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FWIW, I'd note that if you threw a scum neighbor into the mix instead of just goon I'd laugh out of review topic an 8/2 with a 1-shot vig and 1-shot jkIn post 7, acidphoenix wrote:i'm pretty sure
N1 Vigilante
N2 Jailkeeper
6 VTs or Neighborhood roles
vs
2x Mafia Goon / Neighborhood roles
would never be approved, so jay is basically clearShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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I mean I wouldn't be an asshole about it
But that wouldn't get approved by me anywayShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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I respect your reads more everytime we play together..In post 1214, Dunkerdoodles wrote:woah transcend is scum what a surprise.
anyways well played scum team, i caught onto una late i think but it was a fun game
thx for hosting acid"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una- sheepsaysmeep
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this is what i imagined when i started moddingIn post 1230, JaydragonKing wrote:When I host, literally everyone is gonna be a power role.
unfortunately this doesn't happen- JaydragonKing
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thanks, at least someone respects my playIn post 1238, UnaBombaH wrote:
I respect your reads more everytime we play together..In post 1214, Dunkerdoodles wrote:woah transcend is scum what a surprise.
anyways well played scum team, i caught onto una late i think but it was a fun game
thx for hosting acid
you're getting better and better every time, you played great- mastina
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You know that neighbors and neighborizers are considered net-null for town, right? Or in the case of a scum neighbor, +EV for scum, right?In post 1167, Katyusha wrote:yeah I guess I overestimated the strength of vig and neighborizer when there’s one more vt
Neighborizer adds nigh-zero value to town PRs. (It's a disproportionately strong scum role, but not a strong town role.)
So yes.
The game was balanced around essentially two PRs: the JOAT, and the N1 vig.- mastina
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Effectively? Nothing.In post 1174, Katyusha wrote:though now I’m curious what scum had as their pr
Una was a scum ninja-neighbor, but the ninja would be a rolecop guilty and had nothing to counter, so was negative utility in that sense, while the neighbor was +EV scumteam so in that sense was massively positive utility.
Transcend was a one-shot jailkeeper, basically exactly what he claimed. This gave scum SOME level of defense, while preventing them from having an overwhelming advantage--a single protection against a vig shot, or a single prevention against a town action, while letting the other town actions transpire.
It was close to being a two-goon scumteam. They didn't NEED more against the town's PRs. In fact what they had was in of itself pushing the borders a bit, to be honest. (Just, was allowed because rolecop getting a guilty + cop + vig = pretty strong town abilities to have in essentially-a-micro.)- Transcend
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When she voted without reading?In post 1197, JaydragonKing wrote:Can you really count that against her tho when she was here for only an hour?
Kinda, yes.
(But not much, see below.)
This wasn't a long hundred-page game so it was probably something she could read in about two hours, give or take, and that's accounting for her also having live interactions with players as she went. Without live player interactions, easily a one-hour catch-up.
That being said, wouldn't have madeof a difference for her to holster HER vote if sheepsaysmeep cast a proper vote anyway.much- mastina
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I can corroborate that setup would never pass review on my end, too.In post 1198, acidphoenix wrote:smith can you corroborate my rolespec thing that you wouldn't pass n1 vig n2 Jailkeeper random neighbors vs goons- Transcend
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i can't lie i thought for a second that sheep actually voted
it was a good gambit but then i caught on and warned una in the scum pt- sheepsaysmeep
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