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[Exilon]

Because i wasn't sure if we were out of rvs and wanted to be on time to be part of it

Is that scummy?

[RuiRui]

VOTE: ruirui

This is the kind of rvs post i can see scum making ^^^^

(i'm not explicitly calling her scum for this rn, but noting that it comes from scum more than town imo)

What do you mean by this? How come it comes from scum more?

[cbynumber]

Because i wasn't sure if we were out of rvs and wanted to be on time to be part of it

Is that scummy?

It's like you're making sure it's ok to cast a random vote so you don't have to come up with real ~reasons~
So, yeah.

[ChannelDelibird]

Hi everyone! For those who haven't played with me before (which is most of you - it's been a long time!), please note that my username is commonly abbreviated as CDB.

VOTE: ruirui

This is the kind of rvs post i can see scum making ^^^^

(i'm not explicitly calling her scum for this rn, but noting that it comes from scum more than town imo)

VOTE: skitter

Why wouldn't you vote for Ausuka here instead of keeping your vote on a random person who hadn't yet posted?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Town AGAIN? Really? Sigh...

VOTE: Ausuka

No naked votes allowed reeeeeeeee

Something about the tone of the bolded bothers me.

Do you dislike playing town?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I’ll have to double check but this seems to be Exil’s second game in over a decade. The first one being a Newbie and currently ongoing. I can buy him not knowing if RVS is over or not.

[Ausuka]

VOTE: ruirui

This is the kind of rvs post i can see scum making ^^^^

(i'm not explicitly calling her scum for this rn, but noting that it comes from scum more than town imo)

VOTE: skitter

it's literally just a naked vote and my standard entrance. why are you not explicitly calling me scum for it? if you think it comes from scum more than town, and the average player has a 1/4 chance to be scum, that's great odds on page 1. it feels as if you're afraid of entering a confrotantion so early more than anything else.

[Egix96]

Town AGAIN? Really? Sigh...

VOTE: Ausuka

No naked votes allowed reeeeeeeee

Something about the tone of the bolded bothers me.

Do you dislike playing town?

No, not at all. But I'm amazed that I've managed to rand town five times in five mini normals. No idea what the actual odds are of that but it's a stark contrast from my rand luck in open queue...

[Exilon]

Because i wasn't sure if we were out of rvs and wanted to be on time to be part of it

Is that scummy?

It's like you're making sure it's ok to cast a random vote so you don't have to come up with real ~reasons~
So, yeah.

does this mean your stance will change when i start voting with real reasons?

Sounds fair.

No but srsly is rvs over now /s

[Exilon]

I’ll have to double check but this seems to be Exil’s second game in over a decade. The first one being a Newbie and currently ongoing. I can buy him not knowing if RVS is over or not.

This is correct! I also had a itch to scratch

[Inferno390]

What the heck
I have to do analysis already?
Alright, give me a moment to read slowly
Also, I highly recommend shortening my name to 390.
And I claim Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Lazer Beams Out of It’s Ass.

[Inferno390]

VOTE: Exilon
I’m off-put by the tone here. Seems weird.
Skitter feels pushy
Sash feels reachy
Egix is NAI I think

[Egix96]

Skitter feels pushy

Is that meant to be in a good way or a bad way?

[Inferno390]

Pushy in a bad way. It feels unnatural, like she’s forcing her reads or something.

[skitter30]

Town AGAIN? Really? Sigh...

VOTE: Ausuka

No naked votes allowed reeeeeeeee

i don't particularly like this post, the first line kinda feels like you felt the need to randomly share that you're town which feels a little ????? and meh

VOTE: ruirui

This is the kind of rvs post i can see scum making ^^^^

(i'm not explicitly calling her scum for this rn, but noting that it comes from scum more than town imo)

What do you mean by this? How come it comes from scum more?

i've noticed that scum sometimes find trouble figuring out what to say or do in rvs, and that instead of engaging with *already existing content* will sometimes pop in and make an empty vote; i find making an empty rvs vote in lieu of engaging with content that already exists to be scum-indicative, and have seen scum do this more than once. ausuka's rvs kinda looked like that to me

Why wouldn't you vote for Ausuka here instead of keeping your vote on a random person who hadn't yet posted?

idk
i usually don't switch my vote from rvs until i have a solid scumread; i don't have one rn and it didn't occur to me to switch my vote there

i think i can sort urap fairly easily which is why i put my rvs vote there

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VOTE: ruirui

This is the kind of rvs post i can see scum making ^^^^

(i'm not explicitly calling her scum for this rn, but noting that it comes from scum more than town imo)

VOTE: skitter

it's literally just a naked vote and my standard entrance. why are you not explicitly calling me scum for it? if you think it comes from scum more than town, and the average player has a 1/4 chance to be scum, that's great odds on page 1. it feels as if you're afraid of entering a confrotantion so early more than anything else.

i don't think you're inherently scum for it, but i think that post comes from scum more often than town (which is not at all the same thing as thinking you're scum)

i don't think i've played with you much recently and i don't remember offhand what your regular rvs looks like

and i'm not afraid of entering confrontation (lol). i'm also not going to call you scum for making an rvs post that i disliked. it felt weird, so i noted it. it generated discussion (which i'm always a fan of in rvs!). do i think it's a bad post? yes. am i calling you scum and seriously pushing you for that? no.

i don't think that having an awkward entrance inherently makes you scum, it makes it something worth noting and to use to start generating discussion

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i think inferno may be town

[u r a person 2]

Town AGAIN? Really? Sigh...

VOTE: Ausuka

No naked votes allowed reeeeeeeee

yikes

VOTE: egix

[u r a person 2]

We're not yet out of rvs right
Garmr's town read on me is solid, it's 100% correct

VOTE: u r a person 2
How does one shorten this name??

People call me Urap2 or Urap or U2

[u r a person 2]

VOTE: Exilon
I’m off-put by the tone here. Seems weird.
Skitter feels pushy
Sash feels reachy
Egix is NAI I think

egix partner

[u r a person 2]

i think i can sort urap fairly easily which is why i put my rvs vote there

orly

[ChannelDelibird]

UNVOTE: Skitter

If you're not willing to trade up your 'random' vote for something more relevant the instant that it is possible to do so, then making a random vote at all seems pretty pointless. Either you think a vote is a useful pressure tool or you don't!

(I won't be continuing this discussion any further, though, as it's only likely to be a distracting theory debate and I've long since accepted that nonsense viewpoints on how to early-game are not a scumtell. Skitter's reaction to my vote is disappointing but not particularly indicative of scum.)

Very mild townlean on Inferno.

VOTE: Egix

If you were town, I would find it pretty hard to believe that you were genuinely astonished to be so (you know what the odds are every time you join a game!), especially given that apparently you've been scum in other game formats anyway. Maybe there'd be a "huh, OK then!" to yourself upon reading your role PM but caring so much that you brought it into the thread in such an overblown "wow, can you believe it!?" sort of way? No, it doesn't feel right.

[skitter30]

i think i can sort urap fairly easily which is why i put my rvs vote there

orly

ok, do you think i'm being overconfident? lying about my ability to read you? something else?

[skitter30]

(I won't be continuing this discussion any further, though, as it's only likely to be a distracting theory debate and I've long since accepted that nonsense viewpoints on how to early-game are not a scumtell. Skitter's reaction to my vote is disappointing but not particularly indicative of scum.)

i mean i'll drop this too if you like but i disagree that i have a 'nonsense viewpoint' on how to earlygame

[ChannelDelibird]

Remind me to talk about it after the game if you want to go into it any further. I really doubt it's worth our time otherwise.

[skitter30]

fair enough

[bob3141]

VOTE: Unvote