being X person!"

- and the reason i was also annoyed as fuck at transcend as well for crumbing traitor. lost a lot of respeck

[rb]

and yeah im aware that some people play like that and its all fine and cool, but i prefer to not play with those people.

its a personal preference, and i think there's many people who don't care or who are fine with it, and that's fine. i've never actually bothered enforcing a blacklisted person btw, i just avoid certain player-lists with them

[MathBlade]

Fwiw if i gave a shitty case on tb i wouldn't have been salty, but i knew i would've had to try extra hard to convince math so i spent nearly 2 hours making a case and staying up extra late to be there when mb came back and then they just hammered

I stayed up til 2 am to hear it dude.

[MathBlade]

I eventually read you right in the Open. I didn't read you here correctly. I get it.

Was I salty over you giving the Open to Titus and Riley? Yes.

At the same time I don't go "OMG Blacklist Transcend"

"He claimed traitor blacklist"

I won't do that to you. I don't blacklist anyone doing things I feel are bad.