In post 1109, profii wrote:There is a side of me that thinks you must be town if you didnt know what loyal was.
Obviously you targetted me to try and stop a NK, which, ok there was no NK, but if your claim is legit either you protected my by accident.
In truth I did not know what 'Loyal' was, and I did target you because I suspected you, and knew that if a kill happened elsewhere while I jailed you then that, in my mind, would've cleared you as confirmed Town.
In post 1110, Elements wrote:
And then continued to tell people to claim which is not at all what the popcorn idea was
I can understand that. I felt that after passing the popcorn to Profii he was resisting, so I wanted results and passed it to Plank instead.
In post 1111, Elbirn wrote: In post 1086, Wake1 wrote:Zote, Elements, Salad, Elbirn, and Plank.
You all need to contribute.
You posted this at ~4AM, I was asleep, bite my big toe
Also wake does not get to decide we're mass claiming
Also also Wake Jailkept his scumread and his very next post was feigned confusion over a No kill, even though the most natural town-conclusion would be that he blocked it, ergo he lies
VOTE: Wake88
I don't believe I told everyone to mass-claim. Did I?
I did jailkeep my Scumread. And I was confused as to why there was no kill Night 3, and that was before I realized what the 'Loyal' modifier was. I neither lied nor feigned anything.
I don't like this.
In post 1115, profii wrote:Actually it's obviously Elbirn, let's not wait.
VOTE: Elbirn
He was on the looker wagon but dropped off because Saudade asked him to- Saudade probably asked because he was tunnelling wake and Elbirn couldnt give a convincing excuse.
Then there was no kill, Ali was clearly pushing looker hard and that makes him obviously town - scum can't have an obvious town so he was an obvious choice to remove, so it makes sense that he got protected. Then if you look through the ISO of Elbirn and me together, you can see I suggested I might have protected Elbirn and Elbirn was like woah dont out that you are the doctor.
Then another no kill - Elbirn probably tried to kill me and the real doctor probably just protected me
Then another no kill - I got protected by Wake basically, and I guess Elbirn really thinks Im the doctor and tried to kill me again.
I'm not saying I am the doctor, or not, I mean, I've claimed cop on day 1 before and survived a hella long time in a multiball setup so it's possible - think what you like.
You also have to consider that Elbirn said "Profii is town" pretty much as bluntly as that - I accused Elbirn of being scum straight after the N1 flip and Elbirn did the whole LAMIST thing of 'woah keep quiet doc'
So given that he knows i suspect him I guess he is trying to pocket me by just declaring me town so I leave him alone.
Finally go look at Elbirns reasons for being on the Saudade/Vortuka wagons - need I say more?
Also consider that he has obviously identified Wake as a town player that perhaps goes against the grain, at least certainly irritates me, so that is a town weakness he can exploit and he is straight on the wagon today.
VOTE: Elbirn
I really want to think you're Town; my gut is telling me otherwise. If Elbirn were to flip Town I would ask the rest of Town to focus scrutiny on you.
Being wrong doesn't necessarily make one Scum. Elbirn being wrong about Saudade doesn't make him Scum, but his reason for voting me does feel contrived. I don't know if Wimy has replace out as Scum before, or how common in general that is. The only reason I was hesitant to vote Elbirn is because in general I think replace-outs are done by Town. But I do understand Scum
could
replace out, but how likely is it? Besides that, nothing else really protects him from scrutiny.
In post 1116, alimdia wrote:
The thing is profii, so far if you look at all the claims, there is no full powered PR role that acts every night. You get what I'm saying?
By the way, the reason why I wanted a mass claim was to see if anyone was a N3 powerrole as well.
Were you referring to me?
I don't even remember the last time I was Scum. It's probably been at least 2 years.
In post 1123, UltimatePlank wrote: In post 1111, Elbirn wrote: In post 1086, Wake1 wrote:Zote, Elements, Salad, Elbirn, and Plank.
You all need to contribute.
You posted this at ~4AM, I was asleep, bite my big toe
Also wake does not get to decide we're mass claiming
Also also Wake Jailkept his scumread and his very next post was feigned confusion over a No kill, even though the most natural town-conclusion would be that he blocked it, ergo he lies
VOTE: Wake88
thing is
this post makes more sense to me than that elbirn is scum
but i think it might be overzealous and we aren't making progress in our consensus here. i don't like that Wake initially had a lynch pool of 'vorkuta/salad/elements/saudade/saladman' but now he's switched to elbirn suddenly
what happened to the other 2 wake and why is elbirn suddenly not just suspicious, but your strongest scumread?
does saladman/elements' play not bother you more? what reason do you have to scumread elbirn over those 2?
I switched to Elbirn because, as mentioned earlier, I find his reason for voting me to be contrived and out of the blue, and not in line with any of his past posts.
As for Salad and Elements (and Vorkuta/Zote) I feel they need to contribute more. I feel like it's only a handful of us actually engaging now. After Day 1 I become far more active.
In post 1125, alimdia wrote:I mean you have a modifier that says you can't use it to roleblock scum basically. And you use it on Eibirn?
Anyway, does this mean we are stopping the claim?
Looks like it.