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1) . Instant modkill, end of conversation.

2) . This includes, “NameofPlayer is the king!” or “Everyone claim who they think is king.” There are still grey areas, but not as many as if there were no rule in place. Instant modkill, end of conversation. Mod discretion here, so please don’t push it. I really don’t want this to be an issue, so please don’t make the focus of the game WIFOM relating to the identity of the king.

3) Any attack by the assassin MUST be made by PM to me. If the assassin is lynched, they may still send it by PM. Remember that the assassin wins even if he kills the king after being lynched.




This game is nightless, and there is no mafia group. Instead, there is one assassin, whose sole win condition is to kill the king using a suicide attack. There are seven guards who all know the identity of the king. And then, of course, there is the king.

Assassin:

Aegor wrote:You are the assassin. You have infiltrated the royal guard and are charged with killing the king. That is your sole win condition: Victory is yours when the king is dead. At any point during the game (including immediately after your lynch), you may PM me the name of a player whom you wish to kill in a suicide attack. This attack will kill you and end the game. You win when the king is dead, regardless of whether you are alive.

King:

Aegor wrote:You are the king. You know that everyone else is not the king. There is an assassin, however, who is trying to kill you. Your goal is not to let that happen. You win when the assassin is dead and has used his kill and you still live.

Guard:

Aegor wrote:You are a guard, charged to protect King ________. Your job would be too easy if there weren’t an assassin trying to eliminate your poor king. You don’t want that to happen, of course. You’d be out of a job. You win when the assassin is dead and has used his kill and the king is still alive.

(inspired by Vel-Rahn Koon’s)


1) NO communication of ANY kind at ANY time with other players outside of the thread regarding the game.
2) You may not quote anything in a mod PM verbatim (but you can summarize, e.g. “It said I’m a townie!”), or even pretend to do so – see setup-specific rules for more.
3) I always accept PMs regarding game questions from players. Do not hesitate to PM me about any questions you have.


1) A majority of votes is required to lynch. Once the majority is reached, the lynch occurs and no further (un/)votes will be considered.
2) Once you are dead, you are dead. The end. Corpses can’t talk, or even say “Bah!” so you can’t either. After someone is lynched, the game enters “twilight” until I post the lynch scene. All players may talk except the unfortunate person who was lynched.
3) The vote format is: . Votes not in this format will not be counted. You may abbreviate players’ names appropriately. Unvoting follows a similar format: (the name is optional, but preferred). You must unvote before voting, or the vote won’t count.
4) The players can decide not to lynch during the day. To do this, a majority of players need to . You cannot be voting for No Lynch and a player at the same time.
5) If discussion begins to lag significantly, I will impose a deadline. I will give you plenty of notice, and prolong it as necessary if replacements come in. These will probably be negotiable. If a lynch (requiring the normal number of votes) has not occurred at the deadline, half of the votes normally required to lynch (rounded up) will be enough to lynch someone at deadline.


1) This game is obviously a commitment.
2) If a player doesn’t post for more than two days, they will get prodded. I can’t always keep track of everyone, so do not hesitate to request a prod on someone. Please do not try to handle them yourselves, ask me to prod the inactive player.
3) A prodded player must post within the day after the prod otherwise I will replace him (for a total of three days without posting). I really never want to do this, so please be considerate and let everyone know if/when you will be gone. If you have to be prodded three times, you don’t get any more chances. The next time one is necessary you get replaced.
4) If there is a serious infraction of these rules, of the site rules, or of the integrity and spirit of the game, I reserve the right to replace someone. Again, I would rather never do this.


1) Please right in black font . You may bold, italicize, underline, increase size, etc., but all text should be black (read: NOT invisible either).
2) I will not edit posts as a general rule. However, if tags need to be fixed and the player requests that I fix them (I will take “Oh, crap! The tags!” as a request,) I will (with a note of it. I will NOT edit posts to answer questions or to include vote counts; these will come in separate posts.
3) Please everything to which you want me to pay special attention. I will probably be reading the entire game, but for good measure bold mod requests or questions.
4) I will answer any questions concerning game mechanics in-thread, although if sent by PM the author will remain anonymous. The MafiaWiki is very good for answering questions about different roles, but do not hesitate to ask me either.


This game is supposed to be FUN! Please respect other players, the game, and myself. Sarcasm is passable, outright insulting and excessive ridicule is not. Please treat players as you would people in real life. You probably wouldn’t scream insults at your friends or your teachers, so don’t do it here. We all make mistakes, so forgive them.

The game will start when all players have confirmed. There is NO discussion at all until then.

Also, please remember to let me know if you will be gone for more than two days. It affects deadlines (I hope it doesn't matter though) and obviously prods/replacement. If you're gone for three days, no problem. But you have to let me know.

Also, PLEASE PLEASE read setup-specific rules, they are crucial to this game. PM me if you have any questions, so I can address those before the game begins.

I'm giving dalt54321 until end of Tuesday (i.e., when I wake up on Monday). I'm really anxious to get the game rolling (as I hope you are), but it was the weekend when I sent out PMs. I think Saturday, Sunday, and over two weekdays is a reasonable time.

All players have confirmed, and has been replaced by . Thank you very much for replacing, as the game can now start.

Please remember the rules about prods/replacement. I hope that activity isn't an issue, but be aware that there is some standard for this game.

Everyone understand the setup-specific rules? Good! Let us begin...

You'd have to be Crazy to try and kill the king.

woohoo!

First post obvscum!

Hate to do this right away, but I'll be v/la for a few days. I will be back Sunday, and I should be able to post a couple times between now and then, but just wanted to let y'all know.

Just so everyone knows how this works:

No discussion is optimal. Discussion strongly favors the uninformed group in a game, in this case the assassin.

If someone votes the king, do not vote that player automatically in response. Doing so is the best way to lose the game.

If at any point someone has more then 1 vote, they are to be policy lynched as they more or less can NOT be the king.

If no one has more then 1 vote, vote anyone you want, and I mean anyone. That includes the king.

Also, don't be an idiot. Remember the following rule.

2) NO OUTRIGHT CLAIMS ABOUT THE KING. This includes, “NameofPlayer is the king!” or “Everyone claim who they think is king.” There are still grey areas, but not as many as if there were no rule in place. Instant modkill, end of conversation. Mod discretion here, so please don’t push it. I really don’t want this to be an issue, so please don’t make the focus of the game WIFOM relating to the identity of the king.

cuz I am sick of seeing him in my games

Countervote hm?

armlx wrote:If at any point someone has more then 1 vote, they are to be policy lynched as they more or less can NOT be the king.

Eh, I don't see why the king can't ever have votes.

because I can.

because you're not in 617 anymore and I'm still suffering.

(Real reason for this vote, ignoring armlx's rule, which does sound reasonable. Would like to hear more on that Ceph.)

so he won't feel left out.

Eh, I don't see why the king can't ever have two votes.

You make a point. 3 is a better cut off to allow townspeople to vote the king without real fear of having to back out of a policy lynch.

Pff, let's not tell the assassin how we're going to WIFOM them.

Crazy wrote:Pff, let's not tell the assassin how we're going to WIFOM them.

Vote: armlx

By admitting that we could WIFOM them, it makes them much more paranoid then if we didn't admit it.

EBWODP: Just to clarify, theory questions/discussion are ok as long as it does not cross into discussion of anyone in the game.

I actually just mean in context of optimal play, not rules, but that is true as well.

armlx wrote:EBWODP: Just to clarify, theory questions/discussion are ok as long as it does not cross into discussion of anyone in the game.

This confuses me. How are we to find the assassin if, according to optimal play, all we do is talk theory?

Now, if you look at the last AITP game, and it's reset, it shows that random speedlynching is the optimal strategy here. It is good that we don't want to give the assassin any information, but the more guards we kill before we hit the assassin, the greater chance the assassin has of killing the king on his vengeful kill.

In the last AITP game, the town did not lose because they gave out too much information. They lost because they managed to lynch everybody except the assassin and the king.

In the reset of it, the town nailed the assassin Day 2, because they noticed the scum-tells he dropped, not because he was a random candidate for a lynch.

Policy lynching is bad in this game, because it tells the assassin exactly what we're doing.

Crazy, look at the large AITP game for the counter example. People were idiots and lost the game. If we start talking, someone is going to be an idiot.

What your are asking is to give the uninformed group more info, which is bad. Rolling the dice is a much more favored way to win, though there is not mathematic way to prove that scum hunting is less helpful then people being dumb is detrimental.

Armlx, making a no discussion policy won't make idiots stop being idiots. In the game you mentioned, the town was still able to spill out who the Kings were even though JDodge had that strict lynch-lynch-lynch policy set in place.

The problem we need to avoid is explaining our votes. We have to trust our own judgment, and the rest of the town to see what we see. If we tell the scum what he did wrong, then that'll help him very much in identifying the king. That's how the scum won the large game.