Mini Normal 1952: Dragon's Dance [OVER - PERFECT SCUM WIN]

[Sergtacos]

Tchill is scum.

[acidphoenix]

fruits and vegetables

the semi-nightless

[LicketyQuickety]

fruits and vegetables

the semi-nightless

Yeah, found it. I feel like I have alzheimers. You are conveniently completely out of my memory. Weird.

[LicketyQuickety]

Tchill is scum.

Why?

[Tchill13]

Me and tacos I don't think have ever seen eye to eye on this site lol.

[Tchill13]

1) Fact remains that Tchill is still a fine wagon as someone who has had 7 posts to advance the game but has actually done almost nothing.

2) Havo's 31 is unnecessarily chip-on-shoulder. Unfortunately I couldn't find any scum games from him, so there's really nothing to look into there (and perhaps there wouldn't be anything to look into even if there were scum games to read). But early Havo ISOs in other games have him being pretty personable. Thoughts, Havo?

3) LQ's weird Lalendra analysis is pretty town. Fast look into LQ's normal games (from his very helpful wiki) makes me comfortable with that read.

4) Any pronouns are fine.

Alright it's day one and we're on page 5 I'm not sure what I should be talking about yet. What do you want me to discuss?

[schadd_]

Me and tacos I don't think have ever seen eye to eye on this site lol.

i reckon he's town then

[Tchill13]

I've just decided to let everyone else get a read on tacos because I swear he's scum every time I play with him then he flips town....every....time.

[Boonskiies]

I’m known for claiming like 5 different times as town. I’m THE reaction test player on site. I believe every post matters.

I’m also VLA until Friday, it I’ll likely be posting occasionally within that.

[LicketyQuickety]

I’m known for claiming like 5 different times as town. I’m THE reaction test player on site. I believe every post matters.

I’m also VLA until Friday, it I’ll likely be posting occasionally within that.

This seems acceptable. What do you think tsq?

[Thestatusquo]

Self meta is nonsense.

[schadd_]

I believe every post matters.

69 fart cave shweep de deep de doo

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm going to follow tsq on this one. Plus, I hate how Boon said they claim like 5 times in a game.

VOTE: Boon

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm aware I never gave a read on tsq as well. He's making some decent points and is playing aggressive and I like that. That would be my read on him atm.

[Errantparabola]

LQ I don't think I really get any of the things you've said, well, ever really.

Self meta is nonsense.

You're right conceptually but also being unfair I think. Boon's response is fine in this context IMO.

Alright it's day one and we're on page 5 I'm not sure what I should be talking about yet. What do you want me to discuss?

I want to buy this because we've all been there, and I'm not, like, super scumreading you or anything. It's just some of the things you're saying display to me some sort of self-consciousness about being perceived as contributing to the game.
Post RVS: Your 27 is you agreeing with someone who is attacking a very easily attackable post.
Your 33 is you agreeing with what is basically an obvious thing to point out-- VT's don't claim.
Your 39 is another obvious thing to point out.

I hope you can understand why I'm looking at your ISO and thinking-- "this is a player who really doesn't want to seem like they're doing nothing, but also doesn't know how to effectively look like they're hunting for reads."

69 fart cave shweep de deep de doo

Put this on my tombstone.

[Tchill13]

alright errant that's some good points. I thought the best play here would be creating 2 wagons for future reads. Not really crazy about day ones seeing how we have the least amount of info and we're really just feeling each other out. My scumhunting usually progresses with the game state. still haven't found a play style i enjoy on day 1.

[Tchill13]

I will say i'm opposed to risking a day 1 boonskies mislynch. He's a real asset when he's town i've seen it before.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: schadd

[Tchill13]

not sure why you decided to put the spotlight on me when there's multiple ppl that still haven't posted? i understand you're analyzing content but it comes off as setting up a huge push.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: errant

lol i talked myself back into it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Dude, almost everyone has posted so far. Not having checked in yet is entirely different from not doing anything with your posting so far.

VOTE: tchill

[Thestatusquo]

Ep, I know. It's almost like I did that on purpose.

I don't like how lq just said that boons response was fine and then jumped into the wagon after a one sentence non-argument from me. Like, at all.

VOTE: LQ

[Lalendra]

Okay I'm a fan of readlists, especially this early in the game, so here goes.

Spoiler:

LilUziVert has generated some good discussion. No real issues there but I don't have a read as of yet.
Boon claimed VT with first post and hasn't said much since. I don't get a scum read because that would be a pretty ballsy move out of the gate for scum to pull and draw way too much attention to themselves. Probably town.
Tchill said that claims don't generate discussion in RVS, which I don't necessarily agree with; I feel like claims are one of the easiest and quickest ways to get OUT of RVS. I'm not getting a huge scum vibe yet but haven't done a meta dive either, and he seems like an experienced player.
LQ pointed out that TSQ vs Uzi is probably not S v S, which I agree with. LQ has also made some good points, despite claiming stupidity earlier. I'm thinking town but not sure.
Tacos voted Havo for voting Boon, then jumped on schadd policy wagon on TSQ, then voted tchill without explanation. I'd like to see some actual content at some point.
Schadd policy voted TSQ, and said "Acid is a little yikes," but did not elaborate. Again, would like to see more content.
TSQ is probably not scum for reasons listed earlier, plus he is generating discussion, so I am leaning town on that one.
Havo's posts are aggressively pro-town, which is a risky stance for scum to take, but this player also sounds very experienced. I'm going to say town unless something makes me think otherwise.
EP wants to do a meta-dive on two players (me and LQ) even though he thinks we're town, which is a little odd but not unheard of to confirm reads, I'm not getting a scum vibe from that. Voted tchill without any explanation at first, but had some good analysis later.

I don't have any super strong reads yet but currently, Tacos and Schadd are probably my biggest scumreads simply because they have posted without actually saying or contributing much. Players who have more experience with them (or just in general) are welcome to tell me if they think I'm wrong on those.

Mumble and Egg, where you at?

P-Edit: Not a bad vote from TSQ for LQ. I am open to jumping on this wagon, depending on where it goes.

[acidphoenix]

VOTE: tchill
also >explanations with your readslist

unexplained readslist = goat

[Thestatusquo]

tchill is reading like Vi to me. I don't see a scum motivation for this latest vote hop specifically.

EPs points are good, but while the pattern of behavior could be consistent with scum trying to active lurk:

a) The behavior could also be consistent with town who legitimately doesnt quite know what is going on.
b) I think scum active lurking is behavior that typically doesn't happen in RVS
i) scum tend to "hide in plain sight" in the later stages of the game, not the RVS.
ii) I think scum are more likely to just lurk, rather than active lurk.

I'm not like town reading them or anything, but I think we have bigger fish to fry. Like LQ.

Can we kill it with fire?