Mini 50 (Newer York Confidential) Game Over!

[JazzRed]

PBug - I was expecting nothing less from you to be honest.

FinalFear - You finally post, voting for me, claiming it to be random. This right after rite says he'll jump on the bandwagon against either myself or PBuG. If PBuG turns out to be evil, I think you may be to. But I'm not even going to FOS you, that post is just a

little

suspicious. (Also, I'm not holding any of my thoughts in any more, I've resigned to my fate - I'll be dead in the morning).

rite - Although 3 votes may not be a bandwagon, I'd really like it if you voted for PBuG and turned it into one As for evidence - think about this:

Let's assume I'm scum. Why would I reveal myself just to kill a townie? A mafia (evil) mafia member for a townie is hardly advantageous for us.

Now let's assume I'm pro-town. I see the oppourtunity to sacrifice myself to get a (evil) mafia member. Of course I'm going to take that opportunity. I am after all for the towns survival.

[Riven]

I'm also able to confirm that there are two mafia groups, but thats all the info i have on them.

My win conition says my goal is to stop the muderers, which I think mean the murderers must be dead.

AND

Hey, I've changed my mind. I'm not true scum I think, but I know there are some true scum. JazzRed isn't true scum either.

both of are win conditions are the town winning.

Hmm thats two different winning conditions...?

Oh, and what I do is protect people from the Mafia killings. That means there is no way I am true scum.

Maybe not

true

scum, but you are still scum... or at least a member of a mafia group.

UnVote: Viarostultega, Vote: PBuG

[TBuG]

Those are the same conditions, the town winning is the murderers being dead, unless this whole thing is twisted and the town are the real murderers... I just confused myself more, didn't I?

[TBuG]

Maybe not

true

scum, but you are still scum... or at least a member of a mafia group.

UnVote: Viarostultega, Vote: PBuG

Well, same with JazzRed...

[JazzRed]

Well, same with JazzRed...

Fair enough, I am the member of a "mafia" group but, as I've said, it's a mason group by another name. Besides, you're the one who is unsure about what you're mafia really does. Although you

may

not have anything with your mafia's kills, you are nonetheless, a member of a mafia I

KNOW

kills.

[Riven]

Well, same with JazzRed...

This is also true, but i do tend to believe him more than you atm, but sill i should

FOS: JazzRed

[JazzRed]

Yawn, even though it's not quite 9 p.m. here, I'm going to bed. I have to get up too early in the morning. It's the first day of school! Oh Joy I won't be on until late tomorrow... Anyways, I don't want the day to end before I say a few things:

I'll probably get killed during the night, so if the Doc wouldn't mind protecting me, it'd be much appreciated!

Make a decision, and lynch PBuG!

Also, in case I do die, here's who I suspect...

Most suspicious: PBuG - Derf! Why else would I be trying so hard for him to be lynched

Suspicious: FinalFear - Comes, posts a "random" vote against me, seems mafia like. After all, PBuG had voted for me and rite said he would join a bandwagon against who ever, so if PBuG is scum I'd bet so is FinalFear.

The only other people I have the slightest suspicion of: rite (because of that one post) and Fishbulb (Because he was eager not to cause conflict over the killings (take a look at the first page description of the killings and you can make up your mind about who did what)). I wouldn't vote for either of them but hey, if I die, at least you'll know everything I was thinking...

Everyone Else I have no suspicion of whatsoever. To wrap this up: lynch PBuG please and Doc protect me during the night if ya can.

[Fishbulb]

Fishbulb (Because he was eager not to cause conflict over the killings

Huh? First of all, how would that make me scum. Second, how on earth could you say that I was "eager not to cause conflict"? That seems like an oxymoron, to me. Besides, I certainly didn't say anything about conflict, just to not listen to you. Since I am not a member of either mafia, I wouldn't have the inside information that you had to make that kind of assumptions. Granted, you knew something other's didn't (which we now know), but at the time of posting, it just looked like you pulled those "answers" out of thin air. I didn't want everyone to just join in; I wanted everyone to think for themselves. How that makes me evil, I have no idea.

In fact, up until your last post, I was going to join you on this (PBuG just didn't seem right to me), but why throw around a bunch of random suspicions? In this first day, there isn't enough to go on to say someone is suspicious. I am thinking we should go for those staying quiet who have had no comment on the whole mafia vs. mafia thing (FinalFear, rite, viarstultega). But I know that probably won't be the popular choice.

I have the strangest feeling both you and PBuG are telling the truth. I look at it this way. Each of your stories are strange enough that if one is true, the other one is likely to be true, as well. Why waste an innocent if it can be avoided? We got all the info on PBuG and JazzRed. It will all be verified through the coming nights and days. I say, go for the lurkers. Has Viarstultega even posted?

[TBuG]

Everyone Else I have no suspicion of whatsoever. To wrap this up: lynch PBuG please and Doc protect me during the night if ya can.

I'm the doctor figure though.

[Riven]

I'm the doctor figure though.

AND

I'm the Symphony Mafia Bodyguard. I can protect one person each

day

.

Inconsistancies.. a pro-town doc does the protection during the NIGHT, but a Symphony Mafia Bodyguard.. who would they protect during the

day

as you put it? a mafia member from being lynched perhaps?

Very wishy-washy stuff PBuG

On a similar note.. i'm still not sure why a

Mason

group would be labeled a

Mafia Family

[TBuG]

I'm the doctor figure though.

AND

I'm the Symphony Mafia Bodyguard. I can protect one person each

day

.

Inconsistancies.. a pro-town doc does the protection during the NIGHT, but a Symphony Mafia Bodyguard.. who would they protect during the

day

as you put it? a mafia member from being lynched perhaps?

Very wishy-washy stuff PBuG

On a similar note.. i'm still not sure why a

Mason

group would be labeled a

Mafia Family

No, I mis-phrased it... I do the same as the pro-town doctor.

[gslamm]

I just got home from work and caught up with whats been said.

Since no one is scummier than anyone else, I'd like to retain my vote on gslamm. If you question my reasonings, see my first post.

He's Ugly.

If you ever decide to jump out of a plane let me know. I'll make sure you get some extra freefall time.

Okay, from what I understand,

I'm part of the mafia

but I'm not really mafia.

Geez how easy does it get?

Fair enough, I am the member of a "mafia" group but, as I've said, it's a mason group by another name.

We have two mafia groups. One of which has a bodyguard (Daytime Martyr?) and either a SK or other killer type (if the other Mafia doesn't kill). This just seems far too overloaded against us. Even if there is no SK and both mafias did have a night kill it would be almost unbalanced.

I don't want to end this post before I

Fos:FinalFear

Your one post so far sounds awfully contrived.

[JazzRed]

Fishbulb, I understand. I'm just pointing out every little though I've had. I really don't think your evil or anything - I'm just saying... I didn't even FOS you...

Also, like I've said. I seriously think that I'll be dead via lynch or other death by the morning. Why bother to not say anything? Perhaps I'm pessimistic about all this, but I'm the only one who's come forward and said "I know something everyone else doesn't". I gotta go know, I see what's happening here later.

[Fishbulb]

Hmpf... No comments on the main point of my post. Here, I'll quote the meaningful part, maybe most of you were just daunted at the length of the whole post.

I have the strangest feeling both [JazzRed] and PBuG are telling the truth. I look at it this way. Each of your stories are strange enough that if one is true, the other one is likely to be true, as well. Why waste an innocent if it can be avoided? We got all the info on PBuG and JazzRed. It will all be verified through the coming nights and days. I say, go for the lurkers. Has Viarstultega even posted?

So, any one have anything to say about that?

If it's either PBuG or JazzRed, however, I think I will still vote for PBuG.

[TBuG]

Actually, I think we do need to lynch Viarostultega. He hasn't posted in here once, which is OBVIOUSLY lurking.

Unvote: JazzRed

Vote: Viarostultega

If there are any living cops, could they inform us on their investigations?

[mneme]

This is your moderator.

Note that I'm going on vacation from tomorrow morning to next Tuesday, and -probably- won't have net access during that period.

Therefore, it is quite likely that if Newer York reaches a lynch point before I return, that it will have an extended twilight.

(Sorry about this, but there it is; consider this an anti-deadline

[Fishbulb]

If there are any living cops, could they inform us on their investigations?

No! Maybe you are new, so I'll give you a break, but that is not a good idea. First of all, the last thing we want is the bad guys knowing who the cops are (if there are any left). And if a cop got information useful for this first day, there would already be hinting... but if we miss the hint, it is up to the cop to decide if they want to tell everyone since it might be a good idea to wait and see what they find in the next night or so. Cops can be paranoid, insane, and many other messed up things that aren't known until a few more investigations are done.

Vote: Viarostultega

Come on out and join in.

[TBuG]

Unofficial Vote Count:

PBuG: 4 (CoolBot, JazzRed, gslamm, Riven)
JazzRed: 1 (FinalFear)
gslamm: 1 (rite)
Viarostultega: 2 (PBuG, Fishbulb)

No Lynch: 1 (jasonpingpong)

Haven't voted: Viarostultega

6 to lynch?

[mneme]

6 to Lynch.

[TBuG]

'kay.

That means I'm safe for now

[gslamm]

Lurking aint cool, but if Viarostultega aint playing lets get them replaced.

There are others here whose participation is weak. They are playing but not saying much or much of importance anyway.

[Fishbulb]

What about it mod? Reminder to Viaros? Wait for a replacement? Or continue on?

[rite]

vote: PBuG

This day has gone far enough, and way too much information has been revealed.

[Dragon Phoenix]

mneme, you should have mod powers now.

[jasonpingpong]

Sorry to put the nail in the coffin but later pbug.

Untote

Vote: pbug

God rest his evil soul....hopefully