Mini Normal 1917: :X Mafia (Game over!)

[Backhand]

MCM, how long do you want to give ccc to speak up?

[MuttonChopMagic]

until he posts
no rush, long deadline :toast:

[Vedith]

Backhand scum

[Backhand]

Nope. Keep patting your collective backs, though.

[Vedith]

And post game, don't accuse Implosion of telling me who Scum were... it didn't happen.

[Cheetory6]

Nope. Keep patting your collective backs, though.

Who is scum?

[Backhand]

CCC - Grendel - NTRP - Giga

Reconsidering Grendel v. CCC, idk. I've been coming from a place of not really trusting NTRP for a little while but I suppose they can't both be scum so CCC would have had to no-kill.

I probably need to more seriously reevaluate, I admittedly spent the Night not thinking through the rolecop and thinking Paul was dead to rights.

[Cheetory6]

Why is Paul on the table and not Vedith?
Give me a walk-through of your interactions/thoughts about Hiraki/Neroslot this game.

[Backhand]

Oh, he should still be on the table, but I'd have him least likely. I don't think Hiraki also fakeclaims backup after seeing NotMafia doing it. Plus the immediately coming in and killing him.

[NotTheRealPaul]

Why is Paul on the table and not Vedith?
Give me a walk-through of your interactions/thoughts about Hiraki/Neroslot this game.

in what world am i scum here?

its pretty obvious hiraki got backup motion detector via rolecop ability

[Backhand]

If you were scum than you would have set up the drama, obviously. Maybe scum motion detector, maybe the whole thing is made up. But I have you third out of five, I'm not calling it likely.

[Cheetory6]

Give me a walk-through of your interactions/thoughts about Hiraki/Neroslot this game.

Pls and ty.

[Backhand]

Alright, this is going to be quick and dirty because I'm in a training class today instead of just wasting time at my desk like usual.

Accountant was one of my first slight scum reads, he seemed to be going out of his way to discredit people--seems like in retrospect that might just be his personality. When nero came into the game, he also slightly rubbed me the wrong way but I was busy on my NotMafia hill. I was definitely willing to kill him Day 1, but that was as much about townreading kraska as scumreading him.

Barely remember hiraki from Day 1--he kind of did a weird "I see what you're doing backhand but I can't TR you for it." I assume he was talking about my kind of early-game questioning style?

Day 2: Pretty quickly had myself narrowed down to NotMafia (Vedith)/Nero/Waffles. Was fairly certain there was scum in one of Nero and Waffles but not sure who. Hiraki went nuts defending nero, but I still had him as fairly null (to leaning scum because everyone who wasn't confirmed had to be leaning scum.)

Day 3: Started off thinking vedith was more likely than grendel who was more likely hiraki, eventually came around on grendel though. I know once you are repeatedly yelled at about being scumbuddies anything you do is WIFOM, but seriously I voted hiraki when grendel was at L-2.

Anything else specifically you want to ask about? I'll try to not get yelled at by my trainer.

[CCC]

are we in auto win with the extra ml?

Yes. Scum win is impossible at this point. NTRP and MCM can both verify a new innocent tomorrow. Scum can't kill both of them tonight even if he wants to.

[CCC]

So, yeah. As long as we don't kill a conftown, and as long as NTRP/MCM/the Rolestopper don't forget to submit actions, and as long as the last scum isn't a PR, our victory is assured. Unless NTRP

is

the last scum, and he kills MCM... but the rolestopper will be on MCM every night to prevent that, so that's impossible.

Our last scum is one of Backhand/Grendel/Vedith. I'm thinking Backhand/Vedith includes at least one scum (looking back to the NotMafia wagon on day one). We have mislynches to spare, so I'm happy to vote for either of them. Backhand has the more votes currently, so -

VOTE: Backhand

[CCC]

So, should I be speaking about whether or not I got a Loyalty message from MCM last night?

[Vedith]

CCC trying to prepare mis lynches?
:thinkingface:

[Backhand]

So, should I be speaking about whether or not I got a Loyalty message from MCM last night?

Sure, but we kind of already know--unless you're calling Paul a liar?

[MuttonChopMagic]

So, should I be speaking about whether or not I got a Loyalty message from MCM last night?

yes. hard yes or no please.
same from giga and grendel mateys

[MuttonChopMagic]

mod - if a loyal action targets a scum player, and a motion detector targets same scum player, would said loyal action cause motion even though it would fail?

might as well clarify, that's something I'm not sure of. it affects his tale.

[Vedith]

Sure you want everyone who will say no first to say no, otherwise scum will just say no if anyone says yes first.

[MuttonChopMagic]

yea, I might have idled. I do weird things like that. I'm also pretty sure my loyal action wouldn't have gone through on scum ccc if I targeted him, aka no motion. so we need that reply to take.
that's probably bullshit... but for all scum know I targeted you or backhand. or nobody. faking here is not a play I believe scum will make.

if I targeted someone and they confirm it, that's game. there is 0 reason anyone I targeted should not claim

in their next post

.
if scum don't fake a yes then we have a guilty. if they do and guess wrong we have a guilty even if my action was blocked otherwise. so, no, I don't believe scum will fake here and make themselves toast

[MuttonChopMagic]

I've put a LOT of thought into my role because it's not as simple as mod coming me with a players team.
I also don't really believe town can lose this. scum resigning won't happen probably but it'd be boring anyways it seems.

[Vedith]

You didn't understand what I said, it's okay I see your point on it.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

So, should I be speaking about whether or not I got a Loyalty message from MCM last night?

yes. hard yes or no please.
same from giga and grendel mateys

this is a hard no.