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[profii]

Hi I reviewed this game.

When scum get something like a voyeur is it intended to be used as a defence mechanism (so to speak)

I assume so, last time I did it my scum mates were like wtf but to me it means you can confidently do what you want if you can be sure you're in the clear so it's an obvious move

[Robbnva]

Shows. If you did, you’d be a stronger player. :shrug:

Flavor usually has worse reads than me so I doubt it.

[mastina]

Hi I reviewed this game.

When scum get something like a voyeur is it intended to be used as a defence mechanism (so to speak)
I assume so, last time I did it my scum mates were like wtf but to me it means you can confidently do what you want if you can be sure you're in the clear so it's an obvious move

Scum voyeurs can have any number of reasons to be given.
It can be given to give them a safeclaim to slot into the prs of the game and seem like a role that can plausibly be town without overpowering the strength of the town.
It can be given to the scumteam to give them an insight into the nature of the power roles, to allow them to better setup spec.
It can be given to the scumteam to give them a weaker version of a rolecop, to let them more or less, with the right targets, get information which allows them to narrow in on the identity of the town's power roles.
And similar--so, yes, more defensive than anything else.

[profii]

Una, this is extremely reminiscent of the last time we were TvT.

FlippyNips wall seems solid, idk if it's the right conclusion, but I like the progression.

I don't have anything on BEF. Also there are strong anti BEF/FlippyNips associations.

I think it's Alora/Profii right now

It could be BEF.

If Alora is town, it's probably Profii/Gera.

Something's off about Profii but I can't really case them, and that's something I don't like.

TRUST YOURSELF FLAVOR DAMN IT

Profii, you’re scum! Consider yourself caught.

The only Leaf that brings the Beef!

Surrender yourself now

Ugh, i would have ended up choosing correctly in 3p lylo.

Profii was always the lynch for today.

That wasn’t even remotely where your posts were heading

you keep telling yourself that buddy.

I am pretty confident we could of bussed each other on the last day, if you holstered your vote and ame and FL took control of the day together and obviously EFN cleared FL so he would die leaving 1 of us plus you and Ame

We obviously win there

Even though Ame was fairly well town read on the most part I had no intention of suggesting we kill you because you were always a liability for town.


Town reads are just as important as scum reads and you need to work together with your town reads. FL was basically an IC and you still cant bring yourself to do it.


You need to have a word with yourself before you put any more words in this thread. I'm sorry but this is madness

[profii]

Hi I reviewed this game.

When scum get something like a voyeur is it intended to be used as a defence mechanism (so to speak)
I assume so, last time I did it my scum mates were like wtf but to me it means you can confidently do what you want if you can be sure you're in the clear so it's an obvious move

Scum voyeurs can have any number of reasons to be given.
It can be given to give them a safeclaim to slot into the prs of the game and seem like a role that can plausibly be town without overpowering the strength of the town.
It can be given to the scumteam to give them an insight into the nature of the power roles, to allow them to better setup spec.
It can be given to the scumteam to give them a weaker version of a rolecop, to let them more or less, with the right targets, get information which allows them to narrow in on the identity of the town's power roles.
And similar--so, yes, more defensive than anything else.

When the town equivalent of my PR flipped I was hella confused ha ha. Wasnt expecting that but I'm not setup expert.

The only time I've speculated well was when I claimed traffic analyst because I knew a hood existed. Still lost though

[Robbnva]

For what it's worth, I did think that the geraintm slot was obvtown btw.
I won't delve into it too much, but Robb, there are many valid criticisms to be had towards your play this game. In my opinion, I did get the sense that you more or less were a significant reason the town had so much difficulty--you were one of the largest proponents that the flipped scum was town and hard-fought the town against that lynch, and after you were shown wrong there, continued to push the same slots you had been pushing before the scum flip, which meant the town had continued difficulties.

My rationalization went out the window when germ crossed the line. In the past 6 months I’ve been personally attacked 4 times and I’m fucking sick of it.

I’m an aggressive and stubborn player. People know this. when people make personal attacks on me I’m not going to let it go, especially when site mods don’t enforce the rules.

I told town they needed to resolve me v germ before lylo. Everyone knew what was going to happen. I’m a man of my word. I even proved it when the day started. I unvoted and woke up to flavor calling me scum once again. He always comes after me so at that point I knew I had no hopes to win. It was going to be me or germ and so I saw no reason to wait for my lynch to happen. I’m going to go down voting who I think is scum.

And ame literally doing nothing last night after I voted him made me think I was right. Who as town just sits there when in possible hammer range and says nothing? Does nothing? He was lock scum to me at that point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm sorry but this is madness

[Robbnva]

I’m gonna go Rob today.

I don’t see him as town at this point.

[Robbnva]

He was looking for who my partner was but he said he was going to lynch me. I was the confirmed scum and it was profili/bef.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m an aggressive and stubborn player. People know this. when people make personal attacks on me I’m not going to let it go, especially when site mods don’t enforce the rules.

Sorry, but i gotta comment on this.
I've played with you before and know how you work. But you really can't blame other people for your anger and tunneling issues. When other people need to treat you like a ticking time bomb it really can fuck up a game. Most likely a town will scumread you when you're town and then you will go on a tangent, while scum coasts. You just need to learn to don't take things too personal and if the other party is legitimately being a dick, just ignore them and raise yourself above it. Don't lover yourself down to the level of toxic arguing every time.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum!Profii is really cute.
Town!Flavour is weird.

Anyway, fun game to read. GG scum.

[profii]

I dont know how to take that

[Flavor Leaf]

Ugh, i would have ended up choosing correctly in 3p lylo.

Profii was always the lynch for today.

That wasn’t even remotely where your posts were heading

Boy everytime you and I spoke directly I ended up town reading you.

Profii was lock scum

[Flavor Leaf]

I literally said things like that every single day phase and flip flopped away. I spent the majority of the game correctly town reading you, and it wasn’t until your endgame lack of doing anything that changed it

[Flavor Leaf]

I even worked with your Gera read multiple times throughout the game, and then I even went multiple days saying you guys were probably TvT, but I went through the motions and checked every possible scenario.

Una vs FL was the TvT being fueled by scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I might have mislynched on the final day still due to not figuring out correctly BEF/Rob, but I likely wasn’t making it there.

[Robbnva]

If a person breaks site rules I unfortunately can’t rise above it. Especially when site mods don’t enforce the rules. That’s the bigger issue at hand but nothing will be done about that.

When somebody thinks you should be stabbed irl, there’s no way I can rise above it. I can’t ignore that and I certainly can’t accept that it was just a joke about Julius Caesar (like cmon that’s the lamest excuse). I’m not going to replace out cause I did nothing wrong so my alternative is to lynch him, especially since I already scum read him.

I was fine before that happened. I didn’t think my play was remotely aggressive as how I have played in the past. Believe it or not I really am trying to stop tunneling but in this situation I had no choice.

If I didn’t vote ame, I probably would have voted flavor. I wasn’t sold that he was clear.

[Flavor Leaf]

Shows. If you did, you’d be a stronger player. :shrug:

Flavor usually has worse reads than me so I doubt it.

This being my only town loss this year definitely shows that

[Flavor Leaf]

That’s on you not sold I wasn’t clear. FlippyNips obviously checked me

[Robbnva]

Ugh, i would have ended up choosing correctly in 3p lylo.

Profii was always the lynch for today.

That wasn’t even remotely where your posts were heading

Boy everytime you and I spoke directly I ended up town reading you.

Profii was lock scum

Dude stop. Every game we play you scum read me. You basically said I was the lynch today.

[Flavor Leaf]

I actually don’t think you were aggressive, I just think your play itself was poor this game based on you doing essentially less work than FlippyNips, especially in the later half of the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ugh, i would have ended up choosing correctly in 3p lylo.

Profii was always the lynch for today.

That wasn’t even remotely where your posts were heading

Boy everytime you and I spoke directly I ended up town reading you.

Profii was lock scum

Dude stop. Every game we play you scum read me. You basically said I was the lynch today.

I scum read literally everyone every game. Get over that

I’ve never mislynched you as town, and that speaks volumes.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also specifically town read you for 3.5+ days of this game

[Robbnva]

I literally said things like that every single day phase and flip flopped away. I spent the majority of the game correctly town reading you, and it wasn’t until your endgame lack of doing anything that changed it

Shows. If you did, you’d be a stronger player. :shrug:

Flavor usually has worse reads than me so I doubt it.

This being my only town loss this year definitely shows that

You’re good at riding the cat tails of others.

Wasn’t it this game you claimed to lynch all the scum and bob or someone set you straight?


You hop on wagons and then take credit for lynching scum. I’ve literally seen you do that 20+ times.

[Flavor Leaf]

You could have not held the personal tunnel against Gera, who during my reread last night was the most obv town who ever did town, as was Ame, who was a little puppy dog in this last Day.