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[Chip Butty]

VOTE: Chip[/b]

This is not optional. If you don't want to claim it's becuase you're scum and don't have a good fakeclaim.

That's a pretty convenient claim. He could still be a sk.

The correct answer is "Let's see if anyone counterclaims."

[TwoInAMillion]

Scum/sk tend to lurk, while town do not.

[Chip Butty]

Scum/sk tend to lurk, while town do not.

I've made 117 posts compared to your 112.

[TwoInAMillion]

I wasn't talking about posting activity, I was referring to use of your role.

[Sergtacos]

Scum/sk tend to lurk, while town do not.

I've made 117 posts compared to your 112.

BURNNNNNNNNNNNN

[Sergtacos]

I find it unlikely that he's town due to that he didn't use his shot early on. That would have been the town thing to do as his survival is not gauranteed.

SK motivation is to lay low and assume you'll survive to later on in the game and shoot then.

The fact that he didn't want to claim further incriminates him.

So, a vig should assume he won't survive until late game, and an SK should assume he will? Is this too dumb to be scum? I keep wavering on that question.

But skitter is right. I should have shot you, if only to stem the flow of dumb.

Vote him then lol

[Chip Butty]

I thought skitter wanted us to hold back from voting for the time being?

[Sergtacos]

Yeah she does but like yall saying yall suspect 2 in a million, i do too, so vote. dur.

[Chip Butty]

Yeah she does but like yall saying yall suspect 2 in a million, i do too, so vote. dur.

HMMMMM...

[skitter30]

I find it unlikely that he's town due to that he didn't use his shot early on. That would have been the town thing to do as his survival is not gauranteed.SK motivation is to lay low and assume you'll survive to later on in the game and shoot then.

a) I don't think that 'not using shot early on' = scummy. I don't think in this game there was an inherently town motivation in shooting early.

b)I disagree with the assumption that not using all of your vig shots is scummy

c) Chip was never dying n1 in this game, regardless of his alignment, so it's silly to argue that he should have shot n1 so that he wouldn't have unused shots before he died

Is this too dumb to be scum? I keep wavering on that question.But skitter is right. I should have shot you, if only to stem the flow of dumb.

I mean, you shooting Dany instead of the dude who quickhammered yesterday is nearly as anti-town as that quickhammer, but dumb != scum, or this game would have been solved ages ago.

Unfortunately differentiating between anti-town and scummy is really difficult right now . . .

And Chip's never groupscum here, even if he is an SK, so I'm pretty sure we don't want to lynch him today anyways.

So, assuming 3 groupscum, there's three of them in {Seph, Implosion, Two, Serg, Flubber, and wave}.

And I'm pretty sure Flubber is town.

Scum/sk tend to lurk, while town do not.

This is a very blanket statement.

I do not know if it's true for scum/sk roles (have you even ever played in an SK game besides 1931, which I think you replaced into after the SK was dead?)

And while I agree that it would be scummy of a protective or investigative town role to not use their role, vig is kinda in a different category, and it can be anti-town for a vig to use their role (case in point: last night), so they might decide not to use their ability.

Like this is a super general statement that doesn't necessarily apply to many specific cases. In case it wasn't obvious, I think Chip's shot was anti-town. If he felt like his main two options were not to shoot or to shoot dany, I'd argue that he should have not shot last night.

Yeah she does but like yall saying yall suspect 2 in a million, i do too, so vote. dur.

HMMMMM...

I've felt like this literally every time he's posted this gameday.

[Sergtacos]

vote already

[implosion]

I'm VT.

Inclined to believe Chip's claim. We in fact do not lynch him either way today assuming he's uncounterclaimed.

Serg, there is literally zero rush right now as we are in the middle of a massclaim.

I still want to lynch TIAM though.

[Chip Butty]

Exactly. We should take our time and try to get this right. If we hit scum with the lynch, we're right back in the game. Taco is acting blatantly suspicious now, and I'm not sure what to think.

[skitter30]

So, assuming 3 groupscum, there's three of them in {Seph, Implosion, Two, Serg, Flubber, and wave}.

Notice that of this group of six people, one of them is Two himself, and 4 of them (Seph, Implosion, Serg, and Flubber) are pushing a Two lynch. From my POV, there pretty much has to be groupscum within {Seph, Implosion, Serg, and Flubber}, so this Two push is pretty much guaranteed to have scum pushing it. This is making me really nervous, especially since town!Two is like scum's dream MYLO mislynch.

[Nexus]

Votecount 3.1:

TwoInAMillion (1)

- Sergtacos

Chip Butty (1)

- TwoInAMillion,

Not voting (6)

- skitter30, wavemode, implosion, Chip Butty, Flubbernugget, Sephiroth

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is at 9pm GMT on Thursday 14th December 2017 (expired on 2017-12-14 22:00:00)

[Nexus]

Votecount 2.1:

wavemode (1)

- Sergtacos,

TwoInAMillion (1)

- Lalendra

iDanyboy (1)

-

TownInAMillion

Sergtacos (2)

- wavemode, skitter30

Not voting (6)

- implosion, Wickedestjr, iDanyboy, Chip Butty, Sephiroth, Flubbernugget

With 11 alive, 6 to lynch. Deadline is at 8pm GMT on Monday 11th December 2017. ((expired on 2017-12-11 20:00:00))

Votecount 2.2:

Lalendra (5)

- Sephiroth, implosion, iDanyboy, wavemode, Sergtacos

Sergtacos (2)

- skitter30, Flubbernugget

iDanyboy (2)

-

TownInAMillion

, Lalendra

TwoInAMillion (1)

- Wickedestjr

Not voting (1)

- Chip Butty

With 11 alive, 6 to lynch. Deadline is at 8pm GMT on Monday 11th December 2017. ((expired on 2017-12-11 20:00:00))

Just to confirm, this is me being stupid, not indicative of anything. Clearly shouldn't write VCs when not fully paying attention

[Sephiroth]

I'm VT.

My only issue with chips claim is the flipped fbi agent. Is Nexus known to be a mischievous mod? I don't really know how common red herring fbi agents are.

[wavemode]

VT as well

[wavemode]

And then we have RB, Backup RB and FBI. And vig I suppose, if anyone believes that

Either way town PR's seem somewhat sparse if TIAM is fakeclaiming...

[skitter30]

Spoiler:

wossi/seph/wave/skitter/serg towny

I would vote lalendra, tiam, wicked, possibly implosion

I feel neglected

don't feel neglected.

If you had an instant one shot bullet right now and had to use it, who would you shoot?

Also, what is the best strategy for reading somebody like TwoInAMillion?

I'd shoot the guy my vote is on (wave), obv. Kind of a non-question. Also for neglecting me.

First time playing with TIAM. Strikes me as a lynchbait type. Best way to read is through that filter.

wossi/seph/wave/skitter/serg towny

I would vote lalendra, tiam, wicked, possibly implosion

I feel neglected

don't feel neglected.

If you had an instant one shot bullet right now and had to use it, who would you shoot?

Also, what is the best strategy for reading somebody like TwoInAMillion?

I'd shoot the guy my vote is on (wave), obv. Kind of a non-question. Also for neglecting me.

First time playing with TIAM. Strikes me as a lynchbait type. Best way to read is through that filter.

I don't think it's a non-question

If you want to lynch someone, you've got to get six other people to agree with you.
If you could just insta-kill someone, you don't
Sometimes wagons just refuse to grow on scummy players...

Okay that's a fair point. Would prob still shoot wave but Taco is also growing stronger as a contender the longer he is AWOL.

What the fuck drugs are you on, moron?

The kind that made me read 611 as you. I apologize. This just makes the whole Serg + Mulch thing even weirder to me.

You conflated Taco and me? Now, that really IS insulting lol.

Either or both could be trolling the game. Either or both could be scum. Neither can be allowed to make it to lylo/mylo.

In addition to my reads above, I want to make it clear i regard Mulch and Taco as LYLOabilities, a word i just made up to describe someone who would be a liability in LYLO...

I thought a normal would only have two factions?

Seph vs. Lalendra also happened because Lalendra doesn't realize (or wants us to THINK she doesn't realize) that there could be more then one faction of scum in normal.

Do you have any positive reason for raising the possibility of multibsll?

Chip, you wanna talk about these posts in light of your claimed actions?

[wavemode]

Notwithstanding Chip's alignment, we likely have to lynch scum today, not SK

I'd be willing to vote Serg or Seph

If we lynch correct and the game is still on, Chip should shoot TwoInAMillion tonight

[Sergtacos]

Notwithstanding Chip's alignment, we likely have to lynch scum today, not SK

I'd be willing to vote Serg or Seph

If we lynch correct and the game is still on, Chip should shoot TwoInAMillion tonight

why don't we vote for 2 in a million though? unless u his scum buddy? I town read u but im beginning to scum read u

[Sergtacos]

ok ok ok fuck it

[Sergtacos]

I'm really frustrated because I want a 2 in a million lynch, but fine lets lynch someone else if yall want that

[Sergtacos]

2 in a million is scummy as fuck.