Mini 50 (Newer York Confidential) Game Over!

[Fishbulb]

I'm not sure what else to go on here. Fishbulb didn't do anything suspicious last night,(per the paper) and there was no mafia kill last night. Hmmm... How 'bout it Neighbor?

Yes, it was just a coincidence, trust me. I did the same thing both nights. I wonder if it might be worth it to go after JazzRed? It might answer some more questions.

[CoolBot]

I'd like to have the JazzRed question cleared up, too. But who's to say we'd learn anything by lynching him? If he is a mason, and the group is called mafia, it stands to reason that all we'd be told on his death is that he's Carnegie Mafia. If it's a flase claim, it's one of the better I've seen.

I'd really like a claim for FF, too. If there isn't one in 24 hours from this post, I'll probably vote him.

[Riven]

Unofficial

Vote Count: FinalFear (3):

Fishbulb, JazzRed, Riven

[FinalFear]

roleclaim time then

You are Chief Goodman, head of the Gotham police force.

This city is rotten to the core. Half your citizens are crooks and mafia, the
other half are nebishes, corrupt as the rest.

But you have found a way to fix this.

Kill all the crooks, (you get one night kill) and make the city safe again.

Basically, I'm a vigilante.

[Riven]

FinalFear: Have you read the rules?

* Don't quote any PMs from me.

[gslamm]

Ok letting the quoting thing slide for now, although that is a MAJOR rules breach. Your role name is cop but your a vigilante? So you don't get investigation results or such? That sort of makes sense seeing as we have two dead cops already.

I strongly suggest you NOT use your night kill until we have an agreed upon target. I've seen too many vig's killing townies.

I'd rather have more discusion, and have Jasonpingpong replaced if he's not going to play. I hate repeating day one tactics but do think we should turn our attention elsewhere. Suggestions?

[mneme]

Back from Mexico (not that it ever cut me off for -too- long).

If Jasonpingpong does not join the game soon, he -will- be replaced.

[Fishbulb]

Unvote: FinalFear

I'm sure I don't need to reiterate what others have said, but just in case: Read the rules!

Anyway, I'm not sure where to look now. I guess we just need to wait to see what happens with Jasonpingpong. The biggest problem with newbies, is that you can't tell if they are lurking because they are scum, or just not here.

[Night Stalker]

Final Fear - have you used your ability (or tried to) yet?

[FinalFear]

Damn. Sorry, i'm an idiot.

And, no, I haven't tried to use it i didn't want to mess anything up.

[JazzRed]

Arg, this is a sticky situation, that it is. We really shouldn't lynch a vig but I don't know that we have anything else to go on .... *sigh*...

Unvote: FinalFear

. He's either really good at faking a role or really is the vig. I suggest using your kill tonight FinalFear, because my guess is that if you really are the vig, the mafia will kill you. Then again, what do I know?

Seeing as how this day needs to get going, anyone have any other ideas?

[mneme]

Having examined the game and the current state, I've decided that the "no quoting the mod" rule is unnecessary (and even actively harmful) to this particular game, and so have (irrespecitve of whether there have been any violations of this rule) removed it retroactively.

[gslamm]

In the interest of moving things along a little:

I've gone over the last 5 pages again and have an uneasy feeling about Coolbot. Nothing definate and nothing I can point to and say "Hmm this looks scummy."

Vote:Coolbot

If anyone wants to defend him I'll move on to the next unknown. Really just shameless bandwagoning to get more discussion going. Feel free to start your own bandwagons or join this one...

FF: Who should we vig kill tonight? I still think thats a bad move. Shooting in the dark just to keep from losing a bullet is more likely to get a townie killed.

[CoolBot]

Does anyone think it'd be worth while to go after JazzRed? On one hand, if he's a mason, his lynching probably won't prove it. On the other, it's an odd role to claim. If he's lying, an investigator may still get mafia from him, thus negating a good chance in catching him. Right now, I think we'd to good if we put pressure on him.

vote: JazzRed

[Riven]

Does anyone think it'd be worth while to go after JazzRed? On one hand, if he's a mason, his lynching probably won't prove it. On the other, it's an odd role to claim. If he's lying, an investigator may still get mafia from him, thus negating a good chance in catching him. Right now, I think we'd to good if we put pressure on him.

We already pressured him earlier in the game. Perhaps if we were to pressure a claim from a few other people it will help to move things along.

UnVote: FinalFear
FOS: FinalFear

, Everyone just unvoted you on the basis that that was and actual quote from a PM, however it still could have been faked.

Vote: Coolbot

, I got a funny feeling about you :p

FOS: Night Stalker

, For the name really, nothing else

[gslamm]

FF: Who should we vig kill tonight? I still think thats a bad move. Shooting in the dark just to keep from losing a bullet is more likely to get a townie killed.

Ooops that was ment to be directed at

JazzRed

since I had just said :

I strongly suggest you NOT use your night kill until we have an agreed upon target. I've seen too many vig's killing townies.

Everyone: Don't get carried away with the Coolbot mini-wagon. Lets put some pressure on and see what he has to say.

[JazzRed]

FF: Who should we vig kill tonight? I still think thats a bad move. Shooting in the dark just to keep from losing a bullet is more likely to get a townie killed.

That's like saying we should all vote no lynch because our chances of killing a townie are higher than killing a member of a mafia. This is not to say the kill should be completely random, just that I think we should use it while we can.

[gslamm]

Point taken. That still leaves the question who? Heck, we're still trying to figure out who to lynch.

I was not suggesting he never use it, and I understand he

may

be a target tonight.

Consider this: We have one or two kills tonight and add the vig kill. Suddenly were down to 5 or 6 players left. At least 2, maybe 3 are evil. How is that going to end?

This is very different from advocating no lynch.

Coolbot: Feel like volunteering some info? or are you waiting for a third vote?

[FinalFear]

I won't use my night kill. That's the reason I haven't used it before. I don't want to mess anything up because of a hunch.

[CoolBot]

What info should I give up? Are you saying I should claim just because two people are voting me on with little basis?

I want someone to back up JazzRed on his claim. It's an odd one, and I'd feel better if one of his partners where willing risk themselves. My vote on him is an effort to encourage that to happen.

[gslamm]

I was not suggesting a claim. or at least not a full claim.

Again I don't think pressuring Jazzred is going to get us anything we haven't already heard.

Who else should we ask to hear from? If no one steps up or points at another suspect I'll volunteer a little tidbit tonight when I get back from work.

My name is Freindly and Fishbulbs name is Neighbor. Also I confirm FinalFears name is Goodman.

[Fishbulb]

Why did you do that, gslamm? No one was asking us to role claim...

I'm leaning more towards Riven. Anyone with me?

[Riven]

I want someone to back up JazzRed on his claim. It's an odd one, and I'd feel better if one of his partners where willing risk themselves. My vote on him is an effort to encourage that to happen.

Yes i'd like for someone to confirm JazzRed's claim, as i'm still quite bothered about a mason group being labeled mafia!

[Someone]

Do u guys need a replacment? Cuz if u do, im in. And I want to know before I take my name off the mini waiting list.

[mneme]

Someone will be replacing Jasonpingpong