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[nancy]

Formerfish is at L-2!

Thirty-third Votecount

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(Fifth Votecount D3

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Formerfish - 3 (iDanyboy, massive, GreyICE)

massive - 2 (ReplacedIn, Formerfish)

Not Voting - 4 (EeveeLution Army, aronagrundy, Fro99er, Mulch)

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

Formerfish is at L-2!

Day 3's deadline is Monday, July 31st, @ 09:00 PM PDT: (expired on 2017-08-01 00:01:10).

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[aronagrundy]

hm...for the record, I'm still hesitant to treat grey as confirmed town.

Like. A weak doctor, loyal cop, and macho neapolitan is a ton of investigative power. Yeah the results leave a lot of room for roleblocking WIFOM, but it's still a lot. If there's a scum rb, why didn't they target grey last night? It just boggles my mind.

That said, if formerfish flips red, grey is definitely town. In no world does scum!grey decide to bus their partner like that lol

[aronagrundy]

Like let's say grey is scum...and there's a roleblocker. Grey claims to draw the other investigative role out, with grey's role leaving room for a poor result.

Thing is, that's a wild play and even though grey is experienced enough to pull it off, there's no way he could explain why he doesn't die at night eventually. And it's just less likely than--if formerfish flips green--grey simply being roleblocked.

This is mostly paranoia. Grey is most likely town.

[aronagrundy]

VOTE: formerfish

Heads i target grey
Tails i target replacedin

[EeveeLution Army]

Sorry lemme catch up

[aronagrundy]

wait mulch why the hell did you soft claim pr day 2

[ReplacedIn]

Arona, there's never a world Greys scum here imo. Also there's no real gain from protecting me tonight, it doesn't create a clearance and isn't worth the 50% chance of mafia just shooting Grey. I'd rather you just always be on GreyICE here, think doing so is the optimal play since there's no chance for false clearances (ie. You stating you're targeting Massive, mafia shooting GreyICE and roleblocking you) and making sure he's alive tomorrow is important.

[EeveeLution Army]

Literally i try to catch up and basically every one of frogs post has a cuss word in it. Chill dude. I can't take much more cussing in this game.

[GreyICE]

VOTE: formerfish

Heads i target grey
Tails i target replacedin

He claimed Aesctic, that means your action would fail.

[ReplacedIn]

Fwiw, I think if we're lynching FF and he flips mafia just having Arona on GI and GI on Eeve leads towards that auto-win clearance that we'd need. In fact I think Arona should be on GI regardless of FF's flip. If he flips town I don't really have a recommendation inside Eeve/Frogger for GI to target but should be one of the two.

Still think the most likely person to flip mafia in the game is Massive atm though. Would bet a lot on him flipping scum here.

[aronagrundy]

my bad, thought it only applied to investigative roles

Ummm tails I target eevee

[aronagrundy]

Hm oh actually that makes sense. Should've thought more about night action resolution.

[aronagrundy]

And yeah I really doubt Grey is scum. I was just thinking it through

[ReplacedIn]

Went into this already, there's risk of a false-clearance via a RB'er if you target anyone that's Non-GI, we're in a position where we only need 1 clearance to win the game, making sure that GreyICE is alive given he can't get false-clearances is the optimal strategy.

@GI, lets play a fun little game, below are the 6 possible scum teams, rank them from 'most' to 'least' likely whoever has the exact scum team the highest up wins.

1) Massive-Eeve
2) FF-Massive
3) Frogger-Massive
4) FF-Frogger
5) Frogger-Eeve
6) FF-Eeve

(Mine are already ranked there)

[EeveeLution Army]

What happens if ff flips scum replacedin

[EeveeLution Army]

That leaves me/massive/frogger as your reads?

[ReplacedIn]

If FF flips scum we have Arona on GI and GI targeting you, think in that world he'll get a clearance on you and it'll be game won (Enough clears to kill every unclear including myself) by going Massive->Frogger or Frogger->Massive with a lynch to spare, personally think it ends upon Massives lynch there.

[EeveeLution Army]

And if ff flips town?

[Fro99er]

Going to bed. Be happy. This is my retirement game.

I'm done with this site for so many reasons.

Mulch you're fantastic. I've enjoyed every game I've played with you.

[ReplacedIn]

FF flipping town is where it gets messier in that Arona needs to be on GI and GI needs to make a decision between targeting either yourself or Frogger but the decision will ultimately probably be pointless in that if FF is flipping town that's confirmation that scum have some form of roleblocker (Most likely an odd-night one in that world) meaning we probably end up with a situation where either Arona is roleblocked and GI shot, or GI roleblocked and Arona shot with no actual information gleaned tomorrow. Lynching through yourself, Frogger and Massive wins the game there but it'll be a lot more drawn out and far less locked in.

Personally think lynching Massive over FF is the play today, we'll hit scum a lot higher % of the time there.

[Fro99er]

Arona is awesome too

[Fro99er]

I haven't seen ornplayed with anyone else soni can't comment on the rest of you

[GreyICE]

That leaves me/massive/frogger as your reads?

I mean, and? I've cleared Dany, Arona has cleared me and Mulch, that literally leaves only you/massive/frogger or start to speculate on these PRs.

Lets try, hmmm. From my perspective:

FF/Fro99er
FF/ReplacedIn
FF/Eevee
FF/Massive
FF/Arona

Pretty much in that order. Although I'd think there's a gap between 1 and the rest.

Commuter is a role that fucks up both my role (making him appear scum to me) and Uzi's role (making him appear scum to him). It's the double miller. 2-shot renders that incredibly weird, but whatever this setup.

Now could there be two millers? I mean this setup. But I'm starting to really dislike what you're doing here in a big way. Call me paranoid, yah, you're right.

[ReplacedIn]

GreyICE, Mulch claimed VT, she said the Commuter claim was a joke. At least order the 6 that I've put forward for us to compare post-game.

Do find it pretty hillarious that I think you've worked out who I am and are somehow still paranoid of me given I'm pretty woeful as scum and have been pretty transparently obvious town but meh, I don't think it'll cause any real harm here given the position we're in.

[mastina]

We're just about in need of another VC.