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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:53 am

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In post 98, acidphoenix wrote:VOTE: tchill
also >explanations with your readslist

unexplained readslist = goat
I don't really have any stronger reasoning at the moment, hence why there isn't much. The readslist was mostly me thinking out loud and hoping that it would generate some discussion.

Why did you vote tchill?
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:16 am

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In post 17, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 15, Boonskiies wrote:I’m vanilla this game. Thoughts?
VOTE: boonskiies

This joke is way more likely to come from scum than town in RVS.
In post 20, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 17, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 15, Boonskiies wrote:I’m vanilla this game. Thoughts?
VOTE: boonskiies

This joke is way more likely to come from scum than town in RVS.
Could be a reaction test.
This is where I first bring into question about if what you are saying is legit. You gave no opinion on this.
In post 40, LicketyQuickety wrote:The question, at this point, should be whether Lalendra was truthful in their claim or whether they are Scum. I think this because I think its improbable that Lalendra was doing a reaction test when that was already brought up. Its the fact that her reaction test would be so ineffective that I don't think its likely she takes that course of action. I mean, they already claimed it so there is no sense in hiding it really.

I will say its prolly very unlikely that all of Uzi, EP and Lalendra are all Scum covering for Lalendra. That would group themselves too close together as having the same opinion which I don't think is either an effective strategy as Scum, nor a probable one.
In post 41, Thestatusquo wrote:Can we lynch confirmed scum boonskiies yet?
In post 43, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 40, LicketyQuickety wrote:The question, at this point, should be whether Lalendra was truthful in their claim or whether they are Scum. I think this because I think its improbable that Lalendra was doing a reaction test when that was already brought up. Its the fact that her reaction test would be so ineffective that I don't think its likely she takes that course of action. I mean, they already claimed it so there is no sense in hiding it really.

I will say its prolly very unlikely that all of Uzi, EP and Lalendra are all Scum covering for Lalendra. That would group themselves too close together as having the same opinion which I don't think is either an effective strategy as Scum, nor a probable one.
worth noting if boonskiies flips scum.

why are we wasting several paragraphs pontificating on what is obviously a newbie play while ignoring the fact that boonskiies, who is not a newbie, already did it earlier.
This is where you call into question what I have said and double down on Boon.
In post 84, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 83, Boonskiies wrote:I’m known for claiming like 5 different times as town. I’m THE reaction test player on site. I believe every post matters.

I’m also VLA until Friday, it I’ll likely be posting occasionally within that.
This seems acceptable. What do you think tsq?
This is the second opportunity I gave you to feel out whether you were actually serious about lynching Boon.
In post 85, Thestatusquo wrote:Self meta is nonsense.
Here you triple down on Boon being Scum.
In post 87, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm going to follow tsq on this one. Plus, I hate how Boon said they claim like 5 times in a game.

VOTE: Boon
This is where I get curious about what exactly you are doing so I play devils advocate to see what exactly you are really doing. At the time I was debating saying Boons meta is easily verifiable, but held off on that; don't know why.
In post 88, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm aware I never gave a read on tsq as well. He's making some decent points and is playing aggressive and I like that. That would be my read on him atm.
This is where I give my perspective on what tsq is doing. Notice I didn't say you were giving good points, but decent points. This was intentional.
In post 96, Thestatusquo wrote:Ep, I know. It's almost like I did that on purpose.

I don't like how lq just said that boons response was fine and then jumped into the wagon after a one sentence non-argument from me. Like, at all.

VOTE: LQ
Then you turn your hand and say you were just saying those things to see who follows you. I did follow you, but as I said before, it had more to do with trying to see what you were up to. When I said I didn't like that Boon said he claims different things like 5 times in a game, that was an honest comment because I don't think that is the way Mafia should be played because it ruins your credibility if you do that.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:21 am

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No, I still think boon is scummy.

But I think you jumping on him after what I think was a particularly spurious argument on my part a) fits the description of scum who want to distance from their scum partner and b) fits scum trying to coast off of a particularly loud player without providing insight and reasoning of his own.

You know what all of those posts have in common? They don't contain at any point YOU providing reasoning for why YOU think hes scum. In fact, the only post besides your vote where you mention him at all is the one where you say that his defense is reasonable. Which then turns into a vote? What?
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:22 am

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VOTE: Lalendra

This needs rope.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:26 am

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In post 102, Thestatusquo wrote:No, I still think boon is scummy.

But I think you jumping on him after what I think was a particularly spurious argument on my part a) fits the description of scum who want to distance from their scum partner and b) fits scum trying to coast off of a particularly loud player without providing insight and reasoning of his own.

You know what all of those posts have in common? They don't contain at any point YOU providing reasoning for why YOU think hes scum. In fact, the only post besides your vote where you mention him at all is the one where you say that his defense is reasonable. Which then turns into a vote? What?
Why is Boon Scummy? For reasons stated? I think your reasons are weak and you don't have enough cause to jump off of him and on to me. Boon needs to be Scum in order for me to be Scum in this scenario, correct? Otherwise its just me being opportunistic? If that was the case I would jump on to Chill.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:46 am

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notice the convenient second letter in my justification.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:52 am

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In post 105, Thestatusquo wrote:notice the convenient second letter in my justification.
Or, you know, I could just be trying to get more info on what you are doing, which I already talked about. Now if you don't believe I am doing that, that is one thing, but basically all you have done is say "this is typical Scum behavior, so that means LQ is Scum" a point you couldn't possibly make a meta argument on me of. Not going to self meta, I'll just point out my sig and let you think on that.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:58 am

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I think thats a gross misstatement of my point, which is more along the lines of "I see more scum motivation for what you are doing than town motivation for what you are doing."
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:01 am

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In post 107, Thestatusquo wrote:I think thats a gross misstatement of my point, which is more along the lines of "I see more scum motivation for what you are doing than town motivation for what you are doing."
And I think its pretty weak that you say I haven't provided any of my own thoughts on the game. There are worse offenders of your point b than what I have done.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:12 am

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I don't think I ever accused you of not providing thoughts. What I said is that you are jumping on wagons for which you provide very little justification. Your jump to boonskies after previous calling his response "pretty reasonable" just makes no sense from a town perspective.

My point b is not meant to be read in isolation, which is why it was part of an a b pair. Nor was it meant as you are using it. I see a and b as the most likely motivations behind the action you took, which means that the action most likely comes from a scum player. Are there town motivations for it? Like, sure. But mafia is a game of percentages and I think the balance of potential motivations suggests your action most likely came from a scum player.

This is why your point "that other people have done b worse than me" doesn't make sense in context. You are correct that people have also have been coasting, but there are motivations for their actual behaviors that could be called coasting that are more likely which are town.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:21 am

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I'm going to let the thread breath for a bit.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:26 am

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Hi.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:35 am

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In post 111, Mumble wrote:Hi.
This is Mumbles playing his typical scum game.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:38 am

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Excuse me. It's
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:54 am

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In post 103, LicketyQuickety wrote:VOTE: Lalendra

This needs rope.
Can you elaborate on what this means? I'm also confused about why you voted me and then continue your dialogue with TSQ. If you think what he is doing is scummy/bad play, why wouldn't you vote him instead? (Not saying I think you should, I'm not getting a strong scumlean on him; just trying to understand your thought process here.)

Havo - Are you serious about Mumble? If so, why not vote him?
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:10 am

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Notice how literally nobody voted errant. Seems to me he was using a stretch of a reason to push more momentum on my wagon. I do like his reasoning sure but it's a bit too early for that.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:11 am

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In post 115, Tchill13 wrote:Notice how literally nobody voted errant.
VOTE: Errant
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:28 am

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Licketey quickety is my strongest and only town read atm.
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:29 am

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In post 117, Tchill13 wrote:Licketey quickety is my strongest and only town read atm.
why not me?
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:31 am

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Because I literally can't read you tacos especially not on page 5 of a game. Why are you concerned with my read on you?
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:43 am

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In post 119, Tchill13 wrote:Because I literally can't read you tacos especially not on page 5 of a game. Why are you concerned with my read on you?
I'm not. Trying to twist my words huh?!!? SCUM !!!!!
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:44 am

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ur obv scum tchill
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:46 am

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obv because im easy to town read, and if ur "Struggling to read me" its cuz u scum. u know it urself down inside tchill.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:52 am

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Never change tacos. The one game I read your as town your gonna be scum lmao.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:54 am

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Only scummy things I've seen so far is errant pushing me for lack of content when most players were around 5ish posts.
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