Mini Normal 2060: World Architecture [Endgame]

[Tchill13]

Plus my familiarity with FL/boons is something I pride myself in. Not necessarily my ability to "play" him as scum but my ability to play with him that's beneficial to me no matter what our alignments are.

At one point he stated scum tchill always gets in an argument with him. Simply because of that statement I avoided an argument this game.

I'll never talk about him in a negative way due to the fact that not only did he mod most of my first few games but I just enjoy playing with or against him here as well. PP is also a player I enjoy on site. Pers and SS maybe new additions to that lists and ik everyone can't play their best every game so it's not like I'm writing off other players immediately. I just liked SS and Pers based off this game.

[Tchill13]

No need for all the claims d1. No need for a fake jail keeper gambit. Those 2 things hurt town more than anything imo.

I agree with this. I am a strong proponent of town never lying except in extremely limited circumstances.

I touched on issues town has on this site in the scum thread.

It's getting out of control. It'll never be fixed due to ego unless site wide trends begin to punish those that play a certain way. Which will probably never happen.

I understand mods are TRYING to fix it with giving town more power...

That's not the answer for players that refuse to play as town In a consistently positive way that is beneficial for the GROUP opposed to the individual "hero".

[Not_Mafia]

I never claimed cop btw

[PenguinPower]

I never claimed cop btw

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I softed town cop earlier

and my role is in [alignment][modifier][role] format

But I'm a PR

I sub-buttle-ly softed cop

I say what I mean and I mean what I say

You sure didn't...

[Slaxx]

You don’t win arguments with these types PP, you only waste precious time.

[Tchill13]

Perfect timing from nm. Never fails lol.

[Flavor Leaf]

Because I trusted you, Tchill!

That’s the 2nd time you’ve done it to me, and both times, I’ve been slightly suspicious, and went “oh, fuck. Tchill’s definitely scum.”

And then proceeded to town read you again.

Beginning of Day 2, I even said “why’d you kill blah blah”

[Flavor Leaf]

You learned after that first game we ever played together. And I got you day 1, then we won as scum together.

I’m trying to have a strong town game this year. That’s where my focus is gonna be.

I feel I played pretty well here for the most part.

I messed up with Sad Sheep. I think my Vedith read made sense with the way I was being pushed so hard, and I regret hammering Jibril.

I feel Chill would have been on me hard had I not hammered.

I think it was a well played game by scum. I’m going to take what worked from this game, and trust my reads more, and be weary of my blindspots, especially when I know Chill’s a blindspot of mine.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also hate the town power addition thing. It’s just stressful playing as scum, but still just as beatable, tbh.

I like giving scum some negative utility in setup, but I like daytalk.

[Not_Mafia]

I never claimed cop btw

Well

t

allyh

o

fuckers,

w

ould you look at this tur

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of events,

co

uld we all commit to a rollicking good jaunt,

p

resto now

I softed town cop earlier

and my role is in [alignment][modifier][role] format

But I'm a PR

I sub-buttle-ly softed cop

I say what I mean and I mean what I say

You sure didn't...

I don't see any claim

[PenguinPower]

As I said...you sure didn't.

Thanks...

[Tchill13]

Yeah FL only real mistake I see that you may have made was correctly stating scum would be pushing jibril but then failing to notice that's exactly what I was doing lol. Other than that I thought you played well. It's not like you have to worry about someone SO accustomed to you every game. Only reason I almost always let you live long when I'm scum and you're town is SPECIFICALLY due to familiarity.

[northsidegal]

Also pers kept me from doing gambits just to do them and picked out PP as watcher. Great game from pers.

just so you know, had you gone ahead and claimed goon cop you would have confscummed yourself – goon cop is not a whitelisted role for normal games.

[Tchill13]

I think vedith would have been much better had he played the whole game instead of replacing in.

I mean we really, really got lucky PP just so happened to be the watcher (I wanted him dead before pers discovered that) and then we could play off the enter night kill as a PR kill.

It was really dumb to tell jib where to jail. We knew enter would be a free nk because of that. What's funny is jibs fake claim put us in SUCH a harder position lol.

Of course it derailed setup spec. Also hurt the watchers play. Plus could have false cleared me had I made the kill...

Still not worth the fake claim.

[Tchill13]

Also pers kept me from doing gambits just to do them and picked out PP as watcher. Great game from pers.

just so you know, had you gone ahead and claimed goon cop you would have confscummed yourself – goon cop is not a whitelisted role for normal games.

I'm pretty sure I've fake claimed a role that wasn't allowed in normals before lol.

Thanks for modding. I'm life gets in the way sometimes, the hiatus wasn't a huge deal to me.

[Jibril]

Also I absolutely love town that KNOW I'm scum but lack the skill to of convincing others to work with them.

Jibril. I'd love to know why you fake claimed. That's rough.

FL, I was wondering why you didn't realize you said scum would want jib lynched but didn't say anything about me pushing the hell out of jib.

Also I really enjoyed playing with pers. Dude has similar... Guidelines to how he approaches the game as I do.

I think Slaax and PP were towns best players. I don't blame them a bit for issues they had during this game given what jibril did and how bad enter looked pushing me.

We got really lucky because for the most part this is one of the worst games I've ever seen from town.

GG's though. This was my first game back from a hiatus and I was actually nervous because I drew scum.

I really just wanted to play this time. I just got lynched D1 in another game before this, I was L-2 and Dr Worm was going to hammer. I saw Master claim a role as VT in another game and it worked.

I was SO onto you and I can see you were scared of me in your Werebeast chat that you stopped using powers and almost killed me. I pleaded with Master to consider you, he ignored me. I didn't think Parsley was the Werebeast.

GG Mr Werebeast and Parsley. And Dr Worm.

[Enter]

Also I absolutely love town that KNOW I'm scum but lack the skill to of convincing others to work with them.

Jibril. I'd love to know why you fake claimed. That's rough.

FL, I was wondering why you didn't realize you said scum would want jib lynched but didn't say anything about me pushing the hell out of jib.

Also I really enjoyed playing with pers. Dude has similar... Guidelines to how he approaches the game as I do.

I think Slaax and PP were towns best players. I don't blame them a bit for issues they had during this game given what jibril did and how bad enter looked pushing me.

We got really lucky because for the most part this is one of the worst games I've ever seen from town.

GG's though. This was my first game back from a hiatus and I was actually nervous because I drew scum.

well played

if i wasn't so bad at doing pr things i think i would have been better at doing vt things that i'm usually pretty ok at

good job guys

[Enter]

jib are you an alt

[Enter]

definitely screwed up my PR stuff again... someday i'll get used to having actual powers lol

i definitely take blame for really messing up d1/d2 even if i'd been alive d3 i panicked and tracked the wrong person lol

[Jibril]

You were fun to play with Enter.

[Enter]

You too, Jib.

[Tchill13]

Yeah I was kind of annoyed by you two lol.

Wanting to play makes sense. Because it SUCKS getting lynched early for little to no reason. I'm not saying it's justified but at least you had a reason.

Enter I would have tried not to kill you but you were a pr I had to lol. I'd much rather have confrontation as scum, as weird as it sounds.

I was honestly bummed lylo ended the way it did. I was looking forward to a huge 1v1 then trying to convince Slaax vedith and emp were scum.

[Enter]

Yeah I was kind of annoyed by you two lol.

Wanting to play makes sense. Because it SUCKS getting lynched early for little to no reason. I'm not saying it's justified but at least you had a reason.

Enter I would have tried not to kill you but you were a pr I had to lol. I'd much rather have confrontation as scum, as weird as it sounds.

I was honestly bummed lylo ended the way it did. I was looking forward to a huge 1v1 then trying to convince Slaax vedith and emp were scum.

Ha, I understand
I really really fucked up w/ my claim and how I handled day 1, and that was my bad
this was one of my worst town games yet, i'm really really not used to handling power roles

[Enter]

I do wanna admit that i have an ongoing problem of getting decent reads (like the scumread on you) and then getting ate'd off it and manipulated away from it
i'm super weak to ate

I definitely understand wanting to do the confrontation as scum it just makes the game more fun and feel more real

[Enter]

i really need to figure out how to not let people manipulate me like i let you manipulate me

you played super well everyone else was convinced you wre town, lol