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Post Post #3200 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:43 am

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In post 3196, Kelvin Smith wrote:I don't know why, but this fucking awful loss kind of makes me want to play Mafia again. Don't know why though. Like, I genuinely believe the game is a 100% pointless, time-consuming coin flip, but I still want to play for some reason.
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Post Post #3201 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:44 am

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Post Post #3202 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:44 am

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because you were scumreading ircher
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Post Post #3203 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:44 am

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In post 3197, RayFrost wrote:I'm going to go back to not playing mafia for different but similar reasons to the last time I quit.
I don't know why you quit last time, but this is an extremely wise decision.
In post 3198, MarioManiac4 wrote:
mafia is a terrible game and the only way people still play it is because it draws you back in, hungry to either fix what happened last game, or continue your great record from last game
That's not an inaccurate assessment, but I feel like there is more to it than that for me right now. It's like I'm trying to figure out a way to make the game fun for me.
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Post Post #3204 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:46 am

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In post 3203, Kelvin Smith wrote:
In post 3197, RayFrost wrote:I'm going to go back to not playing mafia for different but similar reasons to the last time I quit.
I don't know why you quit last time, but this is an extremely wise decision.
In post 3198, MarioManiac4 wrote:
mafia is a terrible game and the only way people still play it is because it draws you back in, hungry to either fix what happened last game, or continue your great record from last game
That's not an inaccurate assessment, but I feel like there is more to it than that for me right now. It's like I'm trying to figure out a way to make the game fun for me.
Well what made it fun before?
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Post Post #3205 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:46 am

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mod who reviewed the game
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Post Post #3206 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:48 am

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I just want to know the mod error and the decision(s) made to fix it
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Post Post #3207 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:48 am

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Than again, I also tend to be drawn to games I hate because I feel like I have the potential to enjoy them for short periods. Games like Pokemon, Smash Bros., and Minecraft are perfect examples. I keep playing them every few years, even though I don't really enjoy them.
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Post Post #3208 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:48 am

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In post 3196, Kelvin Smith wrote:I don't know why, but this fucking awful loss kind of makes me want to play Mafia again. Don't know why though. Like, I genuinely believe the game is a 100% pointless, time-consuming coin flip, but I still want to play for some reason.
You're addicted.
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Post Post #3209 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:49 am

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In post 3206, RayFrost wrote:I just want to know the mod error and the decision(s) made to fix it
You were roleblocked N1 by fitz, but given a result, so it was decided that you would not receive a result N3 (after they realized the error) to balance that.
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Post Post #3210 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:50 am

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In post 3204, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3203, Kelvin Smith wrote:
In post 3197, RayFrost wrote:I'm going to go back to not playing mafia for different but similar reasons to the last time I quit.
I don't know why you quit last time, but this is an extremely wise decision.
In post 3198, MarioManiac4 wrote:
mafia is a terrible game and the only way people still play it is because it draws you back in, hungry to either fix what happened last game, or continue your great record from last game
That's not an inaccurate assessment, but I feel like there is more to it than that for me right now. It's like I'm trying to figure out a way to make the game fun for me.
Well what made it fun before?
Me being an asshole made it fun in the past. Now, I don't think anything makes it fun. I like some of the players, but hate a lot of the attitudes, even in players I like.
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Post Post #3211 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:50 am

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So I was lied to in order to compensate for mod error.

Like I thought.
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Post Post #3212 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:51 am

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@Mods did you contact Nexus about this decision?
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Post Post #3213 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:52 am

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In post 3211, RayFrost wrote:So I was lied to in order to compensate for mod error.

Like I thought.
Not technically lied to. The action of roleblocking you was just delayed to a later Night.
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Post Post #3214 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:53 am

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It's a lie.

It is literally the definition of a lie.

I was told something that was not true.

I was also "roleblocked" after the roleblocker was dead.

Which created a whole fucking shitload of problems in the game leading to priscila's lynch for basically no reason.

Which completely shifted the gamestate.
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Post Post #3215 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:54 am

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It opened me up for heavy scrutiny for no reason, which destroyed my ability to have as much influence over the game as I could have

Not to mention the heavy amounts of demotivation that come from nonsense

Mind you, there's not much to be done to fix a mod error, but I am heavily against the choice that was made.
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Post Post #3216 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:56 am

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In post 3214, RayFrost wrote:It's a lie.

It is literally the definition of a lie.

I was told something that was not true.

I was also "roleblocked" after the roleblocker was dead.

Which created a whole fucking shitload of problems in the game leading to priscila's lynch for basically no reason.

Which completely shifted the gamestate.
Welcome to the dead thread discussion but still you and the rest of town still played bad so it wasn't the direct cause of the loss
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Post Post #3217 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:58 am

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I'm not saying it was the only cause but it was definitely a contributing factor based off of how much information was corrupted off of one lie told by someone who is
supposed to be infallible and tell no lies
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Post Post #3218 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:00 am

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What i'd do is say the night's result may have been incorrect. It sufficiently WIFOMs the result enough to make it a no result. Now if it was a inno when it should have been a guilty I'd just give the new result.
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Post Post #3219 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:02 am

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The SetupMafia Goon X2
Mafia 2-Shot Roleblocker

Town Miller Doublevoter
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Town 3-Shot Gunsmith
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Mod error: The mafia roleblocked the gunsmith night 1 but I gave the gunsmith his result anyway. To compensate for this error, he received no result on night 3. After discussing this with Nexus, it was decided that I should not elaborate on the mod error or tell Ray why he did not get a result until after the game. I apologize for this error and whatever effects it may have had on the game.

Town dropped the ball big time when believing Ircher's claim. As a normal game mod, I would never have approved any town protective role along with a 3-shot gunsmith and odd-night cop. A jailkeeper would have made this setup far too townsided.
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Post Post #3220 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:03 am

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In post 3216, TwoFace wrote:
In post 3214, RayFrost wrote:It's a lie.

It is literally the definition of a lie.

I was told something that was not true.

I was also "roleblocked" after the roleblocker was dead.

Which created a whole fucking shitload of problems in the game leading to priscila's lynch for basically no reason.

Which completely shifted the gamestate.
Welcome to the dead thread discussion but still you and the rest of town still played bad so it wasn't the direct cause of the loss
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Post Post #3221 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:05 am

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My belief in Ircher's claim was tied to my feeling that Ircher's play was towny.

I wouldn't inherently trust a claim that was unproven by someone I didn't think was towny.
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Post Post #3222 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:08 am

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Hey, does anybody want to start up a hydra? I'm trying to think of ways to play without full investment.
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Post Post #3223 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:08 am

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I would be okay with suffering with you.
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Post Post #3224 (ISO) » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:09 am

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I mean, if there had been no mod error at all, would town have still won?
Ray wouldn't received a N1 innocent (PP or MM4, can't remember), but would he have chosen those two to investigate after N1 anyways?
I don't think the error had any effect on how believable Ircher's claim was either.
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