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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:57 pm

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In post 1222, Tchill13 wrote:Mod flavor... Honestly my favorite so far lol.
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This was really fun to mod. Thank you all tonnes for supporting us and being awesome players!

Some shout-outs incoming.
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:12 pm

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firstly I'd like to really sincerely apologise to Reundo (and by extension, everyone) for the error. Reundo received a mistaken result on nonny--I copied & pasted the wrong template (saying he DID detect motion rather than DID NOT). so the action i took was to:-
1. alert Reundo to the fact that his result was incorrect, and advise the correct result.
2. confirm that a mod error had occurred, but...obviously not confirm the nature of the mod error.
3. the extension was granted because the thread was locked for like ~15 minutes during a reasonably well flowing conversation, and it was pretty close to EOD. :oops:

since the information was in the thread, it's not that the slot was compromised. it's more that the nature of the information was compromised, and the incorrect solve was partially my fault. so i really sincerely hope this course of action was accepted by everyone. ultimately, it was the best thing I could think of. again I'm really sorry for the error; I think in future games I'll try and make action results more markedly different while carrying consistent language so that it's more noticeable. it's not easy being blonde, nor literally being a duck.


as far as people who really struck me as strong this game...

really well played
Reundo
- you randed a really tough TPR, and from a technical point of view your night actions were perfect. I was headcannoning in the mod thread that you were vanilla town hunting which is i think pretty close to what you did? which is technically excellent play. every time a motion detector detects nothing there's a >rand chance their result is a soft townclear, which is super super valuable. on the flipside, detecting motion which is inconsistent with claimed night actions is usually a tell that you've cottoned onto some scum manipulation OR the night killer! the only constructive feedback that I can think to offer would have been forcing a massclaim d4. I think given the low chance of Gamma not acting n1, Una's glorious credibility would've taken a bit of a hit which might have stalled for some time. still, you were in such a tough position at endgame. being a mislynch at a time like this is tough.

Tchill13
I think you know I really heavily rate your towngame (hopefully we stop b2b rolling against each other! :P) but, all things considered, I think this game stood up. I sincerely believe sub-14 day phases are a stronger choice for building player engagement in the mafia community, but I know that the swift adjustment can also somewhat compromise the flow of the thread. I believe that when apathy started to settle in, you were very centrally the town-aligned player who realised that the gamestate was stalling hard and town was in a precarious slot. as a result, your solving and re-invigoration efforts were absolutely brilliant. both solving scum!Una and rallying the support during your last day phase
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have been the game winning move, but I would've/could've/should've is too difficult. hindsight is 20/20, and all that. your force against dave nearly totally flipped the scales, and it was a pleasure to read!

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whaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!
when I saw you were scum against Boon again I had flashbacks to the chorus of outkast's i'll call b4 cum ft. gangsta boo, eco mafia and kinda expected you to slink into the background to avoid the wrath of whatever tenuous towncore is forming. and then these walls of glorious nonsense poured forth from venusaur's ass and it just sounded so so tiny
very well wolved sir, I could tell you challenged yourself to go further this game and needless to say, you nailed it!
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:28 pm

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Great modding, Worsty. I’d happily pre-in to any game you mod. Was a blast.


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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:39 pm

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The Boon babies will play together forever lol.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:40 pm

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SCUM CHAT WILL GO HERE IF THEY ALL COOL W THAT



Spoiler: resolutiony text wall :)
day one resolutions:

TiphaineDeath (vanilla town) is lynched

night one submissions:

FA_Q2 (Mafia Ninja 2-shot roleblocker) kills - ninja mod applies.
davesaz (Mafia Loud 2-shot Doctor) holsters.
Flavor Leaf (Town weak visitor) visits profii.
Gamma Emerald (Town non-consecutive night watcher) watches Carcalilly
Reundo (Town motion detector) targets Tchill13

night one resolutions:

profii has died; killed by FA_Q2 (ninja)
Flavor Leaf successfully visits & survives; is not notified
Gamma Emerald sees nobody visit Carcalilly
Reundo detects no motion on Tchill13

day two resolutions:

Carcalilly (town vengeful) is lynched.
wilky (vanilla town) is vengekilled.

night two submissions:

FA_Q2 (Mafia Ninja 2-shot roleblocker) roleblocks Completly Trustworthy (1 shot used, 1 remains) - ninja mod applies
davesaz (Mafia Loud 2-shot Doctor) protects Flavor Leaf (1 shot used, 1 remains) - loud mod applies
UnaBombaH (Mafia Goon) kills Gamma Emerald
Flavor Leaf (Town weak visitor) visits Tchill13.
Reundo (Town motion detector) UnaBombaH.
Gamma Emerald (Town non-consecutive night watcher) holsters (he cannot act due to acting the previous night)


night two resolutions:

Gamma Emerald has died; killed by UnaBombaH
Flavor Leaf successfully visited & survives; is not notified
davesaz successfully protects Flavor Leaf
Flavor Leaf is notified that he was visited by davesaz
FA_Q2 successfully roleblocks Completly Trustworthy (no effect)
Reundo detects motion on UnaBombaH

day three resolutions:

FA_Q2 (Mafia Ninja 2-shot Roleblocker) is lynched.

night three submissions:

davesaz (Mafia Loud 2-shot Doctor) loudly kills Flavor Leaf to death until dead [sic].
UnaBombaH (Mafia Goon)
sells the worst bread
holsters
Flavor Leaf (Town weak visitor) visits Completly Trustworthy
Reundo (Town motion detector) targets nonny

night three resolutions:

Flavor Leaf has died; killed by davesaz.
Flavor Leaf is notified that he was visited by davesaz
Flavor Leaf successfully visited & survives; is not notified
Reundo detected no motion on nonny

day four resolutions:

davesaz (Mafia Loud 2-shot Doctor) is lynched.

night four submissions:

UnaBombaH (Mafia Goon) kills Tchill13.
Reundo (Town motion detector) targets UnaBombaH.

night four resolutions:

Tchill13 has died; killed by UnaBombaH.
Reundo has detected motion on UnaBombaH.

day five resolutions:

Reundo (Town motion detector) is lynched.

endgame:

no power roles exist which could interfere with the mafia's factional kill.
the mafia achieves their win condition:
You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).
nonny (Vanilla townie) is endgamed.
Completly Trustworthy (Vanilla townie) is endgamed.
UnaBombaH (Mafia goon) survives and wins.
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:42 pm

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In post 1228, Tchill13 wrote:The Boon babies will play together forever lol.
I’m hoping to eventually get a game where there’s like 13 of us who know each other so well, but like WE ALL know each other that well. That’s when the real fun will come along. :lol:
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:44 pm

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I would love to roll the same alignment as you TW. I feel like I need. To play scum more to be better at it. If I ever roll scum with ppl I'm comfortable with its pretty fun.
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:44 pm

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Wait, how did I die then?

He protected me and killed me? Was the protect just for laughs and didn’t actually go through?
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:45 pm

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I have no objections to PT release.
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:45 pm

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@Unah - you were never getting my crumb. I based it off the Join date, and you’re in europe, so assumingly you have reverse day/month, haha.
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:46 pm

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In post 1227, Boonskiies wrote:Great modding, Worsty. I’d happily pre-in to any game you mod. Was a blast.


*Also, if you haven’t been informed, BooneyToonz VIII is nearly full!! 2 more slots, so if you wanna join in, go sign up in the mini theme queue. Killer playerlist.
Thank you very much! :> very keen for your game to begin :D

I really enjoy the positivity and comeraderie between a lot of the normal queue players. Genuinely enjoying the game and the list's company is such an healthy and important factor in keeping mafia fun.
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:47 pm

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In post 1232, Flavor Leaf wrote:Wait, how did I die then?

He protected me and killed me? Was the protect just for laughs and didn’t actually go through?
Davesaz wasn't multitasking, so he could either protect or use the factional kill at night (both would trigger his loud modifier). The night you died, he used the factional kill.
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:47 pm

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I agree. Tchill could fake a guilty on me as town, and I still wouldn’t be mad at him.

I’d be like, DAMN IT, TCHILL!!! And laugh it off. He must have had some reason in his mind that he thought it would work out if he were to ever do that.
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:48 pm

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The loud applied to all actions, not just the doc.
I was surprised it wasn't announced public -- that's how loud worked the last time I saw it. That difference in assumption changed how I played N1.
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:48 pm

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In post 1231, Tchill13 wrote:I would love to roll the same alignment as you TW. I feel like I need. To play scum more to be better at it. If I ever roll scum with ppl I'm comfortable with its pretty fun.
I really want to roll town with you next time. :lol: I've enjoyed reading your flowy gamesolving as both opposing scum and a mod now. One day I want to have a chance to join in and mean it!
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:49 pm

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In post 1236, the worst wrote:
In post 1232, Flavor Leaf wrote:Wait, how did I die then?

He protected me and killed me? Was the protect just for laughs and didn’t actually go through?
Davesaz wasn't multitasking, so he could either protect or use the factional kill at night (both would trigger his loud modifier). The night you died, he used the factional kill.
Oh, I get it. Loud went for the kill too.


But yeah, my game is a variant of how the old normal queue USED to be, haha. That’ll be in my opening post.

Actually, I probably can start working on all that stuff now. Game’s likely going to be given the green light anytime now.
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:49 pm

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Yeah the normal rules use a very specific (the 'rulebook' version) of the loud modifier. I actually sheeped Pine's application of it in NY214 very closely, because I know how meticulously that game was planned!
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:51 pm

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FWIW I'd never look back that many posts to find your crumb of target.
What we actually thought you might mean was think <- my avatar. :shifty:
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:57 pm

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Also I'm not sure if I'm meant to name them or not but the reviewers for this game went above and beyond to facilitate our (many, many, many, many) eccentric setup ideas.

I think the mafia roles for example offer a surprising duality to what the optimal play is (loud doctor offers vig cover or loud gambit play; ninja RB has to decide whether to duck the watcher+motion detector via the ninja kill or roleblock and expose the night killing teammate).

imo, it was a very fun design session :0
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:04 pm

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I watched Carca n1 cod I thought she was softing Neapolitan
What the fuck was the asking for VT claims dude?
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:06 pm

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Lmao. So the questions begin.
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:36 pm

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Sorry Reundo, should have stuck with my town read on you not have read into its depth.

This game legit was overwhelming for me and I ended up with a full plate in accident due to a unexpected re-roll. I need a lot more practice with endgames, always get stuck making the final decision and suck, kind of stuck CT with it, though if CT went for Una I probably would have changed over. Only thing I was sure of was that CT was town too.

Thanks for modding duck overlords. Mod error was handled well. Messed with my head a little but should have taken it all at face value.
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:20 pm

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That was a fun watch. Well done Una, another well played scum game from you
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:57 pm

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Release the PT!
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:19 pm

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Thanks to all for the game.

@Chill
- you almost made me pull my hair out when you basically solved the game and refused to compromise on a reundo lynch.
If I was playing to my best, I would've simply looked for a way to appease you and act enlightened. Voted dave, and then won today anyway. (I think :shifty: )
Instead I wanted to keep my head and argued you for absolutely no real reason, and almost threw the game in the process..good job on my part.
You played the last dayphase, and had you been more active earlier, you would've won this game for town after Boon was in the dirt.
Love ya man, I hope you never really want to blacklist me! :?

@Boon
- I'm happy I managed to somehow pocket you this game.
Even if the game itself required some very frustrating reveals from myself in regards to my usual scumplay, I'm still more satisfied with the first ~three gamedays.
You still managed to solve the game (like, what the actual fuck??? :lol: ) on that one horrible, horrible page that no one should ever try to mimic when I'm scum ever again.. :facepalm:
When I reread that page, I realized just how close you would've been to solving the whole game (=including me in scum), but I had managed to pocket you BEFORE you did that effort.
Had I begun my process later, or had I missed some of the opportunities I found, I think you would've named me as potential scum, and that could've already made all the difference.
Had I tried to climb into your townblock AFTER that page...I think this would've been another scum!Una-failure at lategame. :lol:

@Mods
- Thanks a lot for the game!
The modding was great, and I as well thoroughly enjoyed the flavor. Simple, yet brilliant.
BuDucky, you know you have claimed into my heart already from the time you still had a ban-sign for cats! (or was it wolves? dogs?) :?
Brafin, I hope to see you around more, I think we have passed in some games already, but not many times anyway. :]
I just sincerely thought you were a goose before this game, but now I know... :roll:

@Gamma
- I actually wanted you killed N2.
Simply because I have played a few games with you before, and I was afraid of you the most D1/D2. Imagine that! ;)
I had a hunch that I was off to a decent start, but still had work to do with Boon.
However, I felt certain you would then pair either the two of us as scum, or just push me as one while I'd do my best to turn Boon into my protective angel.. I couldn't have any of that, so you had to go! :twisted:
Seems it payed off in more ways than one... :]

@everyone else
- enjoyed playing with you all, and this game actually had multiple players I have enjoyed playing with before as well! :]
Hope to bump into you guys in the future!
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