Open 101 - Two of Four - Game over before 712

[The Central Scrutinizer]

This is just ludicrous when you put it next to Open 104... that game went 17 pages in under two days.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

So... anyone else interested in conversing about something completely non-game related in an effort to pad their post count in this game?

[Raging Rabbit]

Biohazard failed to pick up his prod, I'll get to work on finding a replacement.

[ThAdmiral]

@ tcs: alrighty.

Where is that avatar from?


Also (and this is to everyone) In the name of more activity I think we should choose one of the plans floating around and then vote on whether we want t do it or not. That should get everybody at least saying "yes" or "no" for a few posts and then we will have something to work towards.

To be honest I don't really understand the current plans being out forward so can someone explain them again?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

@ tcs: alrighty.

Where is that avatar from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbRom1Rz8OA

Also (and this is to everyone) In the name of more activity I think we should choose one of the plans floating around and then vote on whether we want t do it or not. That should get everybody at least saying "yes" or "no" for a few posts and then we will have something to work towards.

To be honest I don't really understand the current plans being out forward so can someone explain them again?

YAUS

[veerus]

There's no real plan due to a severe lack of participation.

Since roles are randomly distributed, it is possible that a miller may exist without a cop. I have decided that ThAdmiral's suggestion of having a miller claim is a null-tell since as mafia, he'd already know who the townies are so the miller claim request would seem to bring too much attention too early on. Therefore,

unvote

.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

There's no real plan due to a severe lack of participation.

Since roles are randomly distributed, it is possible that a miller may exist without a cop. I have decided that ThAdmiral's suggestion of having a miller claim is a null-tell since as mafia, he'd already know who the townies are so the miller claim request would seem to bring too much attention too early on. Therefore,

unvote

.

I accept and endorse this line of reasoning.

[ThAdmiral]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbRom1Rz8OA

Absolutely hilarious!

Everybody do yourselves a favor and watch this!!!

Alright since no one else has any plans I'll suggest one. We lynch a lurker today, and then the miller (if any) claims tomorrow.

We'll deal with whatever happens/doesn't happen if/when it does/does not.





Or someone could come up with a better plan.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

If we do have a miller claim, it should be right at the beginning of the day, before anyone can claim cop.

[Raging Rabbit]

ZazieR relaces Biohazard, effective immediately.

[ZazieR]

Don't worry RR. My exams are somewhere around May. I should be able to post frequently. That's after I have finished my stuff at GTKAS.
Then my read will come and I'll post my thoughts.

[ZazieR]

I'm writing this while I'm reading. Which means it's possible that I ask something that has been explained already. I hope you don't mind.

Post 16
TCS, how could this help? Any reason why only after 7 days?

Post 23
I don't like TA's explanation. Yes, it's perhaps the RVS, but still. The way how you said it, gives me the feeling that you don't want the attention.

Post 24
I agree. If there's a miller, claim. If there's a cop, this is for the best. If the cop would get a guilty on someone, that player can't use the 'excuse' of being a miller.
And there's something else as well, which I don't want to reveal yet if you don't mind. But if there's a miller, I see it as better to come out and tell us.

Post 37
I really would like to know why day 2?

Post 41

One of the claim-related thoughts that's been going through my mind is that it might be better on Day 1 to have a player who reaches L-1 claim either "townie or "not townie" rather than claiming a specific role.

Don't agree with this. With this scum can easily soft-claim a powerrole, because which of the four will this not townie be?
It gives us a shot in the dark. I'll try to see if there's a different way some other time.

I'll look at post 42 the next time more.

I'd really like to hear why TCS selfvoted to put himself at L-2

TCS, you know why that game went fast. I rather have a slow game than a game like that.

I don't like Veerus line of reasoning (great to see you again) in post 55. I can actually see a reason why scum would like to know if there's a miller.

Post 57
Lurkerhunting. Seriously. We really need to discuss somethings before coming up with a plan like this.

I'll post my thoughts tomorrow more.

[ThAdmiral]

Post 57
Lurkerhunting. Seriously. We really need to discuss somethings before coming up with a plan like this.

I know. But basically it was either this or nothing until you came along.

[veerus]

I don't like Veerus line of reasoning (great to see you again) in post 55. I can actually see a reason why scum would like to know if there's a miller.

Why? Scum wouldn't care.. we're all townies and we all need to die.

Hopefully Zazier will bring some discussion to the thread because unless something comes up, I'm totally for lynching a lurker.. This game is going nowhere fast.

mod: who have you prodded recently?

(this will give us a list of our lurker targets)

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Dear Zazier,

Because I can. Because I can... and... yeah, I'm not overly enamored of that game either. It may make 400 pages before it's all said and done.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Love,
TCS

[Raging Rabbit]

Prodding Ripley, Kaiveran and SilverPhoenix, all of which haven't posted in over 3 days.

[Kaiveran]

Hi, guys, I've been swamped by work over the past few days, will try to be active.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

unvote, vote:veerus

[Ripley]

I'm still here, though the lack of interest in the game is pretty discouraging. I've given my thoughts on both miller claim strategies, have suggested a claim strategy of my own that hardly anybody replied to, and am at a loss to know where to go from here. If people don't want to post, and continue to post as little as possible, it's just going to be another dreadful game dragging its sorry corpse along with prods and threats, and I'm already in one of those.

The one thing that caught my eye since my last post was this from veerus:

Hopefully Zazier will bring some discussion to the thread because unless something comes up, I'm totally for lynching a lurker.. This game is going nowhere fast.

mod: who have you prodded recently?

(this will give us a list of our lurker targets)

What is your definition of a "lurker" that you're totally up for lynching? Do you mean someone who isn't posting at all? In that case isn't it sensible to assume they've dropped out and get them replaced? Why do you need to enlist the help of the mod in determining your targets? In a game of this length it's hardly a chore to scroll up and see who hasn't posted. Do you think having people named by the mod would legitimize your tactic? Do you care if a player has been prodded and if so why? Would you be more, or less, enthusiastic about lynching a player who had been prodded?

Zazier, you said on Monday you'd post more thoughts tomorrow. What happened to those?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

In this game, it would be kind of silly to lynch all lurkers... essentially we'd just be picking people at random and lynching them... because this game has three pages in like two weeks. Everyone is lurking.

I'm going to

unvote

because I don't actually want to see the day end so quickly... but I did want at least

someone

to cry about Lynch -1 on page three.

So... what the fuck?

[Ripley]

I don't care if veerus was on L-1. For one thing I think he's the scummiest player. Given the funeral pace of the game so far, I'm all in favor of actions that might stir some activity. We have a deadline just 11 days away. Maybe veerus might up his game, or claim, and things would start to happen.

Something

needs to happen.

[ZazieR]

First of all, I was hoping that every player would have posted now. I waited as I saw SP online, hoping that he would contribute something as I asked some stuff to him. Second is that there are other games as well, waiting for me to contribute.

But I have been thinking about this game. The main problem are the roles. We have no idea which roles we could have. And that can lead to some problems later on. If you're wondering why, scum can use them against us.
We know that there are two powerroles. But we don't know which. This time, there are 4 possible powerroles, while in NG there are only 2. We are also with two players less, which means that two mislynches will probably mean the end. And that's where the problem is. What happens if we don't lynch scum today.

The unknown powerroles will be too much a problem if we don't lynch scum today. If needed I can show the different possibilities what could happen.
That's why I actually want to have the two powerroles claim. That way if there are only two claims, we have two confirmed innocents today, which could help us finding the 2 scum. If 3 players claim, we know that there's a liar and that one of the scum is one of the unclaimed players.
However, instead of claiming their role, it's better to do it like Ripley said. Not to claim your actual role, but instead claiming powerrole. That way the scum don't know which of the claims has which powerrole.

Your thoughts about this? Also, I am soon (30-40 minutes) offline so if you have any questions about this, it will probably have to wait till tomorrow.

[veerus]

The game has 7 players and only 4 are contributing... somewhat. Which means the other 3 aren't even trying. My definition of a lurker is someone who has barely made any posts and none recently. My request for the mod was two-fold: to get some prods out and to then vote the person who was the first to reply to the prod. My reasoning is that such a player is still on the board a lot but is trying to post as little as possible here to avoid any hint of suspicion that would increase the speed in such a slow-paced game. Therefore...

unvote; vote: Kaiveran

FOS: SilverPhoenix

for apparently being on the board (according to Zazier) and not posting.

The "powerrole" claim may have some sense.. I will think on it and post later.

[ThAdmiral]

I've given my thoughts on both miller claim strategies, have suggested a claim strategy of my own that hardly anybody replied to

I think the problem was I didn't understand your strategy. Could you explain it again?

My reasoning is that such a player is still on the board a lot but is trying to post as little as possible here to avoid any hint of suspicion that would increase the speed in such a slow-paced game. Therefore...

unvote; vote: Kaiveran

This actually isn't that bad a pick up. I'd say if we are going to lynch a lurker (although that looks less likely now) kaiveran would be a good choice.

@ zazier: it's risky. The two mislynch clock does make things more dangerous but I would still say wait until day two to do a full claim.