Normal 1973 - The Fall of House Viliyr - game over

[sheepsaysmeep]

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[Transcend]

i think you did a good job at towntelling this game sheep

you were already in a pretty obvtown slot but i think you just solidified the obvtown that your slot was

[mhsmith0]

smith can you corroborate my rolespec thing that you wouldn't pass n1 vig n2 Jailkeeper random neighbors vs goons

I can corroborate that setup would never pass review on my end, too.

With town getting an extra body compared to the norm of 7/2, it’s probably not WILDLY far off.

8/2
Goon-goon
Against 1-shot vig
2-shot jk
6vts

Probably around acceptable for balance. I might worry about jk/vig interactions there tho...

[Transcend]

game was pretty tough for scum actually

there were two vts that were basically unlynchable for us, we had to try and get the town prs lynched and we did.

[mastina]

why dont they release reviews anymore

They do, but it's usually up to the mods to tell Nexus the review PT can be released. When they don't, Nexus may or may not release them and if he does, it's probably at the same time he moves the game to the archive (AKA, past the point where anyone cares about the game anymore).

[Transcend]

actually come to think of it, jay was incredibly obvious town and we had to bank on town not piecing the puzzle together and using our manipulations against them

[JaydragonKing]

A literal graveyard, then? Jeez that's crazy.

Oh, and hey again Mastina-san. I screwed up again but in a slightly not as bad way.

[Transcend]

in fact our two nks would've been on two people that would've pushed me to the grave so bravo us!

[mastina]

we had to try and get the town prs lynched and we did.

I mean, that's the way a proper game should be anyway in that you don't treat PR claims as in of themselves alignment-indicative. Setup spec does have a role to play in games, but it should always be secondary to scumhunting, not the other way around.

I'd rather mislynch a town PR than let a scum get away by claiming a PR that wasn't actually indicative of being town, so.

[Transcend]

that's true but i think jay's role in this setup was "if you lynch this you're an idiot".

[mastina]

(Another way of thinking about it: SOME roleclaims are alignment indicative. Setup spec, when properly utilized, can tell you that much. In this case, that the town needed Jay's role to be even remotely in the right range balance-wise for power role strength. But MOST roleclaims aren't indicative in of themselves of alignment. Play > role, and role != alignment, so you judge their claimed role with their play and search for signs of what they said lining up with what they claimed, and if it matches, whether that indicates town, indicates scum, or doesn't have a clear indication. Which is typically why towns are not meant to gambit, since gambiting is the realm of scum who hope to gain something.)

[JaydragonKing]

It would have worked better if both of my actions weren't invalidated because of course they were.

[Transcend]

if it makes you feel better i got strongmanned as a joat when i baited a bp hit

[Transcend]

but then town had a universal back up

but then town lost anyways

[Mulch]

I fucked up tbh


Wp scum especially una was obvious town (gulp)

[Transcend]

yeah town just absolutely bodied you for your mistake and i took advantage of that

[mastina]

but then town had a universal back up
but then town lost anyways

I reviewed that game!

Good times.

If memory serves me, town also lynched a PR there?

[mastina]

If memory serves me, town also lynched a PR there?

Oh right.
I was wrong.
Town didn't lynch a PR.

They lynched EVERY PR.

[mastina]

(Okay technically speaking there was one town neighbor who did not get lynched, but again, every real town PR which had any actual role was lynched, except for you who got strongmanned N1 in spite of you using your BP. Fun times.)

[UnaBombaH]

I fucked up tbh


Wp scum especially una was obvious town (gulp)

I think I might actually be able to play this game some day..!

[UnaBombaH]

Also, out of interest: how do guys like mastina and mhsmith always find ending games?

Do you monitor so many on-going games, or is there a secret thread where you see what games ended or..?

[UnaBombaH]

Also also: would love to play a game with mhsmith and mastina.
I was once in a newbie-game with mhsmith, but I got lolhammered D1 as DOC in that game, WHILE I was sleeping, so..

[mhsmith0]

Also also: would love to play a game with mhsmith and mastina.
I was once in a newbie-game with mhsmith, but I got lolhammered D1 as DOC in that game, WHILE I was sleeping, so..

Acutally the one where you were lolhammered as doc was the one where I went 2/2 in guessing the scum team while PMing penguin on i think day 2?

The newbie we played together was the one where the scum team was a pair of newbies but the town collectively decided that caring about playing the game was boring

*grumble grumble*

Also this

Subject: Newbie 1806 - The Ffery Garden: GAME OVER!

If I'm honest I forgot it was mylo

#ThingsThatHappenWhenSmithIsTown

[mastina]

Also, out of interest: how do guys like mastina and mhsmith always find ending games?
Do you monitor so many on-going games, or is there a secret thread where you see what games ended or..?

I watch every game I review, and even some I don't. Chances are if it's a Normal game, I have at least some semblance of passing familiarity with it.

Butyeah I reviewed this game, so. Watched it.

[mastina]

Also also: would love to play a game with mhsmith and mastina.

If it ever happens, quote this post where I say this:
Never trust me, trust mhsmith instead.