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[Virtuoso]

VC 1.01

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Lynching

humaneatingmonkey

(4): WhyMafia, Thor665, Mulch, BlueBloodedToffee

WhyMafia

(2): humaneatingmonkey, Robbnva

Not Voting

(7): Toranaga, Havo, fykus, MariaR, Chip Butty, Misère, Creative

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2017-09-24 15:12:59)

Mod Notes

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Thor665 is V/LA. Stay safe!

[humaneatingmonkey]

What's so townie with a logic that you think is strange and tinfoily?

[Robbnva]

Whymafia is very likely town

Based on what exactly?

[Robbnva]

I buy that whoever claimed miller is a miller

Why?

[Mulch]

Whymafia is very likely town

Based on what exactly?

Scum don't know if there are millers in the game. If they claim miller they run the risk of being cced by another and instantly losing a member. Plus Whymafia isn't the type of scum player to do that

[humaneatingmonkey]

What's your meta-analysis on him from what games, Mulch? Even if scum don't know if there are millers in the game, this can be a scum gambit that has been premeditated. I don't get a town-angle where you would trust that immediately. So you don't think a lynch of WhyMafia is beneficial?

[Robbnva]

Millers I don't think are used much and I think I've seen enough miller fake claims to not trust them. Plus despite the in incorrect wiki, proper play imo is to not actually claim.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Ah. It's because the team is WhyMafia, Mulch, and someone who's gonna bus WhyMafia upon entrance.

[Toranaga]

What's so townie with a logic that you think is strange and tinfoily?

scum isn't as creative and paranoid

WRT miller claim, I'm yet to see someone hardclaim miller at d1 SOD without being one, and that's the correct approach to the game as miller anyway. risky play for scum and I can see many of you already scum reading that player and thinking lynching him is 'safe' due to that. only a true miller would benefit from hardclaiming early. I also agree with Mulch's reasoning that scum don't know if there's miller in the game, so this has the added risk of being CCed by one.

[Robbnva]

1. Meta is garbage
2. From what I can tell mulch has only seen whymafia one game. So That's not enough to use garbage meta

[Robbnva]

WRT miller claim, I'm yet to see someone hardclaim miller at d1 SOD without being one

Would you like some examples? Cause I certainly have

[Toranaga]

Maybe, but we are not lynching the claimed miller this gameday if I can avoid it.

[Robbnva]

Well hopefully you can't avoid it cause I'm going to make sure he's lynched

[Thor665]

Ah. It's because the team is WhyMafia, Mulch, and someone who's gonna bus WhyMafia upon entrance.

You mean like you did?

[Toranaga]

ehhh these will be two long weeks.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Tornaga's right. This will be two long weeks. I'm not going to lynch him today, but I want to place a stagnating L-2 wagon on him. If he's scum, people will try to protect the slot as much as possible. If he's town, no problem.

Toranaga's not looking at the big picture. If there's a Miller, there's possibly an investigative element to the game. If we can't flip it for that investigative role today, we will never confirm the slot. Scum will always want to keep this guy alive because it throws off that investigative role. Eventually, we'll be in LYLO and we will have this huge obstacle in the way. Better lynch him now that deal with that damage later.

[quote=Thor665]You mean like you did?[/quote]
SURE. GO WITH THAT. THE PERSON WHO PUSHES FOR HIS LYNCH ASAP IS THE PARTNER. lmao

[humaneatingmonkey]

EDIT by post.

Tornaga's right. This will be two long weeks. I'm not going to lynch him today or next week, but I want to place a stagnating L-2 wagon on him until before deadline. If he's scum, people will try to protect the slot as much as possible. If he's town, no problem.

Toranaga's not looking at the big picture. If there's a Miller, there's possibly an investigative element to the game. If we can't flip it for that investigative role today, we will never confirm the slot. Scum will always want to keep this guy alive because it throws off that investigative role. Eventually, we'll be in LYLO and we will have this huge obstacle in the way. Better lynch him now that deal with that damage later.

You mean like you did?

SURE. GO WITH THAT. THE PERSON WHO PUSHES FOR HIS LYNCH ASAP IS THE PARTNER. lmao

[Mulch]

What's your meta-analysis on him from what games, Mulch? Even if scum don't know if there are millers in the game, this can be a scum gambit that has been premeditated. I don't get a town-angle where you would trust that immediately. So you don't think a lynch of WhyMafia is beneficial?

Here are two scum games.

Spoiler:

viewtopic.php?f=83&t=72829
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=72014

I have about 5 more town games. I know WhyMafia very very well, and he's much more cautious as scum and outgoing as town.


This isn't the type of thing WhyMafia does as a scum gambit, it just isn't. And it's a horrible idea to do it as well no matter who it is, let alone for WhyMafia who hates drawing attention to himself as scum. I'm trusting him and in fact I think this could be a very easy push for scum to do.

inb4 he flips scum lol

[humaneatingmonkey]

Ayy that game isn't over???

This will never be the push the scum will go. It's just too beneficial for their purpose to keep him alive. There's more scum motivation to defend him for towncred and pocketing purpose than to lynch him. If you don't agree with that, you're scumclaiming.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Your links didn't make sense and I'm still not convinced of that meta analysis. Present it better.

[Mulch]

What didn't you understand?

[humaneatingmonkey]

1. Those two are just links (one of them are even on-going) with no decisive suggestion that your meta-analysis of him is definite.
2. Can't see a town angle where it's easy it is for you to be convinced of him as someone who doesn't use gambits. Gambits are supposed to be occasional after all.

Finally

3. Meta is garbage anyway.

This Miller is scum or it's a scum-helping role, regardless of alignment. We should lynch it.

[Mulch]

I base an extreme number of my reads on meta, and people who think it's useless are ignorant idiots who like to learn mafia out of textbooks instead of experience.

I know WhyMafia and he's not the type to do this and none of the games are ongoing, and more importantly why the fuck do you think my meta analysis on him isn't genuine? And how the fuck am I supposed to, at this point in the game, express to you that it was supposed to be genuine beides literally explaining that I have about 7 games with him?


And more importantly than ANY of this, miller claims are usually town and in theory are a mafia benefitting role but in practice are a town benefiting role.

I mean, even now I'm having slight paranoia over it that I'm defending a scum but like it's very very unlikely he is scum

[Virtuoso]

Players are reminded that discussions about ongoing games are absolutely forbidden. I took a look at the links and saw no reference to any ongoing games, but this is a friendly reminder.

[Mulch]

It's not an ongoing game lmao