Mini 2082: Hall of Mirrors I (Game Over!)


User avatar
Formerfish
Formerfish
Busboy Revolutionary
User avatar
User avatar
Formerfish
Busboy Revolutionary
Busboy Revolutionary
Posts: 12855
Joined: July 1, 2013
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:07 pm

Post by Formerfish »

In post 1974, Sherlock Holmes wrote:
In post 1971, Formerfish wrote:Its more that you attacked me for having bad reads but I dont know who you are so i dont know if that was a bad game or if youre lying.
I might have been overstating how bad your reads were honestly, although you did have a very vocal scumread on me which was very distracting to my process which is more what I was thinking of when I said you had bad reads. I don't actually remember your reads on hardly anyone else; maybe they were fine.
Ok, now that you are backtracking, would you be willing to reach out to me post game and we can talk privately?
Show
"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."

"FF, you're a dick, but you don't hit below the belt. So you're a dick about finding scum, not hurting the people who are playing the game. That's acceptable dickary." MaryJoLisa

Need advice? Ask a Fish.
User avatar
Sherlock Holmes
Sherlock Holmes
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Sherlock Holmes
Goon
Goon
Posts: 139
Joined: June 13, 2019

Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:07 pm

Post by Sherlock Holmes »

btw Pine's vote was a hammer
User avatar
Formerfish
Formerfish
Busboy Revolutionary
User avatar
User avatar
Formerfish
Busboy Revolutionary
Busboy Revolutionary
Posts: 12855
Joined: July 1, 2013
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:11 pm

Post by Formerfish »

fucking hell, it was.

Ok. Now we wait.
Show
"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."

"FF, you're a dick, but you don't hit below the belt. So you're a dick about finding scum, not hurting the people who are playing the game. That's acceptable dickary." MaryJoLisa

Need advice? Ask a Fish.
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Professor Moriarty
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Goon
Goon
Posts: 310
Joined: June 13, 2019

Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:27 pm

Post by Professor Moriarty »

I wanted to end the world, but I'll settle for ending yours.
Modding hydra of Something_Smart and the worst.
"because you're the worst... and you're smart." -Haschel Cedricson
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Professor Moriarty
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Goon
Goon
Posts: 310
Joined: June 13, 2019

Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:29 pm

Post by Professor Moriarty »

VC 4.2
Garmr (4)- MariaR, Sherlock Holmes, Gamma Emerald, Pine
MariaR (1)- Formerfish

Not voting (2)- Dunnstral, Garmr

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-07-17 16:00:00)

Mod notes: quack
Modding hydra of Something_Smart and the worst.
"because you're the worst... and you're smart." -Haschel Cedricson
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Professor Moriarty
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Goon
Goon
Posts: 310
Joined: June 13, 2019

Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:33 pm

Post by Professor Moriarty »

Garmr was Gar
mrdrd
. He was a...

Spoiler:
Mafia N3 InformedWelcome, Garmr, to Mini 2082: Hall of Mirrors I. Your role is
Mafia N3 Informed.


[sound of meese softly bleating]

At the end of Night 3, you will learn some information about the setup. This information is guaranteed to be true.

You win when the mafia control 50% of the town or nothing can prevent this.
Modding hydra of Something_Smart and the worst.
"because you're the worst... and you're smart." -Haschel Cedricson
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Professor Moriarty
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Goon
Goon
Posts: 310
Joined: June 13, 2019

Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:36 pm

Post by Professor Moriarty »

The mafia have been shattered!
Congratulations to the town on winning Mini 2082!!


scum pt here
neighbourhood pt here
dead pt here
mod pt here
Last edited by Professor Moriarty on Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:41 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Modding hydra of Something_Smart and the worst.
"because you're the worst... and you're smart." -Haschel Cedricson
User avatar
Skygazer
Skygazer
any
For My Next Guest
User avatar
User avatar
Skygazer
any
For My Next Guest
For My Next Guest
Posts: 11600
Joined: June 17, 2018
Pronoun: any
Location: Baltimore

Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:37 pm

Post by Skygazer »

/consent to neighborhood being released
User avatar
Skygazer
Skygazer
any
For My Next Guest
User avatar
User avatar
Skygazer
any
For My Next Guest
For My Next Guest
Posts: 11600
Joined: June 17, 2018
Pronoun: any
Location: Baltimore

Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:37 pm

Post by Skygazer »

(if it matters)
User avatar
Skygazer
Skygazer
any
For My Next Guest
User avatar
User avatar
Skygazer
any
For My Next Guest
For My Next Guest
Posts: 11600
Joined: June 17, 2018
Pronoun: any
Location: Baltimore

Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:37 pm

Post by Skygazer »

g o o d game
User avatar
Dunnstral
Dunnstral
he/him
Goodfellas
User avatar
User avatar
Dunnstral
he/him
Goodfellas
Goodfellas
Posts: 39786
Joined: April 2, 2016
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:40 pm

Post by Dunnstral »

I was onto all the mafia but didn't lynch any of them
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Professor Moriarty
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Goon
Goon
Posts: 310
Joined: June 13, 2019

Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:40 pm

Post by Professor Moriarty »

In post 1985, Dunnstral wrote:I was onto all the mafia but didn't lynch any of them
big mood
your reads were great
Modding hydra of Something_Smart and the worst.
"because you're the worst... and you're smart." -Haschel Cedricson
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Professor Moriarty
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Professor Moriarty
Goon
Goon
Posts: 310
Joined: June 13, 2019

Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:42 pm

Post by Professor Moriarty »

scum pt + hood pt will be released in 48 hours if no objections
(expired on 2019-07-11 14:00:00)
Modding hydra of Something_Smart and the worst.
"because you're the worst... and you're smart." -Haschel Cedricson
User avatar
Sherlock Holmes
Sherlock Holmes
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Sherlock Holmes
Goon
Goon
Posts: 139
Joined: June 13, 2019

Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:43 pm

Post by Sherlock Holmes »

GG

Thanks for running the setup, Moriarty. I think this is way less townsided on paper. Day 1 scum hood lynch really swung things toward town though. Also the vanilla cop rolled well.
User avatar
the worst
the worst
Snuggly Duckling
User avatar
User avatar
the worst
Snuggly Duckling
Snuggly Duckling
Posts: 36291
Joined: November 7, 2015
Location: pond

Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:48 pm

Post by the worst »

I think this is very close to correct balance for a MS game
Have a look at the mod pt for the full setup (SS is almost certainly an evil genius). Idk if I was scum in this situation I think I would've riddled Maria with bullets asap and claimed the n4 info
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
--
intermittent v/la until late march
User avatar
Formerfish
Formerfish
Busboy Revolutionary
User avatar
User avatar
Formerfish
Busboy Revolutionary
Busboy Revolutionary
Posts: 12855
Joined: July 1, 2013
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:48 pm

Post by Formerfish »

Sherlock, can we find a table, chit chat?
Show
"Getting lost in the details of nothing..."

"FF, you're a dick, but you don't hit below the belt. So you're a dick about finding scum, not hurting the people who are playing the game. That's acceptable dickary." MaryJoLisa

Need advice? Ask a Fish.
User avatar
the worst
the worst
Snuggly Duckling
User avatar
User avatar
the worst
Snuggly Duckling
Snuggly Duckling
Posts: 36291
Joined: November 7, 2015
Location: pond

Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:51 pm

Post by the worst »

Hey Sherlock I'm devastated you lived til endgame. If you died and I caught it I was going to send you a pm saying

Subject: Reichenbach Falls
body: "and this time I'm not going with you. *dead thread link*"
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
--
intermittent v/la until late march
User avatar
Dunnstral
Dunnstral
he/him
Goodfellas
User avatar
User avatar
Dunnstral
he/him
Goodfellas
Goodfellas
Posts: 39786
Joined: April 2, 2016
Pronoun: he/him

Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:53 pm

Post by Dunnstral »

In post 1989, the worst wrote:I think this is very close to correct balance for a MS game
Have a look at the mod pt for the full setup (SS is almost certainly an evil genius). Idk if I was scum in this situation I think I would've riddled Maria with bullets asap and claimed the n4 info
I'm wary of games where mafia don't really get to decide who they kill

Scum got to choose who to kill on night 1, and then they had to kill the vanilla cop, and then there were 3 cleared town
User avatar
Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald
She/It
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Gamma Emerald
She/It
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 69101
Joined: August 9, 2016
Pronoun: She/It
Location: Hell on Earth (aka Texas)

Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:56 pm

Post by Gamma Emerald »

In post 1979, Professor Moriarty wrote:
VC 4.2
Garmr (4)- MariaR, Sherlock Holmes, Gamma Emerald, Pine
MariaR (1)- Formerfish

Not voting (2)- Dunnstral, Garmr

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-07-17 16:00:00)

Mod notes: quack
Thank God I didn't have to actually lynch Maria, I still felt my reasons for town reading her were good but if it was between FFish and her I knew it wasn't gonna be FFish that got lynched.
<Embrace The Void>


My pronouns are she and it, please respect that. I don't mind the occasional slip.
User avatar
Sherlock Holmes
Sherlock Holmes
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Sherlock Holmes
Goon
Goon
Posts: 139
Joined: June 13, 2019

Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:58 pm

Post by Sherlock Holmes »

In post 1989, the worst wrote:I think this is very close to correct balance for a MS game
Have a look at the mod pt for the full setup (SS is almost certainly an evil genius). Idk if I was scum in this situation I think I would've riddled Maria with bullets asap and claimed the n4 info
Maybe

I can imagine the setup having bad gamefeel for scum; being all non-vanilla they are given no reason to think they should test the vanilla cop claim n1 only to the learn it generates full innos the next day. I can kinda see why scum play fell apart day 2. I do think the setup is probably balanced from a math pov, but likely demoralizing for scum.
User avatar
the worst
the worst
Snuggly Duckling
User avatar
User avatar
the worst
Snuggly Duckling
Snuggly Duckling
Posts: 36291
Joined: November 7, 2015
Location: pond

Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:58 pm

Post by the worst »

That's valid criticism. I'm surprised Maria wasn't shot regardless of claims. A scumflip in a 3p hood when there's only one hood in the game should give two very firm softclears regardless of the informed info, so I don't think them being hardcleared via informed was particularly meaningful to balance.

Outside of that the 2-shot gated investigative shot incredibly true.

It was a very tricky situation for scum, but I'm inclined to say it's equally attributable to the setup and how well town played.
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
--
intermittent v/la until late march
User avatar
Sherlock Holmes
Sherlock Holmes
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
Sherlock Holmes
Goon
Goon
Posts: 139
Joined: June 13, 2019

Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:59 pm

Post by Sherlock Holmes »

In post 1992, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1989, the worst wrote:I think this is very close to correct balance for a MS game
Have a look at the mod pt for the full setup (SS is almost certainly an evil genius). Idk if I was scum in this situation I think I would've riddled Maria with bullets asap and claimed the n4 info
I'm wary of games where mafia don't really get to decide who they kill

Scum got to choose who to kill on night 1, and then they had to kill the vanilla cop, and then there were 3 cleared town
I do think that the 'only one scum in the hood' is way better than a mason setup though
User avatar
the worst
the worst
Snuggly Duckling
User avatar
User avatar
the worst
Snuggly Duckling
Snuggly Duckling
Posts: 36291
Joined: November 7, 2015
Location: pond

Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:01 pm

Post by the worst »

In post 1994, Sherlock Holmes wrote:
In post 1989, the worst wrote:I think this is very close to correct balance for a MS game
Have a look at the mod pt for the full setup (SS is almost certainly an evil genius). Idk if I was scum in this situation I think I would've riddled Maria with bullets asap and claimed the n4 info
Maybe

I can imagine the setup having bad gamefeel for scum; being all non-vanilla they are given no reason to think they should test the vanilla cop claim n1 only to the learn it generates full innos the next day. I can kinda see why scum play fell apart day 2. I do think the setup is probably balanced from a math pov, but likely demoralizing for scum.
That's fair. I do like the fact scum (conditional on massclaim/correctly informed-hunting) have the ability to manipulate how many informed goodies the town get. :) I think Garmr being the last scum standing on d3 was about as bad as it could possibly be, though. (unless like... Nk15 had been lynched day 1...)
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
--
intermittent v/la until late march
User avatar
Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald
She/It
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Gamma Emerald
She/It
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 69101
Joined: August 9, 2016
Pronoun: She/It
Location: Hell on Earth (aka Texas)

Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:02 pm

Post by Gamma Emerald »

Btw the alternative to my opener was a D3 IC claim. I'm glad I chose what I did.
<Embrace The Void>


My pronouns are she and it, please respect that. I don't mind the occasional slip.
User avatar
the worst
the worst
Snuggly Duckling
User avatar
User avatar
the worst
Snuggly Duckling
Snuggly Duckling
Posts: 36291
Joined: November 7, 2015
Location: pond

Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:03 pm

Post by the worst »

The n2 informed of "only one scum in da hood" was also like the ultimate "no shit sherlock" (ayy) and had gamma not played a very sound towngame I wouldn't be surprised if it were more heavily criticised.
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
--
intermittent v/la until late march
Locked

Return to “Completed Mini Normal Games”