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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:06 am

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neko2086 wrote: I have a proposal. As an alternative to the Near-wagon, why don't we run up a scigatt-wagon? :D I think it could be quite informative.

Any takers?
What kind of information are you hoping to get out of scigatt by wagoning him?

also
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:44 am

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neko wrote:I have a proposal. As an alternative to the Near-wagon, why don't we run up a scigatt-wagon? I think it could be quite informative.

Any takers?
Sure. Pressuring is always a good way to get some conversation going.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:47 am

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Why Scigatt for a random wagon?

Yvonneseer has the least posts with... 1!

Okay it's only page 3, but we should be trying to get everyone talking now, I think.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:15 pm

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[quote="xtoxm]
Why Scigatt for a random wagon?
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It is anything but random from my part.
snix wrote: What kind of information are you hoping to get out of scigatt by wagoning him?
Discussing that right now would defeat the purpose. The best thing to do is let it happen and draw conclusions later.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:17 pm

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neko2086 wrote:[quote="xtoxm]
Why Scigatt for a random wagon?
It is anything but random from my part.
snix wrote: What kind of information are you hoping to get out of scigatt by wagoning him?
Discussing that right now would defeat the purpose. The best thing to do is let it happen and draw conclusions later.[/quote]

Or you could not be so vague and explain some things.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:03 pm

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Taking the opportunity to fix my tags. :evil: @ tags
Snix wrote:
neko2086 wrote:
xtoxm wrote: Why Scigatt for a random wagon?
It is anything but random from my part.
snix wrote: What kind of information are you hoping to get out of scigatt by wagoning him?
Discussing that right now would defeat the purpose. The best thing to do is let it happen and draw conclusions later.
Or you could not be so vague and explain some things.
The only thing I'm willing to explain at the moment is why I feel a wagon on Scigatt is justified. That should be pretty obvious though. What information I hope to gain from the wagon should not be discussed. We don't want to tell the scum what we are or aren't expecting them to say/do, do we? Unless of course you're scum, then you'd love for me to tell you all that. Wagon (or not) now, conclusions later, mkay? I'll let ya know when I've found what I'm looking for.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:09 pm

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Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious to me what neko's getting at here, and I could be wrong, but a less experienced player (like scigatt) wouldn't neccessarily.

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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:18 pm

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I doubt it will work now that you've basically admitted you are doing it as a somewhat of an experiment...

but what the hey!

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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:20 pm

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neko2086 wrote:Taking the opportunity to fix my tags. :evil: @ tags
Snix wrote:
neko2086 wrote:
xtoxm wrote: Why Scigatt for a random wagon?
It is anything but random from my part.
snix wrote: What kind of information are you hoping to get out of scigatt by wagoning him?
Discussing that right now would defeat the purpose. The best thing to do is let it happen and draw conclusions later.
Or you could not be so vague and explain some things.
The only thing I'm willing to explain at the moment is why I feel a wagon on Scigatt is justified. That should be pretty obvious though. What information I hope to gain from the wagon should not be discussed. We don't want to tell the scum what we are or aren't expecting them to say/do, do we? Unless of course you're scum, then you'd love for me to tell you all that. Wagon (or not) now, conclusions later, mkay? I'll let ya know when I've found what I'm looking for.
So you expect us all to blindly follow you on a wagon against scigat? Can you at least give me a reason as to why him? I understand the not telling the scum the plan thing but it's not like you're anymore trustworthy then the rest of us. Others can follow if they want, I wont.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:52 pm

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So you expect us all to blindly follow you on a wagon against scigat?
Don't worry bout it. As ThAdmiral has pointed out, I've said too much already.
Can you at least give me a reason as to why him?
Just look at his posts so far and you should be able to figure it out.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:53 pm

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Vote Count
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scigatt- 3 (neko2086, Cephrir, ThAdmiral)
Near- 1 (malthusis)
Cephrir- 1 (Xtoxm)
Snix- 1 (Near)
neko2086- 1 (Marmalade)
Xtoxm- 1 (Jester)
Peers- 1 (YvonneSeer)

Not voting (3): Snix, Peers, scigatt

7 to lynch.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:47 pm

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I must be missing something. Lol.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:48 am

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Neko, all I got from his posts is that he is newbie enough to tell us so and that hill make mistakes. He FOS'd near same as I did. I also notice that you've been on him since page 1.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:25 am

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let's get scigatt to -2.
then we lynch the last two people to put the hammer down on him!

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Lynch him and uncover the truth about RachMarie.

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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:25 am

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i meant.
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RBD IS SCUM.
Lynch him and uncover the truth about RachMarie.

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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:08 am

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Hey Peers! Long time no see.
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Oh, so now we are allowed to simply bandwagon players and call it experiments? If you want to partake in such silly things, at least choose a proper target. Such as ThAdmiral who has posted a lot of posts, not a lot of content, but a lot of bandwagoning.

vote ThAdmiral
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:34 am

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Such as ThAdmiral who has posted a lot of posts, not a lot of content, but a lot of bandwagoning.
Hm, I agree, except, 4 posts= a lot of posts? For the moment, I couldn't think of a better target than Scigatt, though.
let's get scigatt to -2.
then we lynch the last two people to put the hammer down on him!
Now would be the time to start being less sarcastic, if you are indeed being so here.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:41 pm

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Snix wrote:@Peers: thoughts?
My thoughts are that this is an amazingly small thread for how long it's been up, there's only one cop, and a random bandwagon with intent to pressure is only going to get a response of 'town'... let's face it, the cop doesn't want ot be outed if there's no doc, and the scum aren't going to be honest about who they are.

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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:28 pm

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My apologies. I'm almost certainly going to be unavailable until Friday in all of my games. This is an incredibly busy week for me at work. I will catch up and give my full opinion on Friday morning. Until then, it looks to me like we're pretty firmly out of the random stage, so I'm gonna
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:31 pm

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Peers wrote: a random bandwagon with intent to pressure is only going to get a response of 'town'... let's face it, the cop doesn't want ot be outed if there's no doc, and the scum aren't going to be honest about who they are.
Well, I am waiting to hear from scigatt, but he's not the only one that we can get information out of from this.

The cop wouldn't want to be outed even if we did have a doc, which of course, we know we don't. Here's a question for you, do you want to know who the cop is?

And, of course the scum aren't going to tell us they're scum... I don't know what you're getting at there...
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:56 pm

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Sorry I haven't been able to get on as much as I wanted, but RL got in the way.

Anyways, here are some scatterbrained thoughts on the game:

Near is, in my eyes, acting a bit more townie, but I am still suspicious. The FoS is still there for me, but weakened.

neko2086, I'm not sure what information you can glean from me, but I hope this post will help you, unless you're mafia. Anyways, I have a gut feeling that your motives are good, but that's it, I can't back that up. I do have a question, though: Do you want me lynched or not?

If you want a vote from me...

Well, MafiaWiki says that third to a bandwagon is likely to be scum, so:
Vote:ThAdmiral
(omg, a OMGUS vote!)
If anyone can convince me that my vote is misplaced, I'll gladly change it.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:58 am

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That scumtell really doesn't apply anymore, mostly because everyone knows it exists.

Interesting reaction, though. Doesn't seem much like scum to me.

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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:56 am

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I wouldn't vote ThAdmiral solely based on his position on the bandwagon, but I wouldn't say your vote is misplaced. Yvonne has a point about him. He's really contributed nothing thus far.

Do I want you lynched? No. Not at the moment, anyway. Not unless I think your scum, and for the moment, I don't think so. You made a less than impressive entrance into this game, and I wanted to see how people would react to a bandwagon on you.

It really didn't help as much as I'd hoped it would, but it did get a little bit of info. This is what I saw:

Near, I think, is still in random voting stage in his head. If he doesn't start taking this game seriously, soon, I'd be worried, as it is not helpful to the town at all.

Peers criticized the bandwagon as a start to D1 without really offering any alternative. This doesn't seem very proactive to me.

Yvonne, on the other hand, avoided the bandwagon, but she looked for a more viable scum suspect. Very pro-town move, imo.

ThAdmiral... I dunno. He's always a hard read. He hasn't really given us anything to work with yet, which would make me think he's more likely scum than town, at the moment, but we're only on page 3, so things ought to be changing rapidly soon.

Snix avoided the wagon like the plague, and I'm not sure of his motives yet. He seemed on one hand, very suspicious of it, which he ought to be, and yet, he seemed to be trying very hard to figure out what I was expecting/not expecting to hear. The purpose of the wagon is to get candid responses, and if you let everyone know what you're expecting to get out of it, that's what they'll give you.

Cephrir joined to get information as well. He seems like he's pro-town at the moment. Unless things change drastically, I'd say he's not going to be today's lynch. ThAdmiral seemed to have joined to get info as well, so I'm a bit hesitant to say he's leaning more scum than town. We just can't know yet.

Now, quick notes not related to the wagon:

Jester seems fine so far. He's being proactive. I don't think he'll be the lynch for today.

xtoxm said
Why Scigatt for a random wagon?

Yvonneseer has the least posts with... 1!

Okay it's only page 3, but we should be trying to get everyone talking now, I think.
His posts so far this game, not including the above:
Hey all!!

vote Cephrir

"None" as scum, how scummy is that?
Anyone who PEG likes is obviously scum.

Obviously.
Sarcasm doesn't work well over the internet, I didn't see it at all either.
I must be missing something. Lol.
Nothing of any real substance, yet he'd like contribution from others.

Malthusis hasn't really given us anything at all. It would be wonderful to hear from him very soon.

Marmalade had a problem with people attacking Near, so he voted me. Why me? I also had a problem with people attacking Near, but for different reasons. Marmalade really never gave any reason that points to me being scum. If he really did care about finding the scum going after an easy target, he'd be voting the people voting or FOSing Near, such as malthusis and scigatt. He would not be making up an excuse to vote for me.

Looking at the list of people here, I think the best place for my vote at the moment is
unvote; vote: Marmalade
. If you can effectively address my concerns, I may reconsider.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:17 am

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I can't get a read either way from Scigatt's reaction. Then again I didn't really understand what was being sought in the first place.

Snix and neko are one's that stand out to me as strong town reads.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:00 am

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neko wrote:Cephrir joined to get information as well. He seems like he's pro-town at the moment. Unless things change drastically, I'd say he's not going to be today's lynch. ThAdmiral seemed to have joined to get info as well, so I'm a bit hesitant to say he's leaning more scum than town. We just can't know yet.
"He's not going to be today's lynch" = you sort of seem like you're leading the town here. You're not the sole controller of the lynch, y'know. What also bothers me is your inconsistant treatment of certain reactions. You say ThAdmiral and I both joined the wagon for info, yet you're suspicious of him for not saying much when I really haven't either. Also, you're somewhat attacking ThAdmiral for lack of content, whereas here:
Malthusis hasn't really given us anything at all. It would be wonderful to hear from him very soon.
malthusis gets no suspicion for exactly the same thing? scigatt also made quite a few posts, and all you say about him is
Nothing of any real substance, yet he'd like contribution from others
So... what's up with that?
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