Mini Normal 1938 [Game Over]

[Robbnva]

You. I thought you were BP traitor as that's pretty common.

Again. I don't think you are right. Bp traitor isn't very common

[Robbnva]

In fact this is the first bp traitor from 1400 to now in a mini normal

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Again. I don't think you are right. Bp traitor isn't very common

From the hundreds of games I've seen here, I've seen more BP traitors than not.
Just because a BP traitor isn't in every game, I'm talking about when there is a traitor, they are more likely BP.

[Robbnva]

Those hundreds of games weren't mini normals obviously. What happens outside of normals is completely different

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I've seen them in normals.
If you can't get an idea of what is more likely scum/town as a whole instead of just 1 type of game though, then you won't be able to discuss setup correctly.
That's why I would have been right on the BP traitor because I play every type of game and have a better understanding of setup spec.

Reason your role was 100% NAI and you had to be judged on your play alone.

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Thanks for modding Dany.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thanks for modding Dani, really good job throughout the game.

[Robbnva]

I've seen them in normals.
If you can't get an idea of what is more likely scum/town as a whole instead of just 1 type of game though, then you won't be able to discuss setup correctly.
That's why I would have been right on the BP traitor because I play every type of game and have a better understanding of setup spec.

Reason your role was 100% NAI and you had to be judged on your play alone.

But normals have to follow certain guidelines. If you would have tried to argue bulletproof traitor (had I actually known he was a traitor) I would have come back with it's a role never seen before in a mini normal which means it's very unlikely.

Just like when you tried to say scum neighborizer is about even. I was able to discredit you by proving in normals it isn't very common. It seems to be more common now since I've now seen 2 since my return, but overall it isn't.

You can't use what you see in non normal games and think they apply to normal games. If I were town you'd never be able to convince me that a bp traitor was a possibility.

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But normals have to follow certain guidelines. If you would have tried to argue bulletproof traitor (had I actually known he was a traitor) I would have come back with it's a role never seen before in a mini normal which means it's very unlikely.

Just like when you tried to say scum neighborizer is about even. I was able to discredit you by proving in normals it isn't very common. It seems to be more common now since I've now seen 2 since my return, but overall it isn't.

You can't use what you see in non normal games and think they apply to normal games. If I were town you'd never be able to convince me that a bp traitor was a possibility.

I wouldn't have listened to you if you said it isn't a role in normal. And after the flip it would have only harmed you, so a lot of ifs and buts. I know what can be in normal and I know that BP traitor is more likely than BP town with this setup.
Traitor was 100% with the Love role too.

You didn't discredit me at all with the neighbour argument. My point was that it was NAI. And that was a fact which I stood by. Again, this favours me to knowing setup spec better than you. If I said you were scum for it (I never once did) then yes, your argument would have stood.

If you can't be convinced that roles are most likely, then you won't grow as a player imo. If you're saying as town you would refuse to see BP traitor, then you won't win games as town in normal, let alone outside of normal. Then again, I suspect that as town you would think that BBT was SK, not a vig... BBT was never going to be SK and that should have been a dropped conversation when I said so yesterday.

[Nexus]

review thread is now open btw

[Virtuoso]

Thanks @Nexus

I really enjoyed the setup even though I was killed N1

[Hopkirk]

nobody questioned Hopkirk's claim, everyone believed he was BP.

I thought he was town BP lol

Who did you think was traitor, GR?

You. I thought you were BP traitor as that's pretty common.

I was asking Robb this, and predicting he thought you were the traitor.

Would you have still thought I was mafia/traitor if I'd claimed VT there?

[Hopkirk]

Though I thought my partners knew the traitor was 1sBP.

[Robbnva]

No the role pm didn't say anything about you being bp. Just like it didn't say anything about my ability being 1 shot or that I wouldn't be able to communicate during the day (which I should have figured by the no day talk but really didn't think about it)

[Nexus]

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