MuttonChopMagic wrote:mod - if a loyal action targets a scum player, and a motion detector targets same scum player, would said loyal action cause motion even though it would fail?
If a motion detector and a town player with a loyal action both target a non-town player, the motion detector will not see motion unless something else causes them to see motion.
parshly. I would have been ok with you claiming. still would've probably been game.
I was hoping the scum in that 3 (+vedith and technically paul maybe) would go for the claim
you were a town read for me for a while and I didn't really feel like letting u get mislynched so...
u could be scum, yeah... gambitting... but it is not likely and a concern if we don't manage to hit scum later doe
the reason I'm not worried is that motion detector AND myself get innos now that there's 1 scum left I mean...
and, there /is/ a doc or a rolestopper, because even ignoring the missing kills a loyal friendly neighbour + md setup isn't even close to balanced for green
I mean...we can just go lynch happy at this point. We have four targets and I can potentially inno one of em every night and thats assuming there is a nk.
Backhand still shouldn't be confirmed town because if he's scum and no one else claimed it, of course he's going to assume it was him.
We'll see though as Grendel isn't scum, Gigga isn't scum.
So lynch CCC
Motion me
If kill it clears me
If no kill, lynch me
Motion Backhand
If no kill
Lynch Backhand
Backhand still shouldn't be confirmed town because if he's scum and no one else claimed it, of course he's going to assume it was him.
We'll see though as Grendel isn't scum, Gigga isn't scum.
So lynch CCC
Motion me
If kill it clears me
If no kill, lynch me
Motion Backhand
If no kill
Lynch Backhand
GG
Except mutton confirmed that he did target me? Like I know you yelled I was scum a lot and it was inexplicably compelling... But I'm not, and it would be real dumb to lynch me before Grendel or Giga or Paul. (And on Paul, a reminder: that Hiraki was a rolecop does not confirm Paul as town)
VOTE: ccc
I think scum CCC is smart enough to realize that his only chance is to try and get to be confirmed town and no-kill
I looked back at Raya(Hiraki)+DeathRowCat's(Gigabyte) brief early game interactions b/c I remembered Raya subbing out directly after DeathCat poked them. Pointing to a T/S interaction.
In truth Raya's sub out was delayed, and probably unrelated to DeathRow, so I guess that isn't great evidence.
I should go back and resort Giga/CCC/Vedith but ugh... I was so sure that Backhand lynch was gg I'll be back later.
I still don't think Paul should technically be cleared, so we need one more no-kill or one more mcm confirm or a motion detector catch or not missing on four lynches on a row to truly truly seal it up... but we're probably good. CCC's absence isn't a great sign and remember how long he's been pushing "one of Vedith or Backhand must be scum?"
nobody should be hammering this yet. mote to discuss same.
Paul, sit on grendel. if scum wants to kill they're forced to kill you because another inno is game.
of course, I simultaneously get an inno. so scum can shoot you and I can inno someone. *wew*
this is just an idea, so please give feedback but I think it's optimal for now
at day start do not claim if i target you. throw unrelated stuff around.
when I post, the thread should be completely quiet for 12 hours
the only time you post in said time is to claim you received my fn shot. claim immediately when you were my post, don't delay / cower
what does this do? basically, make it REALLY HARD for scum to fake inno themselves with a fake fn claim
I don't think losing 12 hours of discussion at max is a big loss with long days either but lmk thoughts mates
