In post 1073, TwoInAMillion wrote:I find it unlikely that he's town due to that he didn't use his shot early on. That would have been the town thing to do as his survival is not gauranteed.SK motivation is to lay low and assume you'll survive to later on in the game and shoot then.
a) I don't think that 'not using shot early on' = scummy. I don't think in this game there was an inherently town motivation in shooting early.
b)I disagree with the assumption that not using all of your vig shots is scummy
c) Chip was never dying n1 in this game, regardless of his alignment, so it's silly to argue that he should have shot n1 so that he wouldn't have unused shots before he died
In post 1074, Chip Butty wrote:Is this too dumb to be scum? I keep wavering on that question.But skitter is right. I should have shot you, if only to stem the flow of dumb.
I mean, you shooting Dany instead of the dude who quickhammered yesterday is nearly as anti-town as that quickhammer, but dumb != scum, or this game would have been solved ages ago.
Unfortunately differentiating between anti-town and scummy is really difficult right now . . .
And Chip's never groupscum here, even if he is an SK, so I'm pretty sure we don't want to lynch him today anyways.
So, assuming 3 groupscum, there's three of them in {Seph, Implosion, Two, Serg, Flubber, and wave}.
And I'm pretty sure Flubber is town.
This is a very blanket statement.
I do not know if it's true for scum/sk roles (have you even ever played in an SK game besides 1931, which I think you replaced into after the SK was dead?)
And while I agree that it would be scummy of a protective or investigative town role to not use their role, vig is kinda in a different category, and it can be anti-town for a vig to use their role (case in point: last night), so they might decide not to use their ability.
Like this is a super general statement that doesn't necessarily apply to many specific cases. In case it wasn't obvious, I think Chip's shot was anti-town. If he felt like his main two options were not to shoot or to shoot dany, I'd argue that he should have not shot last night.
I've felt like this literally every time he's posted this gameday.