Mini Normal 1929 - Game Over

[WhyMafia]

ugh

[Mulch]

you were basically a goon then xD

Yes, I made fun of ircher for it like 50 times lol

[Mulch]

Fun fact I randomly came across ircher actually in his last review tried getting an encryptor with 2 scum but mods denied it.

I guess he thought he would try again?

[WhyMafia]

lmao

[WhyMafia]

I'm still hoping against hope that you're town ;-;

[Mulch]

I wouldent do that to you

[Ircher]

Day 5 VC #2 (HAMMER)

WhyMafia

(0) -

Mulch

(0) -

MarioManiac4

(2) (HAMMER @ 1853) -

WhyMafia

(1848),

Mulch

(1853*)

No Lynch (0) -

Not Voting (1) -

MarioManiac4

Lynch Threshold

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Deadline

Day 5 will end by August 23, 2017 6:10 PM EDT or in (expired on 2017-08-23 18:10:00).

Moderator Notes

Have fun!
I have completely colorized the VC. Use the info as you see fit (for future games).

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 5

WhyMafia

:

MarioManiac4

(1848)

Mulch

:

MarioManiac4

(

1853*

)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Day 4

Awesomeusername

:

LlamaFluff

(1787)

WhyMafia

:

LlamaFluff

(1636) -->

MarioManiac4

(1723) -->

LlamaFluff

(

1815*

)

Mulch

:

Awesomeusername

(1609) --> (Null) (1610) -->

LlamaFluff

(1646) --> (Null) (1658) -->

LlamaFluff

(1689)

MarioManiac4

:

WhyMafia

(1724)

LlamaFluff

:

WhyMafia

(1633) --> (Null) (1731)

Day 3

WhyMafia

:

Alban

(1553)

Mulch

:

Scorpious

(1468) -->

Alban

(1557) --> (Null) (1564) -->

Alban

(1573) --> (Null) (1582) -->

Alban

(

1595*

)

Scorpious

:

WhyMafia

(1556) -->

Alban

(1579)

Alban

:

WhyMafia

(1552) -->

Alban

(1592)

MarioManiac4

:

Scorpious

(1465) --> (Null) (1551)

Day 2

Awesomeusername

:

WhyMafia

(1427) --> (Null) (1435) --> No Lynch (1436)

WhyMafia

:

Alban

(867) -->

Awesomeusername

(1191) -->

Alban

(1223) -->

Scorpious

(1323) --> No Lynch (

1437*

)

Steel

:

LlamaFluff

(955) -->

Scorpious

(1325) --> (Null) (1410) -->

Alban

(1426)

Mulch

:

Alban

(918) -->

Scorpious

(945) -->

Alban

(957) -->

Awesomeusername

(972) -->

Alban

(1006) -->

LlamaFluff

(1090) ==>

LlamaFluff

(1098) -->

Alban

(1113) -->

LlamaFluff

(1154) -->

Alban

(1156) -->

Scorpious

(1200) -->

LlamaFluff

(1267) -->

Scorpious

(1268) --> (Null) (1389) --> No Lynch (1432)

Scorpious

:

Alban

(1229) --> (Null) (1313) -->

WhyMafia

(1340) --> No Lynch (1434)

Alban

:

WhyMafia

(869)

MarioManiac4

:

Awesomeusername

(1006) -->

Scorpious

(1244)

LlamaFluff

:

Mulch

(961) --> No Lynch (1431)

Day 1

Awesomeusername

:

Scorpious

(73) -->

I am Innocent

(205) --> (Null) (387) -->

Vedith

(496) --> (Null) (565) -->

LlamaFluff

(586) --> (Null) (597)

Vedith

:

Carcalilly

(88) -->

Tchill13

(135) -->

Steel

(193) -->

WhyMafia

(455) -->

Scorpious

(459) -->

Carcalilly

(580) -->

Vedith

(755)*

Lil Uzi Vert

(replaced by

WhyMafia

)

:

MarioManiac4

(192) -->

Steel

(256)

WhyMafia

(replaced Lil Uzi Vert)

:

Alban

(460) -->

Carcalilly

(571) -->

Vedith

(588) -->

Carcalilly

(591) -->

Vedith

(727)

Steel

: No Lynch (127) ==> No Lynch (182) --> Lil Uzi Vert (254) --> (Null) (272) -->

Carcalilly

(279) -->

Scorpious

(419) -->

Vedith

(442) --> (Null) (469) -->

Vedith

(545) -->

LlamaFluff

(537) -->

Carcalilly

(570)

Io

:

Steel

(67) -->

Io

(132) --> (Null) (164) -->

I am Innocent

(204) -->

MarioManiac4

(365) --> (Null) (428) -->

Vedith

(618) --> (Null) (724)

Scorpious

: Lil Uzi Vert (99) --> (Null) (482) -->

Vedith

(587)

Alban

:

Vedith

(104)

Tchill13

:

Carcalilly

(129) --> (Null) (147) -->

Vedith

(231) -->

Scorpious

(437) --> (Null) (475) -->

Carcalilly

(592)

Carcalilly

:

MarioManiac4

(78) -->

Vedith

(90) --> Lil Uzi Vert (102) ==> Lil Uzi Vert (120) -->

Io

(133) -->

Tchill13

(138) -->

MarioManiac4

(170) -->

Vedith

(298) -->

MarioManiac4

(377) -->

Alban

(602) -->

Vedith

(695)

MarioManiac4

:

Carcalilly

(66) --> (Null) (157) -->

Tchill13

(174) -->

Scorpious

(176) -->

Steel

(189) --> (Null) (289) -->

MarioManiac4

(340) -->

Vedith

(345) -->

Scorpious

(405)

I am Innocent

(

replaced by

LlamaFluff

):

Carcalilly

(69)

LlamaFluff

(

replaced

I am Innocent

):

Vedith

(532)

Dawn

Awesomeusername

:

MarioManiac4

(7)

Vedith

:

Tchill13

(13) -->

Scorpious

(24)

Tchill13

:

MarioManiac4

(49)

Carcalilly

:

Vedith

(15) -->

MarioManiac4

(19) -->

Scorpious

(30) -->

MarioManiac4

(58)

MarioManiac4

:

Vedith

(4) -->

Carcalilly

(50)

[Ircher]

Endgame!

MarioManiac4,

Vanilla Townie

, was lynched day 5!

WhyMafia,

Vanilla Townie

, was endgamed day 5!

Mulch,

Mafia Encryptor

, survived and won!

Congratulations mafia! Mulch and Carcalilly have won this game!
Edit: Scorpious also wins! Sorry about that!

Thanks for playing!

[Ircher]

Links:

1. Game Thread
2. Mod PT
3. Mafia PT
4. Dead PT
5. Review Thread

[Ircher]

A few final things:

First of all, thanks again for playing. The game sure was interesting -- I half-expected town to win after that vigilante shot (and I kept thinking -- why is Mulch not being lynched or at least under heavy scrutiny -- for nearly the entire game.)

Second of all, concerning private topics: mafia have (expired on 2017-08-19 20:15:11) to request any redactions before I release their thread. The dead thread will be released when I get an opportunity to do so. The mod thread will probably be released on Sunday as I still have one more thing to do there before releasing it.

Last of all, I have a few survey questions; please be kind and pm me your answers (alongside the questions -- use the pm button on this post (if you respond inline, please use bold or a different color)) (see the spoiler below).

Spoiler: Player Survey

1a.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate the overall performance of the moderator in fulfilling his or her duties? (i.e.: posting votecounts, handling flips, handling questions, handling problems in the thread, et cetera.)

1b.

What issues, if any, do you have with the moderation of this game?

1c.

What suggestions would you make, if any, to the moderator to improve the overall moderation of future games?

1d.

Are there any other comments you would like to make concerning the moderation of the game?

2a.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate the setup in terms of balance and swing? Balance is defined as all all factions having an equal chance of winning.

2b.

Do you think the setup is balanced? (Yes or no.)

2c.

Do you think the setup is excessively swingy? (Yes or no.)

2d.

What major issues, if any, do you have with the setup's balance? (Explain why.)

2e.

What other issues, if any, do you have with the setup's balance? (Explain why.)

2f.

What changes would you suggest making, if any, to the moderator if he or she ran this setup again? (Explain why.)

2g.

Are there any other comments you would like to make concerning the setup's balance and swing factor?

3a.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how fun was the game? (This includes everything from the player list to moderation quality and et cetera.)

3b.

What issues, if any, did you have with the player list? (Explain why.)

3c.

Are there any other comments you would like to make about the game as a whole?

[Gamma Emerald]

I wouldent do that to you

You liar.

[LlamaFluff]

I need to learn how to talk to the low content high volume newer generation better. Was right but standard cases apparently is not the way to get a point across anymore.

Sorta surprised this setup passed given how unbearably swingy it is. Technically balanced but such a range of outcomes would make me avoid playing it.

[WhyMafia]

I'm sorry for not trusting you Llama
I thought it was TvT

[Ircher]

I need to learn how to talk to the low content high volume newer generation better. Was right but standard cases apparently is not the way to get a point across anymore.

Sorta surprised this setup passed given how unbearably swingy it is. Technically balanced but such a range of outcomes would make me avoid playing it.

Yeah, I was kinda worried the setup wasn't going to pass when I entered review. I was a bit surprised by how easily this setup was passed.
Originally, the Traitor had the roleblock on N2; the only change that occurred from the original to this one was shifting the roleblock to N3.

Also, I think you played pretty well, but like you said, it didn't seem you were very charismatic to the other players.

[LlamaFluff]

Its just this type of player. If its other more "old school" player I am far more effective. Its almost like a generational thing. Mentalities between "say anything that comes to your mind that second" and "present it nicely" doesn't match well. At this point in the site meta though the "just say what you are thinking at any point" is the predominant playstyle. Its why I don't play that much anymore, its not as much fun because of the players. Its like if you play a sport you like but are at a position you are not a big fan of. Its still enjoyable but not as fun.

[Mulch]

Lol even so is it really the old school way to decide I'm scum and then literally find everything scummy about me and present it and ignore all towny?

[Ircher]

@Mulch and everyone: scum have a mix of town and scummy posts.

It is perfectly fair to ignore all your town posts if you have multiple scummy posts.

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean WM's case on MM4 WAS sooooooo shitty

[WhyMafia]

I was never that conf!biased in my time playing mafia :/

[LlamaFluff]

Lol even so is it really the old school way to decide I'm scum and then literally find everything scummy about me and present it and ignore all towny?

You had no reliable town tells, coming from someone who prefers to operate on town tells. You had multiple reliable scum tells. A few weak town tells + multiple strong scum tells = scum read.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also Mulch, from someone who hunts by searching for bad LAMIST you sure had a lot yourself.

[Mulch]

Oh well I guess it's the fifth straight normal games scum win that I was obvious scum.

Gotta get better


No joke I've been called obvious scum in literally all my wins

[Mulch]

Llama I'm talking about confirmation bias. Is this an old school thing

[Ircher]

Also, I'd appreciate if certain users would check their inboxes and kindly read any unread messages from me...

[alban]

Links:

1. Game Thread
2. Mod PT
3. Mafia PT
4. Dead PT
5. Review Thread

Ircher, unable to open mod pt and review thread.