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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm
by Lapsa


VOTE: xwing

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 pm
by mastina
Yknow.
I actually don't think I'll be changing this.
I thought that it was Xwing/Egix or Nikk/Lapsa, and stand by that.
And I scumread Egix strongly.
And Xwing's handling of the vote has been suspect.
So I think that I'm comfortable banking on this, actually:

VOTE: xwing

If I'm wrong, I apologize.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:54 pm
by xwing
i've been going 1v1 with almost everyone now except egix..
yes, this is an open invitation for everyone to grill me more..
preferably real time so there's no time for scum!team to discuss..just spew.. :)

pedit: yes, i was not..i thought it was clear who the scum team was by that point, and i was confident on egix-mastina town would see that..

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:05 pm
by schadd_
you can work late, til midnight
we don't care
we can fix our own meals, we can wash our own hair

sufjan stevens - pittsfield


d5 final vc


xwing (3):
Nikk, Lapsa, mastina

Lapsa (1):
xwing

not voting (1):
Egix96

with 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:06 pm
by schadd_
mastina, lapsa, goldenparadox win

im on a train rn i will take care of grander providences later

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:07 pm
by TheGoldenParadox
YASSSSS

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:07 pm
by Nikk
Dang.

Should've unvoted once I started to doubt mastina
Good game scum team, especially that last day.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:08 pm
by schadd_
paradox while youre here are u ok to release scum thread

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:10 pm
by mastina
Btw, I never lied about any theory stuff, but:
I genuinely feel this game was scumsided.
I was not only ascetic, but informed of the existence of a Town Loyal Neighborizer.
AND.
Lapsa was a Multitasking Roleblocker.

I aired my thoughts out in scumchat more, but basically:
2/4 of those traits would've been balanced. Acetic + Roleblocker, unaware of what they're against and unable to both block and kill? Balanced. Informed Ascetic? Balanced. Informed plus Roleblocker? Balanced. Multitasking Roleblocker? Balanced.

3/4 of those traits would've been a little scumsided, but still
passable
; I'd say scum win with 3/4 of those traits about 55-58% of the time. Since the margin of error is 10%, that's still acceptable since it's before the 60% cutoff.

All four? My estimate is about the setup was that scum win around 62.5% of the time, here; the town really feels like it needed
something
else and I was surprised to see the three VT claims in lylo.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:11 pm
by Nikk
Maybe, but that shouldn't take away from the good play done in the game.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:12 pm
by TheGoldenParadox
In post 1082, schadd_ wrote:paradox while youre here are u ok to release scum thread
Sure!

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:14 pm
by schadd_

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:18 pm
by mastina
In post 1084, Nikk wrote:Maybe, but that shouldn't take away from the good play done in the game.
Still, though.
I have to say it does feel a little less rewarding to me than if the scum had less powers at their disposal.
In the end, while people were townreading me for both my predecessor and my own play, it's undeniable that there was some degree of townreading me from my claim, because to some extent it felt like the town
needed
my power to be town in order for it to be balanced. At least to me.
Can we get to read dead chat?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:19 pm
by Nikk
Lol at 200 is the scumchat

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:21 pm
by Lapsa
Bah

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:22 pm
by schadd_

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:23 pm
by Nikk
More laughing at myself to be clear.

My gut is usually right, I need to relearn to just listen to it.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:23 pm
by mastina
Btw props to Lapsa for the blocks. The N1 block was always gonna be on a PR, but Lapsa shifted it from being on Wagonomics to Flubbernugget, a key change in the game since it likely lead Flubber to falsely believe he had a guilty. Smart decisions there.

And, yes.

We got really, really lucky with the nightkills, in that the players we wanted to nightkill were power roles.

Also, yes.
You really did have a D1 scum lynch with no scum bussing!
Statistically speaking, that really IS a huge abnormality, especially in Normals, because the norm really IS that if you lynch scum D1 you probably have scum bussing. This game was quite unusual in that regard.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:27 pm
by schadd_
i hope somebody listened to one of the songs and liked it

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:32 pm
by mastina
Subject: mini 2048: yeet thread (NOMPELYE)
schadd_ wrote:
In post 69, mastina wrote:So with a loyal neighborizer in this game. Against an informed ascetic. And a multitasking roleblocker.

We're still looking at a shitton of power missing. It's a bit early to tell their exact nature but I wouldn't be surprised to see a vig in here. We also likely have a second investigative role, but probably not cop, gunsmith, or neapolitan. More like similar to the Loyal Neighborizer, or Tracker, or Follower, the like.
I'd be expecting AT LEAST four total town PRs in the game, potentially even five. I'd stay on the lookout for a protective as well, though I doubt ungated since it'd be a little unfair to expect the scum if losing the roleblocker to overcome follow the cop.
is she in the nrg or something
(You already know the answer is yes. :P)
Subject: mini 2048: yeet thread (NOMPELYE)
LolWagons wrote:I really came to enjoy Nikk and xWing this game, as I did Profii and trivium last game.
It sucks to see them all on the same alignment just completely missing the mark.
For what it's worth, I second this!
Subject: mini 2048: yeet thread (NOMPELYE)
LolWagons wrote:Damn Robert just called both
I know, rite? It was quite fortunate that he was the mislynch because otherwise we'd have to have nightkilled him. :P

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:44 pm
by schadd_
i don't see ascetic being exceptionally strong especially claimed early; the only thing it technically interacts with is voyeur; it strategically inoculates you from the neighborizers but In Theory town should be lynching you marginally more often to counteract that

inform and roleblocker are rather ströngüe but i think it's hard to use them to capacity and i think most people in this queue arent used to thethe scumplay zone of playing around specific PRs

also i recently modded the cop-neap-rb setup and was perhaps over-worried abt towns spiraling out of control

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:50 pm
by Slaxx
Hey it’s lolwagons

There was 1 post Lapsa should have been lynched for, think I mentioned it in the dead PT.

But they both played well, not for sure I ever would have caught Mastina and you can’t chastise Lapsa because what he did worked. Good job guys!

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:51 pm
by Slaxx
Xwing never ever should have been lynched they were town af

Really so was Egix but that’s always a personal read of mine. I’ve been right on him like 4/4 now.

Nikk I probably woulda lynched so meh

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:03 pm
by profii
I give myself 10 out of 10 for my performance

And by 10 I of course mean minus 10

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:04 pm
by Robert2424
How do you not lynch Lapsa....He did nothing all game. Then Pretended to be busy. It was obvios Mastina and Lapsa was scum.